General 3S/3S OE Thread. NO DISCUSSING REBALANCE, unless you like INFRACTIONS!

pherai · 2013-07-30T09:15:06.000Z

another neat thing, more recent…

One of the last recurring events at FFA were tozaisen battles we called “Generals.” Notice me and @Pyrolee rockin the longhair :rock: Renic has some great behind the scenes vids from socal 3s tournaments in the past few years. my favorite is his video of Renic Cup from the Denjin Arcade days

Most of the cool pics I think are just on peoples facebooks. Someone should start a thread for 3s scene nostalgia cough

Mitri_MF · 2013-07-30T10:30:31.000Z

:lol:

WTF-AKUMA-HAX · 2013-07-30T10:57:07.000Z

HexSells:

Silly question but where can I find images of the history of 3S (American, Japanese, French, etc) ?

I love seeing pictures of people who used to/still go hard in this game (like that picture of SoCal and Japanese players outside FFA), the game being played at arcades, arcade cabs, discs, posters, literally anything that involves 3S I usually love.

The Shend would be someone of those big facebook/other website images database to want to track down. Coming across things online to buy/sell that have to do with 3rd Strike you might see of course The Shend is there in some capacity. Collection photos he has are pretty cool with stuff you might not know even exists out there, like the Makoto & 2 other characters(?) bust statue.

Do you ever see or relate things in everyday life to 3rd Strike?
Traveling around this stuff does happen to me, but it may be taking that “anything to do with 3s” too far.

Spoiler

LAX Union Station some chinese lady on the phone said “GENEI JIN” twice, only that with emphasis and nothing else. Her daughter next to her staring off in my direction or behind me, paid no attention to that conversation, well neither did I but I picked up that she said only that 2 times and then I was out of range, on my way anyway. I think I said “what the heck is pyrolee following me around?!” around here when it was recent. Could’ve been “Jan” or other words sounding similar.

UCSB chinese girl student next to me, traveling the same way for like 12 hours totally did Ibuki far (turn-into-it) Fierce into my solarplexus while I was looking at 3s videos on my camera. I have enough health as a 3rd Strike guy to take it, and I was okay. There was no “uraken” backfist double press/hold or cancel/combo to like neckbreaker slide. I offered the neck pillow and woke her up, to say sit back in the seat here, Dangerous ride. Didn’t need it. Oh I hit you? Sorry. Ninja women…

Girl from Stockton and boyfriend took my seat when I got back on from the meal stop. Large Rose tattoo on the shoulder. Maybe he didn’t like me talking to her about it, I touched it too I guess, and this Alex haired tanktop guy kicked/kneed my seat from behind the whole rest of the way. Fuckin Alex. He should be destroyed everytime he’s in the corner after Dudley Rose block stun on his shoulder and incoming mixup control, see how he likes it. Or kicked and knee’d a bunch in Alex mirror match maybe.

3 (girl)s?

Not a girl, he plays a 3s girl tho, but it would have been a picture for an EVO thread. Umezono put on my make-shift Chun bracelet and posed like Chun with the hands. :lol:

WTF-AKUMA-HAX · 2013-07-30T11:00:05.000Z

“Level 1” Makoto post SA2 for me was SJC forward Axe Kick-> 1 Hayate (Try to do a 2nd without knowing if it works and because you have time).

It might be like that every online player’s 2 Ken jab Shoryu they never, ever hit.

telesniper · 2013-07-30T12:04:33.000Z

Duralath:

araider08:

bmckay:

I’m gonna work on Makoto’s 100% Stun combo today. I still can’t land it with any consistency. If I can’t land it at least 3/10 today, I’m just going with SA1.

*Edit: Fuck that. I think I’ll stick with SA2 and just do a different combo. Maybe something with more corner carry.

*Edit2: Scratch ALL that shit. I’m using SA1. After five minutes Karakusa HP xx HP.Hayate > Super is consistent.

You could just do the fukiage>j.hp ender. Does a lot of stun and resets your opponent.
SA 2 gives a lot of meter. Meter is kind of awesome

Problem with doing the fukiage > j.fierce ender is unless you have good position, you’ve pushed the opponent all the way across the stage. Now you gotta go chase them again. Of course, if it stuns completely, then by all means.

