…S, SJ, Palm xx Flame, j.S, land, DoD M xx SoV > Round Harvest. To my knowledge only the first repetition of Palm xx Flame will give you enough time to link a j.S. The raw tag extension afterwards is a bit tricky if you’re not used to it. Make sure you’re almost directly under the opponent when going for the knockdown so that j.S doesn’t whiff.
For double SoV, while grounded, Palm (call Doom) xx Flame, Palm xx Flame (or Mystic Sword M/H) xx SoV is all you need to do. Then just a bit after the Missiles hit, SoV again.
Yeah, I’ll just stick with the double SoV if I have Missiles ready for now. As for the Round Harvest Raw Tag extensions, I’ll just wait for your videos so I can actually see what I need to do.
I really like your team. I switch between using Doom and Hawkeye instead of Dante but I would some day like to use him, I just don’t have the patience now. You are really good at backwards wave dash which I definitely need to work on, I just tridash backwards.
I have found that box jump S + gun shot or your longer range assist is pretty good too. I like air H too since you can cancel to stiletto kick but it feels easier to get thrown out of than S even though it probably isn’t factually true. I just got wrecked by two Zero players yesterday and am really unsure of the match up now, so I am definitely going to watch what you did there.
Are you going to NEC? I think I should be there, I’d like to pick your brain if possible
Finally got a HD PVR, so I decided to record some ranked matches to test it out. I like the synergy with Trish/Nova/Vergil, but I think I need to swith Vergil with Sentinel, Doom, or someone else that can help Trish stay safe in the air. Suggestions?
22 seconds in and I notice you have a horrible Trish habit and thats to fly up/back and start trolling with traps. 1-that only works at regular/doublt jump height, unless you have doom missiles.
The fact of the matter is Trish cant convert any of that to big damage, and against a teleport character or Strider assist Trish would have been dead in a matter of seconds. You place traps to cut off their movement on screen, and you convert all peekaboo traps into 500k damage AT LEAST. Otherwise you’re wasting time, you can run the clock for half the match, and it wont mean much the second Magneto or Nova or Spencer or Wesker or Viper or Doom or Vergil…etc etc hit you and they have more than 1 bar stocked.
Keep that in mind.
Also, you were divekicking in on Haggar. Dont do that.
And, standing inside of a trap makes Trish invincible. So you should have just laid the trap and waited for Haggar to pipe into it.
Trish/Nova/Drones is actually quite strong. That was my go-to team for a long time. Trish’s Rushdown turns insane with Drones and you can set up unblockables with Sent if you have Nova’s overhead assist. And if Trish dies, Nova/Sent is a pretty strong duo - he wont be able to do his spencer insane things but he still hits like a truck and all the DHCs work extremely well. I like it a lot more than Vergil… However, you have to get used to losing with Sent.
After power up just go retarded. You have a slower version of tatsu assist, only it’s invincible. So its like a moving version of Haggar lariat. Call assist, ask questions later. So you can go for tridash 50/50 overhead/low mixups. Or just randomly call it out to stop assist or force them to blow meter to deal with hsienko.
Sent has great anchor potential, as does the other two. HSF/ access to a counter cross incoming hard drive/ flight mode & quick cancel.
Ammy has a heavy DHC which fills full screen which can lead to team special mixups/ access to counters and a lock down assist. Can slow down opponents for custom combos/ long hyper taking about 4 seconds I believe.
Trish seems like the perfect battery for both. Both don’t require lots and lots of hyper since sentinal gains enough meter off his regular bnb or from a hit confirm to gain 1.x meter% and Ammy gains meter off anything especially being that all of her hits literally sync for about 25% of her meter.
Only meter hungry gyal on the team is Trish since I recall her harvest being not only her GOTO special when trying to mix up but for safe switches and a great incoming dhc. Even better since it just wrecks most hypers.
2 have access to fly/ 2 have access to air dash (1 unlimited air dash) / 2 full screen hyper (Ammy), 1 free roam hyper (Trish) and 2 hypers that are full ground or full air (HD & Mavimum Volt)/ all can rush on ground and two have counters (Ammy / Trish)/ 2 have fast air moves at hit and drop them down faster and safer then s would.
