Gekitou Ninja Taisen 3 Discussion Thread

Gasaraki · 2004-12-14T07:01:25.000Z

daher1234:

Btw, with Gaara, try using the down+x super after down+baa and down+ba. See if it changes anything.

It doesn’t change anything at all. all they have to do is attempt to techroll each time to make sure that even if you end it early they tech anyway and avoid the Shukaku arm

System_1 · 2004-12-15T00:20:52.000Z

Gasaraki:

You aren’t going to avoid KnJ’s unless you learn to combo by confirming. Like hit confirming in 3S, you gotta wait until each hit hits to attack next if you want to be ready at anytime to sidestep KnJ.

so then i take it that either the hitstun is pretty long or it’s just framewatching?

What do you mean what are the guard breaks? They work pretty much exactly like CvS2 guard breaks. First the guard starts blue, turns yellow, then red. When it breaks, they lose ALL their chakra(which helps you bait forced KnJ’s), get momentarily stunned, and if the attack their guard broke on normally launches, they get launched like normal.

sorry, i haven’t touched CVS2 in over half a year, the only guard breaks that were coming to mind were MVC2’s, and even then i was going “how the FUCK is that supposed to work?” haha, sorry about that.

thanks again gasa, you’re a giant help.

Gasaraki · 2004-12-15T03:53:55.000Z

Kaistar:

so then i take it that either the hitstun is pretty long or it’s just framewatching?

Hit stun in this game is huge sometimes. it’s definitly enough to hit, wait for a moment or to and hit again and still combo. That’s another thing, alot of hits in string can be delayed for a long time, though it varies. Some recover very fast while others take forever

sorry, i haven’t touched CVS2 in over half a year, the only guard breaks that were coming to mind were MVC2’s, and even then i was going “how the FUCK is that supposed to work?” haha, sorry about that.

I see, well I’ve never played MvC2 enough to even know how guard breaks work so can’t help you if you didn’t get what I said.

thanks again gasa, you’re a giant help.

No prob

t34 · 2004-12-15T08:49:47.000Z

Can I get a tier list or related?

The game seems balanced enough (ordering for X-mas), but I am always curious to see who the underdogs are.

Gasaraki · 2004-12-15T08:56:15.000Z

I already did tier list in this thread

Edit: I’m a nice guy so:

Top
Shino
Shikamaru
Gaara
Neji
Hinata
Itachi
Kankuro
Orochimaru

High
Sasuke
Naruto
Haku
Zabuza
TenTen
Temari
Chouji
Tsunade
Sarutobi

Low
Sakura
Ino
Gai
Kiba
Rock
Jiraiya
Kakashi

Beyond Low tier
Iruka/Mizuki
Anko

My current tier list

bakablitz · 2004-12-15T09:59:33.000Z

where you puttin’ chouji?! :annoy:

Gasaraki · 2004-12-15T10:12:45.000Z

in high, it’s right there man, READ!

btw, each tier isn’t ranked in order

bakablitz · 2004-12-15T11:23:55.000Z

these are correct tiers, i did a thorough analysis and these are the results… ahem

SUPER ALMIGHTY GOD TIER OF JUSTICE
Chouji

LESSER GOD TIER OF SUPREME OWNAGE
Orochimaru

low tier
all those other scrub characters

Gasaraki · 2004-12-15T11:28:11.000Z

lol you’re such a dumbass

:hcb: :r: + :looney:

Gasaraki · 2004-12-16T03:39:06.000Z

Health ranking info copy and pasted form gamefaqs

Introduction
Anyone who has extensively played GNT2, GNT3, and even quite possibly GNT1 have come to realize that some characters just seem to take more or less damage than others, or they just seem to live longer or shorter. Whether or not this can be discerned as programmers giving characters more life or more defense is irrelevant, and the term used from now on in this post will be “defense/life”. The fact of the matter is, it’s not our imagination at all, some characters can just endure more attacks than others.

Purpose
To discover the defense/life of each character and pinpoint it to as close to their true values as possible.

Procedure
Mode: Training
Attack Level: 2 (Default)
Damage Dealer: Naruto’s A (single kunai)

Naruto and X character put into training mode. Naruto throws however many kunais necessary to deplete his opponents entire life bar. Results of how many kunais were needed to achieve this are recorded and compared.

