Yeah, I’m also curious if there’s a comprehensive frame data list out there yet for Guile in SSFIV (aside from the Prima stuff, which has inaccuracies so I’m not very trusting of it).
It might have been a meaty hit. That would let you link the two strongs without the first being a counter hit.
Wow, that would be something. From everything I’ve read, meaty attacks very difficult to do in this game compared to past games. I’ve never really looked into trying to purposefully add them to my game, but if that would indeed allow me to land that combo sans a counter hit, that explains it. At least I’m not crazy.
abel, balrog, dhalsim are the only people ive done it too. i think it works against bison but i forget. Im sure it works on lots of big n tall characters but i havent tested it.
if you ever crumple sim in the corner:
UDK > s.hp > jab boom > high kick > fk raaaaaaaape
- Recovery is lower, but frame data hasn’t been collected yet.
- As stated a little later (fushishi), likely it was a meaty. Hit the lab with Guile vs. Boxer, record Boxer doing a tap or rp from mid-screen, and try c.mp c.mp xx fk.
I haven’t heard anything; last time there was a mook which Gilley painstakingly translated (with some assistance from maybe Ken I?) - hopefully we get something similar soon.
Who put that udk combo list together? Can they be arsed putting a new one together for mid-screen and corner setups which incorporate the ghk?
It might take me a week or so but yeah I’ll do it.
some data seems off Gilley, charge times stand out the most, SB is 50 frame charge now isn’t it? I’m assuming you only updated the frame data and not move properties etc.
I used to not post because of people like you. But I grew a pair and realized you guys won’t go away either and you’re always gonna be bad.
Its great that these “clowns” aren’t posting in the main threads isn’t it? I also find it amazing you two are finding a way to bitch about a forum section when both of you are garbage and have accomplished nothing. It’s douche bags like you that turn people off to this website. If a bad player asks a question, answer it. They’ll be better than you two in a few days anyways.
And if you wanna talk about shitty, THEY DONT USE SPRITE MODELS ANYMORE.
Sonic BOOM… Outta here
Admittedly, I’ve only been on this forum since SFIV, but I saw the wave of clowns come in with console release, fuck the place up, and then leave. Some great posters were in this wave and are still active today. When the PS3 slim came out another wave (albeit smaller) of clowns hit, fucked up the place, and left. The effects SSFIV’s release aren’t at all surprising.
- We don’t need a fucking thread for every single mindless little question that pops into some tourists mind. It’s not a big ask.
- A new forum-goer might think they’re a badass, but they should do some reading in the thread history to get some perspective before opening their mouth. Fuck knows I’ve stuck my foot in mine a good few times, but at least I try.
- You just said you stopped posting and to be honest I thought you’d dropped Guile it’s been that long, but then go on to say that I haven’t contributed anything (and in the same breath, Wahahk) - check your facts. Obviously you’ve contributed much less than we have as we’ve been posting, discussing, and helping while you lurked.
- If me posting something like that hurt your feelings, maybe it’s time for you to go back to AOL circa 1995.
Now, chip in and help or fuck off.
Edit: oh, and because I’m feeling juvenile, note the double-quotations around “large sprite” in my post - ask someone who speaks English what that means.
I don’t know about syngin because I’ve never seen him play and he is from Australia, but Warahk is in no way garbage. One of the best Guiles on the west coast.
They’ve always been possible, they were just a bad idea in SF4 because the easy invincible reversals meant you risked eating a SRK -> FADC ultra in exchange for a small damage reward. You can still do them safely in vanilla SF4, but the timing was very strict and you have a limited selction (I think Guile’s only safe wakeup meaty option is c.lp) In SSF4 DPs lost some of their startup invincibility, so most non-EX moves will lose to a properly timed meaty. You still need to watch out for EX SRKs and the like (and supers/ultras, but throwing out ultra on wakeup is a bad idea for obvious reasons).
I can’t say I’m noticing any difference with wake-up meaty c.mp which is my go-to meaty (occasionally c.lk) - what are ya’ll using and does it feel different?
A quick aside to you and the others who may feel the same: I think you’re looking at this the wrong way.
Million of people play this game; it is inevitable that some of them are going to flock to the biggest SF site on the internet. And while people are bound to do things like lazily create redundant threads - unless you create a secret, pros-only forum… welcome to message boards, I mean, no surprise there. So it goes.
Your (and others) biggest gripe seems to be the spread of misinformation. The best thing you can do now is be a MORE active member here and correct everyone where you can. The leaders over at the Gouken forum are doing just that, despite the rampant amount of wrong info being constantly posted there. With power comes responsibility, and knowledge is certainly power in this game. I can say with that confidence that everyone is probably here for the exact same reason I am - to ask questions, learn tactics and discuss options. We are not here trying to annoy you or maliciously clog the forums.
Might I even suggest possibly creating a FAQ/guide that we can sticky? Right away, that would cut down on a lot of garbage. In other communities where I found that I was one of the most knowledgeable people on the forums, I used my lunch breaks for a week to write guides that would answer questions for new players before they even thought to ask them.
Again, I think you’re looking at this the wrong way. This is an opportunity for you to step up as a community leader and gain the respect of the new players through being patient and helpful. Be someone we can look up to instead of someone we’re hesitant to ask.
My two cents.
im really sorry we missed out on your bellow average intelligence input in vanilla.
feel free to money match me at evo if you wish to donate to my tuition dumb fuck. change characters, post smarter posts, or gtfo of my forum.
Well put and if I’m that hard on the fish, one of the older crew can PM me (or interject during a thread) and I’ll ease up.
However, although you made your point clearly and I understand your position, let me more clearly state mine. I may be hard on new-comers or those who provide obviously poor advice (or in some cases, outright lies), but any post in these threads which is neither a question nor chatter is detailed, accurate, and often-times well established Guile lore. We are all of us, that is, the regular posters, specialists in various aspects of Guile’s game and during the course of our discussions have shaped a fairly serious training camp for people who want to take Guile seriously. It is my contention that not suffering fools in the forum contributes to this outcome.
I am also well known as a grump.
As stated earlier: I can ease up if required, but don’t blame me if the tourists hang around for longer than normal
syngin, don’t you change a fucking thing. :bgrin:
That’s all fine. Believe it or not, I know a lot about the personalities of the regulars around here after having read every single post of the pre-release Guile thread, as you were all fairly active in it.
This is not my first fighter, nor is it my first fighting game message board, so I’m well aware of the tribulations one runs into when fools are flooding the forums with garbage while you and other players are trying to have real discussions and level up.
I’m only coming at it from this perspective because here, for the first time in a long time, I am one of the moderately informed who is looking to become fully informed. While I know which names to trust for the most part, its hard to read as much as I do here without taking other posts into consideration as well. It would just definitely be more helpful to see wrong information corrected rather than have the pros either withdraw (no correction) or just drop some sarcastic remark (shows that the post is wrong, but doesnt help me learn the right answer).
Again, my two cents. I have no problem with any of you. As Billy Madison once said, “I’m here to learn, people!”
Troll. Attacking some of the most helpful and active members of Guile forums? What a dummy.
warahk and gilley are 90% of the reason why i read the guile forums. I know I never contribute with anything useful in-game, but I can be damn sure to take the time to thank the pro’s who can and do… and to support them when obnoxious waste-of-space trolls like songo start crapping in every single thread they can find
so yeah, please don’t stop posting warahk, i’m sure it seems useless to you when so many douches are posting, but some of us actually come here to see what you and other posters like you have to say
songo, please stop posting unless its a legit question or contribution