Very situational indeed, you do have many options after Abare, some have very, very dirty post combo mix-up potential… mwuhaha…

…Anyway, instead of the j.Fierce, you can substitute a j.RH depending on height and/or opposing character. This does the same damage, slightly less stun, but with a bonus of ending up closer to your prey. Note that if you use a Fierce Fukiage for the extra damage, you will need to end with the j.Fierce for the majority of the cast…

Also dependent on the character and spacing, you may opt to use a late Tsurugi (Short or Fwd, also character dependent) followed with a dash Fukiage, this typically results in the opponent being launched in the opposite direction, meaning they aren’t going to be cornered after the follow-up j.Fierce/RH. This also leads to some scary mix-ups that can lead to a stun against characters the WFuki “doesn’t scare”. Normally, you have only a handful of options for stunning them after a J combo that puts them in the corner. 1. Kara-Karakusa, 2. Dash->n.Throw 3. High/low (sweep won’t stun…) Probably forgetting something…
With the threat of a cross under combo, they have more to worry about, which is good for Mak = )

For anyone not confident in doing WFuki, I recommend you try ^^^ out and see if you like it.

HexSells · 2013-07-30T20:54:44.000Z

All of this is tight. Thanks guys.

araider08 · 2013-07-30T20:59:42.000Z

telesniper:

Duralath:

araider08:

bmckay:

I’m gonna work on Makoto’s 100% Stun combo today. I still can’t land it with any consistency. If I can’t land it at least 3/10 today, I’m just going with SA1.

*Edit: Fuck that. I think I’ll stick with SA2 and just do a different combo. Maybe something with more corner carry.

*Edit2: Scratch ALL that shit. I’m using SA1. After five minutes Karakusa HP xx HP.Hayate > Super is consistent.

You could just do the fukiage>j.hp ender. Does a lot of stun and resets your opponent.
SA 2 gives a lot of meter. Meter is kind of awesome

Problem with doing the fukiage > j.fierce ender is unless you have good position, you’ve pushed the opponent all the way across the stage. Now you gotta go chase them again. Of course, if it stuns completely, then by all means.

Very situational indeed, you do have many options after Abare, some have very, very dirty post combo mix-up potential… mwuhaha…

…Anyway, instead of the j.Fierce, you can substitute a j.RH depending on height and/or opposing character. This does the same damage, slightly less stun, but with a bonus of ending up closer to your prey. Note that if you use a Fierce Fukiage for the extra damage, you will need to end with the j.Fierce for the majority of the cast…

Also dependent on the character and spacing, you may opt to use a late Tsurugi (Short or Fwd, also character dependent) followed with a dash Fukiage, this typically results in the opponent being launched in the opposite direction, meaning they aren’t going to be cornered after the follow-up j.Fierce/RH. This also leads to some scary mix-ups that can lead to a stun against characters the WFuki “doesn’t scare”. Normally, you have only a handful of options for stunning them after a J combo that puts them in the corner. 1. Kara-Karakusa, 2. Dash->n.Throw 3. High/low (sweep won’t stun…) Probably forgetting something…
With the threat of a cross under combo, they have more to worry about, which is good for Mak = )

For anyone not confident in doing WFuki, I recommend you try ^^^ out and see if you like it.

Or, you know, instead of the fierce ender of SA2 (after fukiage) you could always axe kick. You can heavy axe kick most of the cast as an SA2 ender from my experience. The only problem this can create is recognizing what side you’re on.

telesniper · 2013-07-31T02:21:10.000Z

araider08:

telesniper:

Duralath:

araider08:

bmckay:

I’m gonna work on Makoto’s 100% Stun combo today. I still can’t land it with any consistency. If I can’t land it at least 3/10 today, I’m just going with SA1.

*Edit: Fuck that. I think I’ll stick with SA2 and just do a different combo. Maybe something with more corner carry.

*Edit2: Scratch ALL that shit. I’m using SA1. After five minutes Karakusa HP xx HP.Hayate > Super is consistent.

You could just do the fukiage>j.hp ender. Does a lot of stun and resets your opponent.
SA 2 gives a lot of meter. Meter is kind of awesome

Problem with doing the fukiage > j.fierce ender is unless you have good position, you’ve pushed the opponent all the way across the stage. Now you gotta go chase them again. Of course, if it stuns completely, then by all means.