Results
Results are displayed by percentages, with 100% being the assumed average. Since it is unknown what the average defense/life expectancy is, Neji, who alone took an even 30 kunais to defeat will be used as the 100% factor.

76.6% (23 kunais)
K. Naruto

90% (27 kunais)
Hinata
Ino
Tenten
Kankuro
Sakura

93.3% (28 kunais)
Shino
Haku
Temari

96.6% (29 kunais)
Sandaime
Shikamaru
Anko
Kiba

100% (30 kunais)
Neji

103.3% (31 kunais)
Sasuke (Normal and Sharingan)
Tsunade

106.6% (32 kunais)
Mizuki
Naruto
Gaara
Orochimaru

110% (33 kunais)
Kakashi (not possible to gauge S.Kakashi’s defense/life with this method due to life drain)
Gai
Itachi
Iruka
Zabuza
Chouji
Lee (without any gates open and with one gate open, not possible to guage Lee’s defense/life with this method when both gates are open due to life drain)

116.6% (35 kunais)
Jiraiya

Concluding/Interesting Notes
-K. Naruto alone undoubtedly has the least defense/life.
-Jiraiya alone undoubtedly has the most defense/life.
-Iruka has more defense/life than Mizuki.
-Results also concur to damage received by specials.
—Ura Renge kills K.Naruto instantly even if he were to have 100% life. Oddly enough, it takes off precisely 100% life.
—Ura Renge inflicts precisely 60% damage on Jiraiya.
—Since K.Naruto has 76.6% defense/life and Jiraiya has 116.6% defense/life (a precise 40% difference), these results further support the fact that damage is not affected between characters depending on whether the attack is taijutsu, ninjutsu, projectile, or special.
-Some variances still occurred. Example: Even though Lee and Kakashi took the same 33 kunais to kill, Lee would have SLIGHTLY less life left after the 32nd kunai than the others.

Gasaraki · 2004-12-17T06:28:31.000Z

I found a new crossup with Hinata that works with her sidestep attack, she has 4 ways total to lead into it:

f+(A)A, BB(A)A, BBBABB(A)A, or f+BB(A)A

The A’s in parentheses are the sidestep attack and the A after is the combo ender. This sidestep attack autocrosses up ON BLOCK. However, if you just it mash out, for example BBAA, it won’t work. You have to do it like this:

BB(delay for just amoment)AA

Basically you want to delay because you want them to leave the blockstun from BB, this lets you get a crossup from the sidestep attack

bakablitz · 2004-12-17T12:24:58.000Z

chouji has non-replaceable death setup =O
theoretically. >^_^<

Gasaraki · 2004-12-17T22:18:09.000Z

SOMEONE FUCKING RESPOND! I don’t want to be the only one posting in here goddammit

Snowman · 2004-12-17T22:46:43.000Z

I would like to contribute something but I’ve got nothing to give. 8 days and I get my hands on it, but you’ve pretty much nailed all the strats and combos for most characters (the ones I’d play anyway)

Gasaraki · 2004-12-17T23:23:01.000Z

haha yeah, true. You bastards and your not being able to play yet :mad:

Yakuza · 2004-12-18T03:15:01.000Z

Snowman:

I would like to contribute something but I’ve got nothing to give. 8 days and I get my hands on it, but you’ve pretty much nailed all the strats and combos for most characters (the ones I’d play anyway)

I know how you feel snowman, I swear never to get cheap shipping again… well maybe if I’m broke, between that and christmas around the corner seems like I’ll have to wait a few more days.
:sad:

System_1 · 2004-12-18T04:10:30.000Z

Snowman:

I would like to contribute something but I’ve got nothing to give. 8 days and I get my hands on it, but you’ve pretty much nailed all the strats and combos for most characters (the ones I’d play anyway)

Ditto. I won’t be getting my game till the 30th of this month, so yeah relax.

Snowman · 2004-12-18T04:32:50.000Z

I payed for standard shipping and it only took over a week to get here [and my post is really lousy]. But this was end of november and I still had to wait anyway. Damn x-mas presents

Gasaraki · 2004-12-18T04:35:09.000Z

Yeah, I’m so glad I got my christmas present early(an iRiver H320)

System_1 · 2004-12-18T23:33:44.000Z

Haku strats please? =) I can only find basic combos and semi cross ups with his needle ice in the air move.