That’s why you do safe things to get in and out of Moroha mode, like ending combos with her move that switches her in and out of Moroha mode (which incidentally knocks people down, so if you use it to switch back to normal A B A, you’ll have plenty of time to use a Blood Pack to get right back into it).
potemkin is really good in slash …
yawn
She’s still pretty good in Normal Mode. CH 6H=GGPO. And you want to regain life with her…it’s just logical to get it back, if you can. And her losing life in Moroha Mode isn’t too big of a problem, because if you’re good enough, your opponent will be dead before it even matters. In Normal Mode, you could use 2S/2H for anti-air, as both can be JCd and you get key activation. Moroha Mode, she has her DP, of course, and her 2S is fucking sweet.
A.B.A is a very solid character, IMO. I enjoy her and I find her to be very strong.
But I’m bored and posting and no one will listen to anything I say, so feh.
I’m not sure about Order Sol being bottom tier…either way, I stumbled across this tourney site before with some high level Japanese play (the red links are tourney matches, the non-red ones at the top are just 24 matches of Order Sol vs. Order Sol, although I didn’t watch those ones to see if they are any good):
http://gamechariot.com/06movie_GGXXS.html
The finals matches I believe are Jam vs. Order Sol:
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/060507_GGXXS_07.zip
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/060507_GGXXS_08.zip
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/060507_GGXXS_09.zip
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/060507_GGXXS_10.zip
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/060507_GGXXS_11.zip
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/060507_GGXXS_12.zip
http://gamechariot.movie.coocan.jp/movie/060507_GGXXS_13.zip
That site had alot of ABA matches by the way, although they were taken down…and yes she was owning (most of the time). Someone did IK her with Anji though, too funny.
Is potemkin still just s.HS and PB punishment? Does he gain any new setups?
6p is (jc) now
you can 6p xx giganter and a oponent take a lot of damage
grab (frc), j.s okizeme
mega fist , and overdrives are more fast now …
all reload hard match ups out in slash (dizzy, eddie , bridget)
excuse my bad english
Well, I don’t really take that tier list that well. I really think Anji isn’t that good, he’s better, not that good from what I can tell. Testament on the other hand yes, he’s gotten better, but not top. Sol, and Ky just trash everyone now. Pot has gotten better, he’s like basciallly noob-friendly now. HOS as of right now are crap tier, but I just think no one gives HOS some love. The game has gotten ALOT more balanced instead of seeing Eddies and Slayers running around…
You guys need to play more Japanese players (or just good US players) before you can talk about tiers, thanks.
It’s GG Tiers don’t matter
Here are some match videos from my last month’s tournament. There’s more coming soon.
http://www.willvolution.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=62
That site I posted before uploaded more videos It seems the Order Sol player who won the tourney is actually kaqn, who is a pretty famous Japanese GG player. They have uploaded more of his matches to that site. I am really questioning him being low tier (regardless of the fact that the tourney was won by him). Gamechariot, from what I’ve seen, seems to have the best GG players. There is also this killer ABA user named Dio, if anyone is interested in seeing some high level gameplay of her.
Edit: Damn that kain has an insane Potemkin. I really recommend download the new videos that were uploaded (the red ones at the top of the page are the new ones).
No Order Sol is very much low tier he’s actually pretty bad compared to other characters…
- ONE good poke that has pretty bad range (2S) and all his other normals are pretty bad as pokes… some really nice up-close normals but you have to get there first.
- almost NO ability to convert random hits into good damage (or much damage at all) and requires specific setups/meter/charge to do any sort of substantial damage… without any of those three, he does like 120ish max, no knockdown.
- gimmicky defense, no solid pokes or AAs to keep people off him, especially people with safe, covered offense or who can start pressure from out of his 2S range.
After watching Japanese HOS players in person, pretty much HOS wins in one of a few ways-
- spams 2S a lot till he gets a CH, then adds 6H (RC into combo if possible) and does this a lot till the other guy falls over.
- spams 2S a bunch, then guesses right with one of his many situationally good moves, gets in, and runs with his momentum until the other guy dies.
- guesses right and lands a huge double jump ground combo… then uses his life lead to spam 2S until the other guy dies.
- miraculously get a lvl3 charge, then use that in a huge combo or at least a mixup/blockstring/gimmick that gives him enough of a life lead and sets him in a good place to spam 2S.
Generally there’s a lot of HOS getting beat up and HOS doing blocked 2S along the way.
And yes this is a bit oversimplified, he can run up and throw instead of running up with 2S and such… but generally speaking he’s not a very good character. Very dumb, really you use 2S a LOT because all his other moves are only good situationally.
He also has some cool tech traps and stuff but again… everything starts with getting in, and his only good (non-gimmicky) way of getting in is 2S.
Highest level play would probably be the GIGS vids but I don’t think those come out very often. As far as I can tell, GIGS has a bunch of vids of players from Akihabara Club Sega in Tokyo, pretty much THE place for GG in Tokyo. Ogawa hangs out there, at the very least.
Gamechariot is pretty good as well, sometimes.
I finally have a copy of this game and I’ve mainly been using Ky because he’s my favorite. I’m loving it so far because it’s very well established that he got beefed in this installment. He can now compete evenly with the majority of the cast so I’m really happy about all his changes. I plan to end up trying out Sol and maybe Johnny.
Does anyone know if the #Reload versions of characters are allowed in tourney play? Since they’re not really broken on the same level as EX characters, I think the matchups would be a lot more diverse.
I saw some screenshots of the game with the #R stages. Does anyone know if they are unlockable? If so, how?
I want to complete the missions for each character. Does anyone know if there is a site or faq that has translated the missions?
#R versions won’t be allowed. Not broken? One word: Eddie.
Missions are random. Learn some Japanese or just spam a few different moves until one of them hurts the other guy then spam that move.
anyone know any good millia combos?
the only good one I know is in the corner:
c.slash , c.Hslash, jump and hold foward and immideitly hit kick, punch, Hslash while still holding forward. and then do qcb+Hslash and immidietly dash and hit the opponent mid air and before they land juggle them with c.Hslash and do the air combo again.
The most basic “good” Millia combo is like…
whatever to 2H JC jS > H XX 214H, late airdash, adH, land, slight pause(pick up pin), 2H JC 214S/H
what there are about a 1000 ky players now?
I barely picked this game up. I started out with eddie and have moved onto slayer. Eddie seems too complicated to play. Slayer seems a lot easier to play with.
Negative edge, yo. Just spend some time with him and it should feel pretty comfortable after a bit.
Learn the unblockables because he really needs that damage that now. =/