HBO's True Detective

Honestly I felt the same as you up until the last episode, which was pretty damn good. I feel like the last two episodes are going to be really good too. The first 5 episodes were so-so.

So I’m throwing this out there. This season’s introduction sequence is reminiscent of The Wire because it changes a bit while staying mostly the same. I really like ‘Nevermind’ it’s just a good listen every time. It also seems like they put Jordan (or how ever they spell her name i don’t give a shit) behind the tripod camera that looks like it was in Caspre’s 2nd apt and I don’t know what that means.

So much love/hate with Vsquared’s character for me. He goes from saying the corniest shit in the world such that /whatever4chan’stvboardis/ can write it to a really respectable character. He’s a net positive for me. He goes back and forth from being a believable gangster (lul) and the Vince Vaughn character of “a guy I want to drink with”

holy shit youre right.

yeah foreal @alphazero maybe episode 2/3 she talked about how fucked up a place that the commune was.

((that dude had the same hair/facial hair as her dad)) couldn’t have been him right? He didn’t seem that fucked up…

right?

e: jeansMcAdams>>dressMcAdams

I’ve been watching this show, but I honestly have no idea what is going on. I think when the season is over, I will go back and watch it to get some clarity.

She didn’t use *her * knife tho

yeah foreal @alphazero maybe episode 2/3 she talked about how fucked up a place that the commune was.
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Even in the shrink’s office. She was taken aback by imagery. Every ep it has been alluded or referenced. It’s like these guys arent even paying attention

This last episode was pretty much the best episode of the season because they used a different director. That’s why that first scene was fucking great, the orgy scene where we got flashbacks of Ani’s past was great, the binge scene was great, and the dialogue was fucking saved.

Pizzolato just can’t do it himself. Someone for the Week pretty much nailed it when he said Pizzolato is writing like it’s for a book with very little experience on how to put that shit on screen. This director probably looked at the script and said, “yeah okay we’re going to do this a bit different.” And you know what? It worked.

I been saying this since before the premier. The Fukunaga team up made S1.

It’s painfully apparent. A lot of what the characters say should just be internal monologue instead of actual conversation.

@Raz0r is Someone for the Week a screenwriting podcast or something?

I read the recaps from both the Week and the Atlantic. They just happen to love the same shows I do.

I DIDN’T WANT HER TO USE ANY KNIFE. MOLLY OR NOT, SHE’S MAX LVL ON KNIFE ARTS. IT TOOK AWAY FROM THE TENSION WHEN SHE GOT ONE.

honestly i wanted her to get her shit wrecked and have Velcoro save her, but i figured showrunners would be too scared to allow that. feminism & whatnot…

for real. y’all this isn’t CSI. if you don’t stop whatever else you’re doing while you’re watching, you will be left behind and it won’t be the shows fault.

Minimum System Requirements to watch True Detective:
- at least pay attention to the episodes

Maximum System Requirements to watch True Detective:

  • know something about fucked up people

we know Ani was molested in the first episode. how?

  1. @12:40 she freaked a dude out by asking something of him sexually he didn’t expect.* (**)

  2. literally 2 minutes later she busts her sister whoring (virtual, but still), and bitches her out (she accidentally witnessed her own sister’s sexual expression. it mirrors her own deviance; which upset her. at this point we can safely assume they were both molested).

  3. @30:00 we meet her father who is trying way too hard to sound based. if you pay attention to what he’s saying, his “intellectualism” is really “not-give-a-shit-about-anything-ism” anything can and will happen when a person like that is leading a community.

  4. hippie communes are NOTORIOUS for sexual deviance. i’m pretty sure that’s the only reason for them to exist.

*here’s a secret, y’all. in the bedroom, a girl’s default is “stick your penis in my vagina.” any girl you had sex with that asked for something different learned that from somewhere else (usually FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.)

**more than likely she asked him to get violent with her or tie her up. how? go watch the interaction again, but only look at the background. what do you see?

Shaft Agent, are you high? Because your theory is ridiculous.

disprove it then.

My friend who has been watching asks me what’s going on. Like… I could have told her, but I didn’t know where to start and it would have taken forever.

