Hmm, so maybe since I was never a bad kid and didn’t require that I be grounded (I don’t believe I EVER was) or have my shit destroyed I just can’t relate to dealing with bad children like their arch nemesis. Entirely possible shrug
I can’t get over this revenge thing. It’s hilarious. She did something stupid, publicly writing about him, his mother, and disrespecting some woman I don’t give a fuck about. He dealt out her punishment publicly in turn. These are consequences not some personal vendetta. If I walked up and, acting out, slapped my pops in the face? He’d hit me back, a whole hell of a lot harder. If you put your kid in his room after he’s done something wrong, are you doing it out of revenge? This is just silly.
I’m not reinforcing your “point” here because I can’t see one. It’s funny how you’re getting all uppity after calling a dude who has a good job, a nice house, and land to play with his toys safely(like in the video!) a hick, redneck, etc in a derogatory way. You wanna judge people and call names you’re open to judgement and namecalling.
You take general statements with sincerity, and respond with condescension?
I don’t see how that’s helping this thread whatsoever.
In different cultures, there are different ways of doing things, taking a one-dimensional side from something will never bode well.
Maybe, because of your parent’s parents teachings, you were never punish corporeally.
I lived in a neighborhood where guns and gangs were commonplace.
If I took things over the line, there was the possibility of me getting killed.
My mother nipped it in the bud in at an early age.
I really don’t appreciate the condescending tone, seeing not only as you are disrespecting someone’s parents, but also their beliefs.
If you want to discuss how authoritative figures handle discipline, I’ll be willing, but, the disrespectful shit has to stop, you make yourself look like a static villain from a children’s book.
I’ll address you because you’re infinitely more coherent and civil than Lunaid. Talking to him is like talking to a brick wall, where the wall in question is actually dumber than all the other walls in the building…anyway.
Actually, if you’re going by what I posted to say that, you are confused. I was being sincere as well. This thread seems like a bunch of bad ass kids who got their asses stomped out their whole childhood and now feel that’s the ONLY way. I do believe I said that BOTH schools of thought on parenting (whether being a hard ass or being much more understanding and liberal) have produced GOOD kids. Obviously this means there is merit to both. But I was saying that, aside from being spanked as a LITTLE kid, once I was a teenager, my parents took the liberal approach. So I was genuinely musing that maybe I can’t relate to the idea that you have to have animosity towards a kid who’s acting up which a lot of people in this thread seem to think.
As for the condescension, do not even start. Civil disagreements have no need for it, sure, but I think you’re being a bit disingenuous to suggest that the people siding with this father that have addressed me have been “sincere”. I gave my opinion initially and it’s greeted with (in fact everyone who has an opinion similar to mine) hostility like I was the bad ass kid. So I really don’t give two fucks what you think about my condescension because quite frankly I don’t appreciate all the morons in this thread saying that if you thought this man was in the wrong, you’re going to be a terrible parent. So defending them and accosting me for the same shit makes you a big. Ass. Hypocrite.
And another thing I don’t give a boeing 747 fuck about is respecting beliefs. Beliefs should stand on their own, they don’t get a free pass to have to be respected by default. But on that note, if you’re genuinely trying to be the voice of reason, or some shit, you should also address these rabid, blood thirsty fucks who have some backhanded stupid shit to say in response to “I think this was way over the edge” posts.
The reason I don’t address those people is because they’ll take care of themselves.
No extreme ever lasts too long, especially the extreme train of thought brought about on the internet.
My parents did the same as you, only to know that when words fail, actions do not.
I was usually given the “3 strikes, and your ass is grass” policy, and I believe that took route because not only was i told repeatedly (That’s reinforcement), I was shown the strict consequences of my actions on the third offense of the same action.
It seems like in said video, the father has given warning to the daughter, telling her that doing such a stunt would put her in a unfavourable position.
She then proceeded to continue the act she was warned about, and yet you act like the father took an overly harsh course of action?
Not only did she constantly bit the hand that fed her, she took it down the worst route.
She didn’t go to relatives, nor the police (if her complaints were true), she didn’t discuss this with her parents, she disrespected her parents, cursed them out on a public forum (I don’t care if it was set for just her friends, you put your business out on the internet, you NEVER get it back)
It would be like her going into the middle of the lunch room, telling her friends friends about her exaggerated problems, in the loudest voice, and then just thinking it’s okay.
It’s not okay, it’s the absolute most disrespectful, immature, and rash thing someone can do.
And the father responded first with reason, then stooped down to her level, for her to get the point.
Sometimes you have to dumb down your rhetoric for some people to understand, and that’s what he did here.
