Guitar and Bassist thread

Just swinging by to say thanks on the tips fellas. Reforming the chord while lifting my hand from the fretboard (or shaking out my hand) has really improved me being able to form the chords without thinking.

My band is playing a show on Friday and our bass player will be out of the country. Therefore I am assuming his duties for this show.

I am a novice bassist at best and this will be the first time Iā€™ve ever played bass in front of an audience, covering for a musician who is substantially better at this instrument than I am and attempting to wing my way through parts that are beyond my skill level. Lord, beer me strength.

While not really the same, I recently started learning to play the ukulele. Anyone in here play? I was wondering what kinds of things I should focus on in the beginning, or if anyone has any sort of advice. Iā€™m pretty new to music in general, so any advice is appreciated.

Was just reading through this thread again and I have another tip for playing exotic leads the cheapo way. If youā€™re playing leads in the minor pentatonic scale and you want to introduce more tension (or cop more of a sense of ā€œoutsideā€ notes like jazz players do), try dropping the root note and its octaves down a half-step. For example, if youā€™re in E minor, all instances of the E natural should be replaced by E flat.

Like my previous tip, it wonā€™t work in every context, but play around with it. And once youā€™ve introduced that sense of tension, you can resolve it by reverting back to the standard minor pentatonic scale.

Flash fact: this will work better over simpler backing partsā€“i.e. fewer chords with fewer degrees, so that the modified notes have less of a chance of conflicting unpleasantly with the established harmony.

Playing diminished stuff works great for ā€œoutsideā€ playing too. Doesnā€™t really matter if it sounds nasty, because thatā€™s the point of it-- just as long as you land right back into the correct notes and donā€™t get lost in the progression, you should be fine. Iā€™ve been working on this kind of stuff recently since Greg Howe does it a lot, especially in his ā€œExtractionā€ album. Canā€™t name a song off the top of my head where he DOESNā€™T play outside.

Oh, and Daniele Gottardo is a fucking monster.

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Yo @kaz, youā€™re the other guy here that plays 6-string bass, right?

Do much slap playing, because id like to bounce a few questions off you?

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This forum is fucking awesome! Read the entire page and really appreciate the practice tips for beginners like me. Iā€™ve been meaning to master my martin acoustic guitar; its the most expensive item I bought so far for a hobby. I spend way too much time in yt watching acoustic versions of my favorite songs.

So, letā€™s discuss slap bass:

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IT HURTS SO GOOD!

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Go ahead, shoot! Yeah, I do play 6 string, although I parted ways with it (some guy bought it from me). Planning on getting another soon. Rollinā€™ with my Fender Jazz bass at the moment.

Awesome man,

Well, Iā€™ve discovered that Iā€™m not doing terrible with slap anymore, but Iā€™m discovering this on a 4-string in Korea. I think itā€™s possible the spacing on the strings on my 6-string isnā€™t so conducive to accuracy on playing slap.

But letā€™s get on with the questions:

Any ideas on improving accuracy, especially when you get down to the D and G strings? I find my hand brushing up against A and E and causing a buzz on those strings as I strike anything higher pitched. Is it a matter of muting the E and A on my left hand?

Is slapping and instantly lifting off the fret an acceptable replacement to actual pops? Iā€™m having troubles getting my fingers under the strings for pops.

Triplets: whatā€™s the best method? Right now Iā€™ve been slapping with my thumb, then recoiling so my pinky slaps, but itā€™s a little inconsistent right now.

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What is the string spacing on your 6 string? Most of the smaller spacing for 6 strings usually is around 16mm, my old Carvin was 16.25mm; either way itā€™s pretty tight. It can work, but it really depends on your technique more than anything. Iā€™m going to get a new 6 string with at least 17mm spacing, 18mm is probably optimal.

But as far as accuracy goes, take a look into the gauge of strings youā€™re using - sometimes I find using a thicker gauge helps with the smaller strings. Itā€™s an adjustment at first as it will require more strength from your hands/forearms but worth the payoff.

Try these also if you can.

Part of the challenge of slapping/popping on the higher strings is keeping the other strings as quiet as possible. Some of it is using your fretting hand, the other to some degree is technique of the right hand. You donā€™t have a lot of room for error with your right hand so the smaller range of motion you have the better. Donā€™t worry about force to make volume, just turn up your amp to compensate.

Also, play major scale exercises on the higher strings just by thumb slapping the note.

What do you mean by, ā€œIs slapping and instantly lifting off the fret an acceptable replacement to actual pops?ā€

Triplets? Thereā€™s multiple ways. You can try three quick thumb up/down strikes in succession, string pop upward > thumb strike down > left fretting hand muted note strike down, or do the Victor Wooten technique - thumb strike down> thumb string upward > index finger pop.

Iā€™ll have to record a video and post it.

@kaz question. How do you hit thatā€¦one note (you know) in portrait of tracy? do you do the 4 fret stretch or the o other way that I completely forgot how to do?

Are you talking about that chord with overtone note at :19 seconds or :30 seconds in? Itā€™s been a minute since Iā€™ve listened to that song or tried to play it.

I vaguely remember seeing a video where Jaco played part of that doing a 4 fret stretch with a harmonic on the G string - I think the vide is called Modern Electric bass or something, itā€™s on youtube. Itā€™s the one where Jerry Jemmott interviews him the entire time.

Man, I donā€™t even know how to describe it, heh. The harmonic that plays right as the clock flips to 0:10 here

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Jaco played it by fretting 2 on the A string and hitting the harmonic at 6. Thereā€™s another way to hit that note that I donā€™t remember at all. the 0:19 part is easy and 0:30 isnā€™t particularly challenging.

The part you vaguely remember is probably the last chord, which is also hella hard to play cleanly because itā€™s a 3 string 4 fret barre harmonic.

Actually, I just found the part youā€™re talking about right here.

^ Yeah thatā€™s exactly what I was talking about. Iā€™m not really sure of any other ways people play that song.

Been spending more time learning Teen Town thoughā€¦

This man and his band are gods. He plays an 8 string so beautifully.
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deal with it, nerdm0urning

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Fuck is that yours?

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Well yeah but I was asking if that was a picture of YOUR guitar lol