Very situational indeed, you do have many options after Abare, some have very, very dirty post combo mix-up potential… mwuhaha…

…Anyway, instead of the j.Fierce, you can substitute a j.RH depending on height and/or opposing character. This does the same damage, slightly less stun, but with a bonus of ending up closer to your prey. Note that if you use a Fierce Fukiage for the extra damage, you will need to end with the j.Fierce for the majority of the cast…

Also dependent on the character and spacing, you may opt to use a late Tsurugi (Short or Fwd, also character dependent) followed with a dash Fukiage, this typically results in the opponent being launched in the opposite direction, meaning they aren’t going to be cornered after the follow-up j.Fierce/RH. This also leads to some scary mix-ups that can lead to a stun against characters the WFuki “doesn’t scare”. Normally, you have only a handful of options for stunning them after a J combo that puts them in the corner. 1. Kara-Karakusa, 2. Dash->n.Throw 3. High/low (sweep won’t stun…) Probably forgetting something…
With the threat of a cross under combo, they have more to worry about, which is good for Mak = )

For anyone not confident in doing WFuki, I recommend you try ^^^ out and see if you like it.

Or, you know, instead of the fierce ender of SA2 (after fukiage) you could always axe kick. You can heavy axe kick most of the cast as an SA2 ender from my experience. The only problem this can create is recognizing what side you’re on.

I was under the impression that we were referencing the SA2->Tsurugi->Fukiage->j.Fierce combo…

In that case… You can opt for a st.Fierce instead of a jumping one, Hayate/taunt cancel it and you have more frames to work with after the fact. This still stuns Gouki and Remy, as well at doesn’t require the execution of even doing a n.sj. It was my go to combo against them back on pad lol.

araider08 · 2013-08-01T02:20:34.000Z

Woops. Tl;dr

Nephinel · 2013-08-01T03:41:04.000Z

Hello 3rd Strike board

I’m having some trouble with Ken’s last trial (the crazy juggle combo), specifically the timing of the second Shippu Jinrai Kyaku. I either miss the second Shippu completely or fail to juggle it properly and Ken stops before he reaches the air. Do I need to perform the second Shippu as soon as Ken touches the ground after the first one?

Gaijinblaze · 2013-08-01T04:07:26.000Z

iirc spacing can be easily set up by walking up to q and jumping backward once. pretty sure the second super is done as early as possible.

Nephinel · 2013-08-01T04:45:23.000Z

Just what I needed, thanks a lot!

So I have to walk forward a bit and then Jab Shoryuken after the second Shippu? I’ve gotten the second Shippu juggle down so far, but always freeze up whenever I need to jab shoryu.

Questions about Ryu’s 4th trial:

How the fuck it OTG Shin Shoryu even possible (it apparently is, as I’ve completed that trial)?

And does it work only on Dudley?

araider08 · 2013-08-01T05:34:53.000Z

Nephinel:

Just what I needed, thanks a lot!

So I have to walk forward a bit and then Jab Shoryuken after the second Shippu? I’ve gotten the second Shippu juggle down so far, but always freeze up whenever I need to jab shoryu.

Questions about Ryu’s 4th trial:

How the fuck it OTG Shin Shoryu even possible (it apparently is, as I’ve completed that trial)?

And does it work only on Dudley?

That’s Dudley only. I don’t think it works vs. quick rise and the other shotos can do the same (Sean, Akuma, and Ken’s SA2’s). That’s something wonky.

yuuki · 2013-08-01T05:40:16.000Z

I can’t remember but I think OTG shin sho works on Hugo also? maybe Alex?

Edit: sorry I’m wrong but twelve sa2 can OTG hugo

pherai · 2013-08-01T06:17:49.000Z

isn’t there a way to hit otg yagyou dama too?

Dander · 2013-08-01T07:24:31.000Z

pherai:

isn’t there a way to hit otg yagyou dama too?

wtf did you just say

Tebbo · 2013-08-01T08:01:45.000Z

i think that is all specific stuff with dudley.
it has to do with however they programmed dudley’s rise or fall or whatever. it isn’t handled the same as everyone else’s.

necro can do that weird ass glitch with dudley because of the same oddity iirc.

Nephinel · 2013-08-01T08:35:22.000Z

I just figured it was either a programming error or hitbox issues.

Is this possible in 2nd Impact or even New Generation? I’d load up my Dreamcast, but it doesn’t feel like working properly right now. Might have to get another one, I’m afraid.

krazykone123 · 2013-08-01T08:43:53.000Z

Can anyone name some hella good Yang and Q players?

I’m watching some Kuroda videos and wanna know if there’s anyone else I should look out for.

pherai · 2013-08-01T08:48:55.000Z

Q - TM, Key, TK, OUT

Yang - Tokura, KO, Furo, Roshihikari, Goemon, Boss