Mostly confirmed except for two things:
"- Back throw to Shin Shoryu no damage reduction"
seems more like “- Back throw to Shin Shoryu doesn’t do much damage”, this is usually how they say it if they see 50~150 damage reduction in a move
"- Seems like EX palm combo can force opponent to corner at once…"
they were talking about how j.MP -> MK air Tatsu can push opponents and will land before the opponent wakes up (applies to the last line you translated), so with EX Palm FADC j.MP -> MK air Tatsu Gouken can force opponent into the corner in a flash.
Does that move special cancel now? And on hit does it link with cr. mp, cr. lk, or cr. roundhouse?
There’s gonna be a lot of st. mp spamming going on, so we will be seeing it A LOT, and depending on what they’ve done with it will determine whether we will be able to combo, vortex, or continue frame trap/baiting as we do now.
Also with the added frame advantage on cl. st. hk. Is it possible to st. cl. hk > FADC into combo now???
Diago saying that projectile are more or less the weaker ones in AE. U guys think Gouken fits in that bracket seeing how he didnt mention Gouken, think he has a good chance against the rest of the cast?
An for some reason Gouken seems to be the forgotten warrior bec his buffs are to good to be true an the buff are there so is he by chance better than ryu, akuma in AE?
Interesting interview Daigo gave. He talks about all the projectile characters being nerfed except DJ, but he completely omits any mention of Gouken.
He also mentions Yun being really good and only Zangief giving Yun problems. However it seems like Gouken has the tools to beat Yun. I really can’t wait to get my hands on AE Gouken.
Has it been confirmed or dis-confirmed that he can now combo lp palm after 2 jabs?
I don’t think there was a rumour that LP Palm can be comboed from 2 jabs, at least I never saw a source for it. jab -> close st.MK -> LP Palm should be possible since st.MK moves you forward a lot.
Honestly I don’t see jab being used for hit confirms very much. With MP being +6 on hit and MK being changed to a 3 frame start up, I see MK as being the new up close poke. Of course I don’t have the game in front of me, so I don’t know, but that’s just how it seems to me.
A lot of people I’ve spoken with made the mistake thinking that LP Palm being cancellable from Jabs suddenly meant he had a combo now. They apparently didn’t know Tatsu already cancels from it and the reason it lacks a hit confirm is because we only chain jabs.
Well tatsu doesn’t hit crouching characters so it’s not exactly true that you could combo off jabs with Gouken even if you could have linked them in SSF4.
i want information on demon flip parry as well as jump BACK medium punch xx tatsu, that one is gonna be a MEAN gimme some space depending on how that works… maybe some strange jump back mp xx EX tatsu chasing going on too for a bizare follow up…
i dunno i just want all the information in the worlddddddd
So I went to FFA this evening to play AE. The line was retarded long to play it. I was there 3 hours and only got to play it 3x, once with Guile and twice with Gouken. I really didn’t get to try much at all cause people were playing pretty hardcore. My first impressions…
-Gouken’s normals definately feel better
-Jab palm doesn’t move anywhere now, and it starts up really quick. I was able to do j.fierce > c.strong > jab palm really easy
-Someone wiffed a DP and I tried to punish with c.fierce > jab palm. This combo doesn’t work anymore, they get pushed way too far away from the c.fierce for this to work now(jab palm doesn’t move forward).
-close s.forward kick starts up super fast now, definately 3f like was previously discussed. I’m gonna have to work it into my throw tech OS game.
-counter move with jab does the low counter. If you currently use jab to do all your high counters, get that shit out of your muscle memory now. I kept doing low counters to akuma air FB and paying for it.
-backthrow > u1 doesn’t do any gray damage like what was theorized(Gen). It looked like it did less damage than before.
-I could definately feel the improvment on his close s.strong. I missed the c.fierce link though.
-I did a cool thing with jab palm. I did a standard c.jab > c.jab > c.jab > c.short to push my opponent back to their c.rh range and waited for them to do a c.rh. I did jab palm and countered them right out of it. You can wiff jab palm at this c.rh range really well since it doesnt move anywhere now. This is similar to the palm stuff you’ve been seeing with Yun.
-I could feel the demon flip+p recovered faster, although I didn’t use it near my opponent.
-EX HK sucked my opponent in really well and they took all the hits.
Anyways, I didn’t get to try much but I’ll be going there tomorrow. I really want to try out some link combos. Hopefully the line wont be too long.
ultradavid Ultra #SSF4AE Gouken: Sanchez had sick combos! Corner cl mp, cr hp xx ex palm, hp fb, jump mp xx air tatsu. Air to air jump mp xx tatsu nice too
ultradavid Ultra #SSF4AE Gouken: lp palm so good! Fast startup, great hitbox, safe on block. Awesome counterhit in blockstring destroys crouch tech & mashers
im a bit worried about hit confirms lps into lp palm, i already took that for granted the blog said: In specials, Light Punch Running Palm (Senkugoshoha) has been drastically changed, so it will connect from weak attacks (Light Punch/Light Kick).
It sounds to me that it should work, but PLEASE someone confirm this!
About daigo interview and shoto nerfs, Gouken isnt mentioned there and he has changed so much that i doubt anyone can say if hes better or worse than the other shotos, in any case since makoto is my alt and he says she’s good now I’ll do fine with shoto bad matchups. Besides if yun and yang are so good now im sure they will be nerfed by the console dlc release.
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wow just found this, and i was about to go to bed now iam wide awake lol Gouken gameplay at 6:20 i didnt even watch it yet lol. So far iam liken what i hear about his LP palm
ok just wacth it and i swear his ex demon looks speed the fuck up, niggaz moving like shin gouken i swear to god lol.
Oh the DF into st HP lp senku, is at 7:20, shit quick as fuck. iam tired so it must be my eyes but his FB, looks faster than sagt TS lol wtf…Gouken i gonan be beast yall can take breath now . Finally we can have a broke, dumb char lol with stuff to abuse hahaha good nite
the blog said: In specials, Light Punch Running Palm (Senkugoshoha) has been drastically changed, so it will connect from weak attacks (Light Punch/Light Kick).