I’m really considering keeping this as my main team. Fuck the tier list. I know is team has potential I just want to hear what could be my optimal coverage for Trish in tight situations. At the moment it’s either
Ammy / Trish / sent
Trish/ sent / Ammy
Or Trish/ Ammy / sent
The only person I can think of off the top of my head to check out vids of Team DMC would be Kbrad. Though I don’t know where to even look for recent stuff outside of checking Xanadu’s stream archive from about 2 weeks ago. I dunno if he got on stream at SCR or Apex.
For general tech, just put that team into the youtube search engine. I have a lot of vids for those characters in my playlists: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL65CE7C36F6D58579 That should help shorten your search. Dante/Trish and Dante/Vergil both work well as duos, which makes the team work, along with Jam Session’s great utility. Vergil and Trish have somethings that work for them, but the best thing is probably that Vergil after Trish is a ToD with swords DHC. Rapid Slash is also a good neutral assist with any zoning character, since it bops moves with projectile invincibility and pushes the opponent into the corner.
That said, I’m basing all of my learning in this game around Trish teams(unless they pick Strider, in which case I’m bringing out Logan/IronMan/Vergil).
The characters I either know or am learning are Nova, Wesker, Vergil, Dante and Dr. Strange. This gives me:
Trish/Nova/Dr.Strange
Dante/Trish/Strange(which works with Trish in front as well, but if you start with Dante you get more ToD opportunities. Trish in front w/Jam Session and Bolts is great fun.)
Team DMC
Trish/Dante/Wesker aka Team Jago
People have gone away from Team Jago, but I still think that’s a really strong team. I have to test it more against better competition, but this team has some serious benefits. The unblockable is nice. Weasel Shot is amazing for Trish and Wesker and this team works in almost any order(Dante/Wesker/Trish is kinda “meh” but not worthless). Trish’s Low Voltage assist is regarded as weak, but characters as mobile as Dante and Wesker really benefit from it. Because of the delay, that thing comes out of nowhere from off screen if you call it properly. Some block strings from Dante are really ambiguous with a Trish call(e.g. L+assist, M, H teleportxxhammer–Trish assist pushes them into kind of a cross up and you still have the option to air dash for further mixup). In front, Wesker does pretty good damage with both assists.
As an aside, I don’t know how to properly use Jam Session with Trish outside of the neutral game. Not sure how to properly confirm with it because of the way it pops them back.
Lastly, KBrad has been stepping up his game in Marvel, and with his Trish. He was very strong at Apex and you can see footage of him in Bum’s archives on Twitch. I think Yipes said he stopped by to train at Yipes’ house. I was there when he was at Bum’s before Curleh. His Trish has already gotten a lot better since then. His triangle dash crossups are hitting every time, lol.
How would you guys say Trish is meant to be played? Like are unblockables a must, what assists are good for her, etc.? I’ve been in character crisis mode forever and am thinking of picking up Trish, but I’m clueless to her playstyle.
EDIT: I plan on playing Trish (Peekaboo)/Dormammu (dark hole)/Hawkeye (OTG) if that helps.
Similar proposition as the post a few above, but how does Trish/Strange/Dante fare? How does trish take advantage off of bolts and jam session? How do I use them for setups, my nuetral, and even combos? Lao Amy thoughts wether this team is “better” than Trish/Nova/Strange or Nova/Trish/Strange?
I don’t think those three teams are a matter of better/worse so much as matchups. They can both set up Faltene loops equally well. Worth noting that Trish/Nova/Strange can set up unblockables w/ Round Harvest raw tag Strange low H call Centurion Rush. TAC is also extremely strong with that team. With any assist that covers the screen for a long time(Jam Session, Missles, Drones, Bolts, etc) I think the biggest advantage is that Trish can fly around, call the assist while the opponent can’t see and go in for mixups when it suits her. With Dante and Strange, you really have no reason to engage you opponent and can spend a lot of time annoying them, unless they have Strider. If that’s the case, you have to bait out Strider and punish, then you can go back to flying around like a jerk.
Her various projectile speeds can be coordinated with assists for some very frustrating gameplay, considering the properties of her traps.
Look up Dante Faltene Loops and Trish Faltene Loops on YouTube to see how they set all that up with Strange. With Dante’s OTG assist, I believe you can set it up regardless of which of those two is on point.