Has Udon lost the plot?

The plot.

Honestly, while the comic uses a lot of canon facts for the background of various characters, the actual PLOT of the comic is practically nothing like the canon plot, be it the plot from the games or the officially announced plot. Shadow, Blanka being controlled by Shadaloo, Delta Red Cammy meeting the Dolls, Rose being the one responsible for Cammy going to Delta Red, Sagat warning Ryu about Bison, Sakura travelling with Ryu… the thing really doesn’t resemble how the plot unravelled in the games at all.

Not that that’s necesarily a bad thing (and not that it’s necesarily a good thing, either) but people who say that the comic ‘shows how the SF plot unravelled by putting it all together’ are very VERY sorely mistaken. The actual plot of the comic is ludicrously different from how the plot unravels in the canon storyline (for one thing, in canon SFA3, Guile has to follow military orders to go after Charlie who’s gone ‘renegade’ according to the military because Bison’s actually controlling the military).

It’s using the games as a guideline. The characters all seem to be taking different paths, but they’re still headed in the same direction. It’s refreshing. I don’t want to see the same recycled crap over and over and over again.
-Cammy still got to Delta Red
-Charlie died
-Guile is still after Bison to avenge him
-Ryu is still trying to be better
-Bison is bad guy number 1

Glitcher has yet to provide anything solid behind his claims. It can all be summed up as just his opinion.

Claiming DS is going nowhere is completely ridiculous. No one knows what the fuck Darkstalkers is about, plain and simple. They have to establish the characters. Period. And there are a LOT of characters to be established.
Pyron is still there, he’s clearly the threat.
Christ, they even said they were taking a different approach and establishing the characters first.

As far as “discussion” on these forums goes; That’s a fucking laugh and a half. There’s an over 11 page thread about Dudely being black. 90% of it is just mindless flaming by random dipshits who followed other dipshits here.

I have seen little to no constructive criticism on this forum EVER. It’s always either “this sucks” or “ur gay”. I dunno where you’re getting that from.

its very true that the SF storyline is getting pointless right now. I dont know where the hell the SF plot is heading, but its going downhill for sure. Udon comics did alot of side track storylines, but most of them didnt seem to have a major point. thats why i still like the Street Fighter 2 animated movie storyline. after the ryu/ken vs. akuma fight battle, every other fights look like crap, oh well same goes for Marve and DC battles too. I cant even feel a strong character developement anymore. None of the SF cast seem to grab my attention. The storyline for SF right now is too confusing and pointless. I guess I was expecting too much from the comic, but i guess ill keep buying them for the fantistic art.

Udon should’ve just started out with the first Street Fighter cast, next SF Alpha cast, and then move on to Street Fighter 2 cast. after that, they could do any side story they want considering Street Fighter 3 can be done later, my opinion anyways.

I just want to start loving the characters again, but i find myself hating them like cammy:sad:

by the way, i havent been keeping up the Darkstalkers series, so i was just wondering, if lilith or queen bee made an appearance yet??:karate:

Look here genius.

You do relize that Capcom (of Japan) has to approve everything UDON does with the comic right? And that Cacpom really loved the SF2 anime, to the point where it inspired the Alpha series right? No, of course you didnt or you wouldnt be aurguing about this stupid stuff.

Tell that to Capcom.

And you’re seriously acting like UDON has a choice in the matter.

Oh yeah, just like in the Alpha series right?

No wait, that didnt happen in the Alpha series, even though it was a remake of the SF2 anime basicly.

This comic is combining all the BEST things from the canon, the animes, mangas, etc, etc, and thats ALOT to take in, just like there are ALOT of characters to take in with this comic.

Also do you seriously think you could do these comics better, and that people wouldnt complain about them if you did?

That wouldnt be very smart.

For one most SF fans dont even know the chars from SF1, and those who do dont like most of them, and/or would just like to forget them, like Capcom did.

Two the SF2 cast is the most famous/popular cast, so if you’re trying to sell and market a comic, starting with the SF1 cast then moving into the SFA cast would be a bad idea, since people wanna see chars like Guile show up pretty early, ie doing it that way wouldnt work well in terms of sales.

Third UDON’s contract with Capcom only lasts a short while, so they couldnt do it that way anyway.