This is all just you thinking it. There’s no evidence here that supports her being molested at all. A woman asks a guy to do something in bed. How is that a fucking warning sign of molestation? Do you have any evidence backing this up? Or are you just going by what you believe?

Trying to prevent her sister from doing porn ALSO doesn’t prove she was molested as a kid. You could also say she didn’t want her doing porn because she feels her father was never a parent and she had to step up to the role.

Not giving a shit is not an indicator for her being molested either. Why would it be? There’s zero evidence to back up that claim.

The final point just doesn’t prove anything either. Hippie communities also exist for religious uniformity where no sexual impropriety happen. Think of that group that just went off to hide from authorities only to kill themselves and shit back in, I think, the 60s.

You’re reaching, man. Just saying.

My hometown in Virginia is home to one of the most thriving, long lasting communes in the United States. I used to date a girl in high school from there and I spent some time getting to know the folks. Very down to earth people and definitely not sexually deviant. It shows that socialistic ideals can work in small pockets when everyone there is willing to live that way and not forced.

I couldn’t live that way though. I like videogames too much.

She clearly has a complicated relationship with sexuality. You could argue (and I’d agree) that being into weird shit doesn’t mean that you were molested, BUT this isn’t real life, it’s a TV show and that scene wasn’t put in there for no reason. Also, that her sister was previously a junkie/coke head and whoring herself out (now “just” doing web porn) does point to something being wrong at home. Factor in the way she was mesmerized by that porn after Velcoro mentioned it, yeah…I think Shaft hit the nail on the head.

Last episode was fantastic. Who was the dude that she recognized in the party?

oh, there’s oodles of evidence. OODLES. i’ll try to post evidence with pics and errethang tomorrow. and a woman asking a guy to do something freaky isn’t an admission of molestation, it’s an admission of having said act done to her previously and her enjoying it.

nope. Ani tried to claim moral superiority but stfu immediately when her sister called her out on her own deviancy.

not-give-a-shittance is like an open door for CUH-RAY-ZEE stuff to walk in; not necessarily *just *molestation

“hippie communes” start out that way, but they can change if the leader is a fuccboi



bruh, i’m not even trying with that one…

oh, most definitely. but these are safe reaches. me theorizing Marty being The Yellow King in Season 1 is an unsafe reach (THAT CANNOT BE DISPROVED BECAUSE IT IS TRUE).

Secluded communes with cult leaders almost always have some weird sexual shit going on.

Guide to being a cult leader:

  1. Get rid of males that might challenge your authority
  2. Begin molesting/fucking underage girls
  3. Repeat

When the writing is bad, it’s just bad, which is evident a lot in this season, which is also why Pizzolato hired an uncredited co-writer to help him finish it.

Bezzerides w/e. You have her introduction scene where John-Boy is surprised by something she asks him to do, and then you have her tense interaction with her father, her sister works in porn. Gee whiz, think she’s got a damaged past? This is True Detective, not Kimmy Schmidt. Everyone’s damaged goods, which Pizzolato can’t help but repeatedly drive home while the plot just spins it’s wheels in place.

Her flashbacks didn’t make the molestation thing a surprise to me, I was just surprised at how badly handled the entire orgy sequence was in general. It’s like Pizzolato is trying to show off now, or desperately trying to create a sequence as memorable as Season 1’s robbery.
Hey here’s my david lynch homage in episode 3 opener, here’s crazy shootout cuz Michael Mann’s Heat was good, check this sequence out, it’s my orgy homage to Eyes Wide Shut/Kubrick…

The problem with season 2 is everything keeps dead ending, but in a way that feels like it’s treading water until we get to the conspiracy or w/e being uncovered. I doubt viewers will give much of shit it’s revealed that the Vinci power structure is corrupt and is in bed with that shady Catalyst corporation, and that the killer of Caspere and Stan(whoever the fuck that guy was) is just “some dude”.

Pizzolato almost has nowhere left to go but a surprise reveal at this point, and I’m guessing we’re about to find out he’s a big fan of the Manchurian Candidate, since there’s that 1 character that realistically has no reason to be involved in the plot at all aside for convenience, is prone to waking up in places with no memory of how he got there, self admittedly has done horrible things while working for shady private military contractor…

Sure am!