There is a tournament in Cleveland on the 20th of this month. I know it is a bit of short notice, but it is also a short drive. I won’t be able to go, so a couple of you need to organize and go take their money. Adam/TJ/RJ/Aaron, I leave it up to you guys to win SSF4 if you can make it.
Who all went to NEC and how did you guys do?
I’m down for Cleveland, someone drive me plz, i’ll be your best friend.
also some linkage to the tourney would be nice
IF I still don’t have a job by then, you might have to pay for my way in but I’ll still drive there…
IF I DO find a job by then and can somehow get that monday off (who the fuck has a tourney on a monday?) I’ll also gladly drive.
credit to jesse for this gem:
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I’ll see how things are looking in about a week here for cleveland, I really wanna hit up another tournament pre CBB in January, will drive if I’m able to go but it all depends on how busy things are with work, I’ll keep you all posted (3 passengers in my car possible)
… Welp… Maybe someone took it to the lost and found or something.
Noone that was there that day considered holding onto it? That’s kind of… Surprising, not sure how to feel about that.
Worst case scenario: I’m officially cursed. Woooo curses.
jesse - step your meat boy game up.
jake - I just saw infinite jest lying around this place. remind me to give it to you next time i see you.
all coffee, even racist coffee, is tasty.
not sure. i left at 10:30 and the random select tournament was still going on and someone was using it.
we stopped using the bbcs stick since the button layout was different than that of the sf4 pad. too many button checks
don’t worry I am sure its still there.
If im free for the tournament ill go to cleveland for the day
The changes are up. Fei Long players rejoice! Guile got nerfed back to low tier!
No change to sonic boom but tons of damage nerfs and the air throw nerf will make rushing his ass down way less scary.
Time to find another second character Jake?
Sound like I’m gonna have to learn Fei Long cause Guile and Rufus Ultra 2 won’t be suitable secondaries anymore.
Nate, thanks bro. If I can get my paper done for my lit class on Saturday, I should be able to hang out on Sunday.
Today in jumpstart I got to draw a picture of my friends. I ended up drawing a pic of Adam holding his tip money in one hand and his new laptop in the other, he was wearing a pita pit shirt. TJ had a left 4 dead shirt, a ryu headband, a duffel bag and he was giving the peace sign as if he won. Herb stood next to a house with his dirty coat on. Nate was some scribbles with a hand sticking out holding coffee, Aaron and Bobby were jumping away from one another with jump back fierce, and RJ had a tray with water on it… you know, cause he serves up the watttaaaahhhh. Sadly, once I was done, one of the kids felt that it didn’t have enough color on it, so everything got scribbled over with a black marker… so use your imagination here as to what it looked like cause it is no longer with us.
Now back to the world of finals and crapiness.
dammit jake! i would have put that drawing on my fridge :sad:
also, i’m free for games thursday, friday, and possibly sunday. saturday wont work tho because i’m going drinking.
woooo drinking! :bottle:
I was pretty sad to see it go as well. I’ll have to try and redo it at some point, but I want to point out that I am no Michelangelo, hell, not even a Picaso. So it wasn’t anything professional, but it was still mad cool.
I might be able to swing a thursday night session at my place… not sure just yet, so give me until Thursday to see how my work is going. But I will totally be there on Friday, rocking it out once more with Gully and his mighty cr. fierce of doom.
As for next week, I should be free on Tuesday and Thursday. So if any of you are up for some Cleveland practice or if you just want to hang out and chill before I vanish before the holidays only to return on January 4th, get at me.
Aaron, we need to meet up before I leave. Not just for hanging out purposes, but I need to face you destructive boxer before I go and throw down with Midwest’s number 1 boxer.
I’m in for thursday.
Guile changes are legit, and won’t make him low tier
continue your weeping RJ
also it’s still possible to reaction air throw chicken wing even with a 4 frame air throw, really nothing much changed at all except slight damage reductions
educated guesses on damage changes:
Hurricane down to 400 or 360 dmg (not bad)
LK Flashkick to 115 (down from 130, 15 less due to the moves invincibility), MK to 130(down from 140), HK to 150(down from 160), EX to 170(down from 180)
forward fierce to 100 (From 120)
UDK to 100 (from 120)
so if I’m even close to correct on those damage nerfs…this changes uh…practically nothing? guile’s BnB results in 220 dmg rather than 228…i’m scared, my dude is gonna be so low tier
Lol, It’s not reacting to CW with the air throw that I’m scared of. 1 frame more on an anti-air is one more frame for me to get a hitbox out. Does it make it useless? no but it sure as hell won’t be as effective especially because Fei has awesome air-to-air moves with great range and priority.
Also with less damage on his normals and specials that puts the footsies game back in Fei’s court which is what most Fei’s will try to do in the guile match. If you can’t bulldoze the wall,you will be able to take it down brick by brick now.
On a side note, Jake or anyone pick up Fei so I can get some mirror practice in. After AE drops I’m expecting to have to play that match a lot more.
stand fierce is still just as good as it was 
and everything else is still the same, just takes 1 more hit than before most likely, and guile may have to depend on j.mp/nj.fierce/j.mk more for air to airs but that’s not much of an issue, I just don’t see guile’s matchup chart changing much due to his changes, it’s going to depend on everyone else’s changes.
btw anyone up for games tonight? I should be free around 8ish
Besides his kara, Sagat really only lost damage (and health) from vanilla to super and damn did that screw everything up for him, just saying. I don’t want Guile to be “vanilla” bad. I’d personally like him to be high mid but the list of nerfs, even being optimistic will easily change most of his charts, especially against footsie type characters like Fei and Chun.
Regardless, I think a lot of the so called balance changes in AE are actually going to make the game LESS balanced overall. Honda- Fei is 4-6 in super. It is easily going to be 3-7 in AE for example. Even though Guile got nerfed, he didn’t get anything to help him with his bad match-ups (like Fuerte and Viper) with the damage nerf those matches will be worse for him too. I mean, he hardly wins tourneys now because of his bad match-ups. AE looks mighty grim for any character who had really bad match ups in super.
Which, funny enough is everyone considered high tier in super. Honda, Chun, Guile, Bison, all have terrible match-ups against at least 1 other character. Almost all of them got nerfed with very few buffs. Doesn’t make much sense. Oh and Boxer got nerfed. YAY!
If you are a Ryu, Rufus, Fei, Abel, or Akuma player, chances are your character is going to be damn near close to top tier in AE.
I just don’t see a small damage nerf (which is all that is likely) to be as serious as sagat’s damage nerf, and non cancelable short took away a huge part of his game, where as none of guile’s game has changed, I understand where you’re coming from with the “yay guile’s been taken down a peg” but backfist/UDK(which got buffed hitbox wise anyways) damage nerf/FK damage nerf (unless they seriously crush the damage on it) shouldn’t effect him as much as the meter gain loss, then again, his meter gain was wtfretarded in super. Guile isn’t exactly known for his huge damage punishes and combos the way Sagat was in Vanilla.
We’ll have to see what happens when AE hits, I don’t exactly want guile to be high tier either because i’m tired of hearing people complain about the only character i’ve ever played in street fighter since ST. New people come in […to the fighting game community at large…] and everything turns into “YOU SONIC BOOM SPAMMER, LOL, ALL YOU CAN DO IS SPAM MOVES” (i’m not pointing fingers at you RJ, this is in general, you are making legitimate points)
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hmmm…
No body in this thread has ever said that…