Which reminds me, people are acting like the SF comic is going to keep on going and going like all the other major comic series out there, and its not, its only going to last up until the SF3 story arc wraps and thats it (since I guess Capcom dosnt want them going past the SF3 storyline)

So the Capcom comics arent going to keep on going and going, they’re basicly a set number, and will all have Final Issues after awhile.

What has that got to do with anything? You’re making it sound like Capcom themselves are writing the comic. The boys at Udon still control their own plot in the comics, so chill out and quit bashing. I’m just trying to make Udon realise what needs to be improved.

Aside from huge Street Fighter fans, no one would buy a comic based on the original Street Fighter. Udon made the right choice by basically starting off with Alpha.

Udoneko spoke about the contract several months ago so this doesn’t hold 100% true anymore. He said it’s been extended from the previous five years (Capcom of Japan really likes the comic in case you didn’t know) that it originally was (that’s why they’ve slowed the pacing down and are not going to jump into the SF2 tourney right away like they were going to before) and they will put out the book so long as people support it so there is an off chance they may go past SF3, but the book will really have to be selling like hot cakes at that point IMHO.

Capcom showed it by putting Udon Comics do the endings of Capcom Fighting Evolution…

They extended it from 3 years to 5 years, last I checked.

yeah got to agree with glitch the writing sucks monkey balls but to udons credit it is on par with the crappy story direction of capcoms games.

Yeah, originally I wrote 3 years in my post, edited it to 5 because it didn’t sound right to me for some reason, but your right. Happy to know someone else who remembers Udoneko’s posts. :smile:

That doesn’t mean that they coudl’ve took more time to flesh out the story more until they got to that final point. You’re really making no sense here, genius.

It have EVERYTHING to do with this.

They are in someways.

NO THEY DONT!

You obviously didnt understand what I posted.

Capcom of Japan HAS to approve EVERYTHING udon does with the SF comic, plot, chars, etc, before they can do it. Udon does NOT have total control over the the plot. If Capcom wants or dosnt want something in the comic, Udon HAS to obey them, its part of the contract.

And AGAIN you’re acting like they have a choice, when they dont. They can NOT listen to you over Capcom.

Yeah, but still as nice as that is I still dont think UDON will be taking the comic past the SF3 storyline.

You’re still off the mark, TAS, and I think you’re the one who doesn’t have a proper grasp of Udon’s situation, given your exagerrations. Getting approval from Capcom is NOT the same as writing the story. If Capcom is approving Udon’s current plot, that’s fine. But if Udon decide to improve on Ryu’s plot and Capcom still approve, where is your objection? Do you think Capcom will deny Udon refining Ryu’s side of the story? I think you need to get a grip on writer’s liberties, genius.

I think you need to go into the fan fiction forum and write a better plot yourself.

Writing a licensed property is a lot different than writing your own thing. There ARE limitations to what can be done, and clearly Capcom is pretty big on the “do’s and dont’t’s” with their stuff. You can write whatever you think is the best story in the world, but if Capcom says “no way”, then you start over. There ARE guidelines. You don’t know the writing process they have to go through, so stop acting like you do.

Udon is doing the best they can with what they can. They are trying to please ALL the fans. That includes the ones that DON’T think Ryu is the main character.
There’s more than just Ryu in Street Fighter, sorry. He’s had page time since the beginning, along with Chun Li, Cammy, Ken, even Fei Long, so I dunno why people are complaining. Not to mention he’s had the most (and by far, coolest) fights of all the characters.

We’re what, 14 issues and 2 1/2 years into a 5 year long contract?
Calm down.

Sano: likewise.

The same goes for you, you know.

Aside from udoneko, who here can tell me the exact limitations of Udon’s liberties with Capcom’s storyline? Anyone? My point is that when someone says “Udon can’t do that!”, they can’t be sure of it unless Udon try. So why bash such propositions with canon restrictions when you don’t know the extent of the restrictions?

When did the fanboyism reach such pathetic limits here? We are allowed to make constructive criticism, Udon makes their money through sales, sales comes from us that means they work for us aswell as Capcom and Capcom also works for us. Therefore any issues should be freely discussed in this forum without being bitched on.

And you, just like the rest of us, don’t know what Capcom would or wouldn’t approve of. As Tiamat pointed out Udon’s plot is already much different than the true canon. Why are people getting so worked up over 1 user’s opinion anyway? Grow the fuck up and let’s have an intelligent discussion/debate.

I hate the comic. It has almost nothing of the real storyline. Don’t get me wrong it’s ok but IMO it sucks…