As far as we know, he didn’t even touch her physically, just showed extreme force to her items, which, I believe is more effective.
I think you touched on the key phrase “stooped to her level”.
Like I said a couple of pages back, that as a parent you have to suck up your pride and ego for the good of your children…quite a bit in fact. And I acknowledge everything that the man would have felt with his daughter saying the things she did in the medium which she said them. But to me, that’s what being a father ultimately is. Your daughter is talking shit about you on social media, with the piece of electronics that you bought her, powering it with electricity you pay for. Do you A. get her back, by attempting to humiliate her in front of a potentially infinite audience or do you B. put aside your crushed ego to still handle her in mature fashion?
All I’m saying is, the good(better) parent does B. in this situation. I don’t dispute that doing A is pretty badass and diabolical, but I just cannot justify using those adjectives when describing actions taken towards your children. Because ultimately doing A (especially when it involves firing off a gun) isn’t even going to result in the father regaining respect but a borderline pathological fear. I don’t imagine that’s good for a father/daughter relationship (or any relationship).
Yo man. The laptop was gonna get it anyway. I know that at some point that screen looked at him disrespectfully. I mean, look at the daughter. That laptop has been like her BFF, so you know it had the same attitude as her. Pour some RAM on the computer case for this dead motherboard.
Sometimes, I believe that there can be TOO clever parenting.
Sometimes, your child just isn’t mentally ready to understand the levity of your actions.
Kind of like when someone new to fighting games presses buttons on an opponent’s frametraps.
They just do not understand.
There is a simple efficiency in physical punishment.
My mother kicked the shit out of me when I was a child, and I mean, she knocked me around the house, beat me with a hanger when I was wet. (It may sound bad, but even today, even back then, I believe I deserved it)
I do not fear my mother, I respect her wholeheartedly.
To me, it’s the same as selling someone’s your child’s Xbox or removing her mattress, this time, it just involved a gun (Which as you can clearly see in the video, was carefully discharged :On his property, no one around)
Granted. That is your opinion, and I see validity in it.
However, what if this good(better) parent, as you put it, takes the route of option B, but two months down the road, your daughter is doing the exact same thing? Yes, taking route B again is certainly an option, but do you disagree that if this choice failed to deliver the results that you desire (I.E., your daughter learning respect in some fashion, demonstrated by the fact that she transgressed you in the exact same manner) that a different course of action is necessary? Let’s ignore how you personally feel about guns and this specific instance. Many ITT would describe this man as insane on various levels, but it has been said that,
He knew that giving the same punishment again would not accomplish anything and the she would be right back to being disrespectful on Facebook shortly thereafter. I am convinced that this man is not the picture of a bruised machismo ego as many have asserted. He seems to be a patient, reasonable man. He does not want his daughter to go out into the world and be disrespectful of others, because disrespect begets disrespect. If he had shot her laptop the first time this happened I would potentially side with the daughter, but the fact that she has made the same mistake twice leads me to believe that the father has a leg to stand on here.
I wonder. Can you use a ouija board to contact your laptop? If so, would you still need a password? Either way, I’m sure there’s an app for that…If only she had a cell phone on which to use it.
Honestly, I don’t see why more parents don’t just disown their kids.
I mean, if I ever had kids, and they did something I didn’t like I would be like. "Ok, get in the car, we are going to child and family services and getting you some new parents…let them deal with your shit. I gave you chances, but you are just bad. When I was a young I didn’t do anything mean or rebellious because I had videogames and anime to live vicariously, you like stupid things like your idiot friends and drinking. I just don’t get you and I am unable to love you. Hopefully you try harder next time, because this is all your fault"
and as I was leaving I would be like “I hope they make you go to church” and never see them again. That would learn em.
I don’t know if you ever owned or used a gun before, but they are very fun and amusing for the simplicity of them. When I lived in a house with 3 other room mates that had guns, we would find reasons to go out to the wilderness to shoot, every other week(since ammo can be expensive). So when the guy shot his daughter’s laptop I bet in the back of his mind he was like “Fuck yeah, guns are sweet”
People seem to have this stigma that guns are like unpredictable wild animals that can’t be controlled and that the guy could have seriously hurt someone by shooting a laptop on the ground in the middle of a large open field.
I can picture a station wagon with wood panel siding driving away from two kids standing on either side of a social worker as the camera pans left. The audience hears,
“I HO[SIZE=6]PE THEY [SIZE=5]MAKE YOU [SIZE=4]GO TO [SIZE=3]CHUUU[SIZE=2]UUUU[SIZE=1]UUURCH!”[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
as the car disappears down the road with a fist shaking angrily out of the driver’s window.
