Iron Fist: No zoning, very short time for OTG, and (S) launcher can not hit airbourne enemies, no double jump, or air dash.
Phoniex Wright: Shitty dash/wave dash, not very damaging combos, MUST master good timing for his “damaging” combos. But DAT Maya Sheild
Iron Man: Combos are hard to pull off
Rocket Raccoon: Hard to do air combos, land combos and, low health
Spider-Man: Hard to pull off combos, not very damaging hypers
Magneto: I can never cancel, do damaging combos with him
Strider: Glass cannon, (need I say more)
and more… but those are the characters I stay away from the most… Deadpool, Viper, MODOK, and maybe X-23, I can only do one B&B with her.
You couldn’t be more wrong-its one of the best things about him. The shield protects from ALL sides, so standing in the middle of it grants near complete invulnerability. Most PW players aren’t perfecting/havent realized this yet, but thats simply because there aren’t alot of them. Add this to sentinel drones/missles/AA hulk backing him up, and your only option is to grab phoenix or try to derp around the shield (Missles, Fair/foul wind, certain hypers, ect.).
If you grab him while he’s looking for evidence (he usually is when the shield is out), then perfect, you got through the shield. Hopefully the drones/missles wont stop you after. If, however, you mess up the input for the grab and get an attack instead, OR if he simply JUMPS-you’re fucked.
yea one of the best things for the worse character (its still nothing special)
well it appears in theory that but hulk anti air is like a more risky lariet because if you block it you can easily combo him and since he’s an assist its an easy kill.
Also your tactics seem to only work in lag not if playing offline (which I hate to say)
Well I hate to tell you this but at Arcade UFO in Austin (Good scene, Fanatiq was there not even a month ago, NerdJosh, Mamespider, Mihe, Jan, Ect. play regularly)theres a PW player by the name of “Poltergus” (spelling?), and he consistantly woops ass every other week at Ranbat With his PW/AA Hulk/Missles team. He usually places top 3, and you can’t argue with results(which I love to say). Your lack of character knowledge and then refutation of that knowledge when its presented to you is very strange… I’m just telling you what I see consistantly every week with good players. Have you ever even played a good Phoenix Wright?
I also never argued that he was a good character, but when you consider the tools PW has, YES, THE SHIELD IS VERY “SPECIAL”. And I don’t even touch the complete garbage called “online” since I have a local scene, so I wouldnt even begin to understand what works well and what doesn’t. Also, Hulk’s AA works much better than Haggar lariat in certain matchups (Against magneto, for example, who destroys haggar assist with spammed Cr. L)
Sorry if I come off as salty. Im just a bit irked by your response.
I actually have faced that guy online and hes a cool guy but one guy doesn’t change the fact phoenix pretty much sucks its like saying RR top tier because of final round and the 200k thing he mentioned I think he means the damage the shield can take which I know is unscaled so a plasma beam can take it out in nearly one shot.
Shuma is the hardest character by far. Charge dashing is fucking infuriating. Also to connect mystic stare to myatic ray right after each other you basically have to hold down back then recenter the stick during the opening attack frame of mystic stare then hold down in order to partition the charge for mystic ray. If you miss the opening frame timing then youll drop the combo.
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you’re gonna need to convince me a lot more than just saying “lol x-23”
I’ve been playing the character since day 1 vanilla, and without a proper team to support her she can be a struggle to learn. Her feint combos require execution, and she doesn’t have the idiotic hitboxes some of these other characters do.
what your saying mash forward H repeated is easy
no but seriously a lot of ammi’s say she has hard combos but just do the mash H combo
so do not believe them!
I slyly think Ammy’s quite a hard character to use effectively. I’m generally inclined to try the more challenging combos with a character (ignore the fact I use Cap), so I’m more interested in her advanced combos. I also like the use of her stance shifting, but when you could just do abc-HHHH-S as the majority do, there’s no need to really mention her in this discussion unfortunately.
