the command grab
there’s no point to rc’ing it you need perfect timing everytime to get it.
cause the motion for it is :hcb:, :r: + p
if you do :hcb:, roll, :r: + p, the game will only read :hcb: + roll = the running grab, not rc’ed.
if you do :r::df::d::db:, roll, :l:, :r: + p, you’ll still get the running grab, not rc’ed, since the game reads it as the “shortcut” version of :hcb: (you actually never have to do the full motion to do a :hcb:)
the only way you can do it is: :r::df::d:, roll, :db::l:, :r: punch. since you only have 3 frames to cancel the roll, and one input per frame, you need to complete the :db::l::r: motion in 3 frames, meaning you need PERFECT timing with no room for error.
the :r::df::d::db::l::r: + :p: command grab is really hard to RC cause apparently it gets mixed up with the :r::df::d::db::l: + :k: move and that move will come out when you input the roll. So instead of getting the RC command grab, you’ll get non-RC rush move thingy which will likely get blocked and then you’ll get smoked so hard your momma will cry. So I wouldn’t really bother.
I wouldn’t really bother RCing :r::df::d::db::l: + :k: either cause even if blocked, well…see above.
Stick to the RC Rekkas. :woot: <-don’t think I’ve seen this smiley before.
EDIT: Shit, noodleman beat me too it. Its cause he uses RC Blanka I think… :crybaby:
EDIT2: Learning RCs is a good idea. Obsessing over RCing is a BAD idea…
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Indeed.
I have so much I want to say regarding the ST characters…but I will only say this:
Guile’s super is one of the worst in the game (compared w/ the other ST supers in the game).
If he had the Sonic Hurricane, shit, it’ll all be over.
His c.hk (like in all the other games) is the worst, also. Especially when the game moves so fast and all the other characters’ normals are sooooo good.
Then you see Guile’s c.hk and you’ll be, like, “…ew…”
It actually can be used in some ways such as a wakeup and can be combo’d into though that takes a ton of practice. It isn’t one of the best supers like Ryu’s Shinkuu or Balrogs rush though.
Honda’s is the worst though. Unless its done a certain way, you can block the first hit of Honda’s headbutt then reversal DP/flash kick/super the second hit. Honda has other things to use though like stored ochio grabs which are cheap as hell and shut down any tick throw games if used properly.
Read NKI’s thread in Fighting Game Discussion. He’s in Japan playing ST/AE and he’s got as much info on the way the game is played as you could ever want.
EDIT: Sorry, just to add…Honda’s super can hit even and he can still get reversed on the second hit. So yeah, worst super for sure.
Actually in ST his super is good if u manage to get in on the opponent…and if you get a chance to do a cross up then right after it do d.lk, d.lk xx super = 90%+ damage
i’m not a big guile fan anymore so i’m not sure of any other tricks to make his super useful
vince>>GGs…didn’t mean to go all out like that…but it was still fun…and yes…I BROKE BLEACH :woot:
honda’s super = ass
blanka’s super = ass
sagat’s super = ass
guile’s super does SO much damage…great for wake up super.
i find it hard to see how honda’s super does 90% damage when it can be interrupted mid combo.
Rey was saying Guile’s does 90% in combo. I don’t think anyone said Honda’s did. 
Oh yeah, Blanka’s sucks too. Probably a good thing considering his meter builds up with the beast hop at a disgusting rate.
Sagat’s is a bit better than Blanka’s and Honda’s but its not that great either. Usually not much point to the super though since the better choice is to fuck the super, use O. Sagat and Tiger till the cows come home. 
:nunchuck:
EDIT: Nam, if you ever have somebody random super you with Honda, you can use Guile’s super to counter the second hit if you want. There you go, a great use for Guile’s super. :bgrin:
Honda’s super isn’t bad people. Its his best way of getting in against fireballs. Him trading a super hit with an uppercut on reversal is MORE than worth the amount that he gets in with it. He pretty much needs it. And if somebody jumps, his super hurts a lot.
BTW… just in case you didn’t notice, his super is used to travel through fireballs, not for actually hurting people 
lol. gerjay’s right about honda’s super except for one thing. if the character’s got a good reversal (rog, shotos, guile) those guys can reversal honda super for a clean hit. Unless the other guy fucks up honda can’t even trade using the super.
And wakeup supers are never a good use, in any game.
Here’s an actual good use for guile super:
crossup short, low short x 2, super
This is a kara cancel combo. And it does sick damage.
Anyone who can land that or Ken’s kara super combo consistently in a real match is a true combo machine.
Honestly, those combos are tough guys. Sure c.lk, c.lk, super with ken seems easy, its unusually hard. Simply because you don’t actually combo from the c.lk into the super. You gotta combo the c.lk into another c.lk which you cancel before coming out into a super. . . And think of doing that with guiles super that Kevin just put up. I wanna see hamilton doing that stuff
Hey Nam,
Even though we’ve had shit between us before (maybe cuz i talk to much shit for fun) it’s time we got a good HSF2:AE scene going here. So if your down, i’m gonna get together a HSF2:AE casual. Oh and everyone else, LAN PARTY on May 27th 
RXS
Gerjay wuts going on with ECC?
I can do Ken’s kara cancel. I do agree though it is tough to get out in an actual match and I haven’t gotten the chance yet but it is possible.
I’ll try and practice Guiles. I think Rey can already do it though. :wonder: :nunchuck:
I want to be a TRUE combo machine. :rock: :lol:
EDIT: By the way, looks like Shopper’s World tourney is canceled.
http://howardarena.sakura.ne.jp/
Hey Darko, some MOTW vids you might want to take a look at even if the Shopper’s tourney isn’t happening.
Well pretty much if you’re going I want to talk to you after like… next thursday. I want my exams to be over before I worry about this.
But yeah, still, talk to me through PM’s if you want help arranging stuff.
who from hamilton is actually plannin on going to ecc
I’m sorta planning on it but can’t commit to it yet cause of other things that might come up…
Can I get a tentative spot Darko and I’ll let you know the instant I know if I can make it or not so you can open up a seat for someone else?
I wanna go to ECC. Here’s the deal. I don’t like planning shit. I’ll drive my car is kinda (and by kinda i mean a big) shitbox. So if someone wants to plan this shit then fine otherwise don’t expect me to do shit. I’m pretty dam lazy. If i drive i really don’t wanna put more then 4 people in my car. My struts are dead and don’t wanna put 5 people in there.
Edit: I am looking into a new car so that my actually fix my situation.
when we went last year we just grabbed a room at the motel down the street, unless justin booked it in advance, ill try and get u guys some info cause im tryin to get down there also