"Execute." The Decapre thread

cerberusfx · 2013-07-30T06:42:05.000Z

Hawkingbird:

cerberusfx:

Hawkingbird:

cerberusfx:

In the street fighter universe ONLY (no crossover or from “cousins” (like Final Fight, etc)

You realize this is contradictory. You can’t call it a universe while excludes the every thing that makes it a universe.

not really.

Street Fighter
Street Fighter II
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter 3st
Street Fighter 4
Street Fighter EX

Pick a character from these games.

There’s more to Street Fighter than just the games that share it’s name when it’s apart of a shared universe. The producer specifically said universe not just strictly Street Fighter. That puts Final Fight, Slam Masters and Captain Commando under that umbrella. Three of the four of the announced characters and one of the stages are from Final Fight. It would be stupid exclude them now considering how of much of that series is there already. The 5th character could easily be Carlos from Final Fight 2 or Lucia and Dean from Final Fight 3 as it does any random background SF character you can name.

That’s the thing tho. Aside of Final Fight that, like Eternal said (I think) was supposed to be a sequel to Street Fighter, there wasn’t any other games with characters coming from another title put in a Street Fighter game. Why would they break this method now ? I also don’t think having Biff Slamkovich and Gunloc mentioned in a game should be enough to make them come in USF4, out of no where. More of the plot around the whole SF universe can be founded here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/583859-saturday-night-slam-masters/faqs/26094

It states that:

As for Hugo’s Street Fighter 3 Second
Impact ending with the CWA, those are definitely just joke endings
that never happened (he doesn’t have any tag team partners in Third Strike
nor does his Third Strike storyline indicate that his endings could have
happened in any way) and not meant to be taken seriously.

As for Captain Commando there are not true evidence anywhere.
Of course you could take this whole story with a grain of salt or w/e. But reading all this is what you get pretty close for a full story of the Street Fighter Universe.

I also don’t see how the 4 announced characters have any influence over the 5th character

TheFreshPrince · 2013-07-30T06:43:47.000Z

cerberusfx:

Hawkingbird:

cerberusfx:

Hawkingbird:

cerberusfx:

In the street fighter universe ONLY (no crossover or from “cousins” (like Final Fight, etc)

You realize this is contradictory. You can’t call it a universe while excludes the every thing that makes it a universe.

not really.

Street Fighter
Street Fighter II
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter 3st
Street Fighter 4
Street Fighter EX

Pick a character from these games.

There’s more to Street Fighter than just the games that share it’s name when it’s apart of a shared universe. The producer specifically said universe not just strictly Street Fighter. That puts Final Fight, Slam Masters and Captain Commando under that umbrella. Three of the four of the announced characters and one of the stages are from Final Fight. It would be stupid exclude them now considering how of much of that series is there already. The 5th character could easily be Carlos from Final Fight 2 or Lucia and Dean from Final Fight 3 as it does any random background SF character you can name.

That’s the thing tho. Aside of Final Fight that, like Eternal said (I think) was supposed to be a sequel to Street Fighter, there wasn’t any other games with characters coming from another title put in a Street Fighter game. Why would they break this method now ? I also don’t think having Biff Slamkovich and Gunloc mentioned in a game should be enough to make them come in USF4, out of no where. More of the plot around the whole SF universe can be founded here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/583859-saturday-night-slam-masters/faqs/26094

It states that:

As for Hugo’s Street Fighter 3 Second
Impact ending with the CWA, those are definitely just joke endings
that never happened (he doesn’t have any tag team partners in Third Strike
nor does his Third Strike storyline indicate that his endings could have
happened in any way) and not meant to be taken seriously.

As for Captain Commando there are not true evidence anywhere.
Of course you could take this whole story with a grain of salt or w/e. But reading all this is what you get pretty close for a full story of the Street Fighter Universe.

Fuck canon, Gunloc, Gene, or Samonosuke would be the shit!

cerberusfx · 2013-07-30T06:47:29.000Z

Will Smith:

cerberusfx:

Hawkingbird:

cerberusfx:

Hawkingbird:

cerberusfx:

In the street fighter universe ONLY (no crossover or from “cousins” (like Final Fight, etc)

You realize this is contradictory. You can’t call it a universe while excludes the every thing that makes it a universe.

not really.

Street Fighter
Street Fighter II
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter 3st
Street Fighter 4
Street Fighter EX

Pick a character from these games.

There’s more to Street Fighter than just the games that share it’s name when it’s apart of a shared universe. The producer specifically said universe not just strictly Street Fighter. That puts Final Fight, Slam Masters and Captain Commando under that umbrella. Three of the four of the announced characters and one of the stages are from Final Fight. It would be stupid exclude them now considering how of much of that series is there already. The 5th character could easily be Carlos from Final Fight 2 or Lucia and Dean from Final Fight 3 as it does any random background SF character you can name.

That’s the thing tho. Aside of Final Fight that, like Eternal said (I think) was supposed to be a sequel to Street Fighter, there wasn’t any other games with characters coming from another title put in a Street Fighter game. Why would they break this method now ? I also don’t think having Biff Slamkovich and Gunloc mentioned in a game should be enough to make them come in USF4, out of no where. More of the plot around the whole SF universe can be founded here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/583859-saturday-night-slam-masters/faqs/26094

It states that:

As for Hugo’s Street Fighter 3 Second
Impact ending with the CWA, those are definitely just joke endings
that never happened (he doesn’t have any tag team partners in Third Strike
nor does his Third Strike storyline indicate that his endings could have
happened in any way) and not meant to be taken seriously.

As for Captain Commando there are not true evidence anywhere.
Of course you could take this whole story with a grain of salt or w/e. But reading all this is what you get pretty close for a full story of the Street Fighter Universe.

Fuck canon, Gunloc, Gene, or Samonosuke would be the shit!

Lol indeed. But I’m only going with logic here

Hawkingbird · 2013-07-30T06:51:54.000Z

Capcom don’t give a fuck about canon. They retcon at the drop of a hat.

cerberusfx:

Hawkingbird:

cerberusfx:

Hawkingbird:

cerberusfx:

In the street fighter universe ONLY (no crossover or from “cousins” (like Final Fight, etc)

You realize this is contradictory. You can’t call it a universe while excludes the every thing that makes it a universe.

not really.

Street Fighter
Street Fighter II
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter 3st
Street Fighter 4
Street Fighter EX

Pick a character from these games.

There’s more to Street Fighter than just the games that share it’s name when it’s apart of a shared universe. The producer specifically said universe not just strictly Street Fighter. That puts Final Fight, Slam Masters and Captain Commando under that umbrella. Three of the four of the announced characters and one of the stages are from Final Fight. It would be stupid exclude them now considering how of much of that series is there already. The 5th character could easily be Carlos from Final Fight 2 or Lucia and Dean from Final Fight 3 as it does any random background SF character you can name.

That’s the thing tho. Aside of Final Fight that, like Eternal said (I think) was supposed to be a sequel to Street Fighter, there wasn’t any other games with characters coming from another title put in a Street Fighter game. Why would they break this method now ? I also don’t think having Biff Slamkovich and Gunloc mentioned in a game should be enough to make them come in USF4, out of no where. More of the plot around the whole SF universe can be founded here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/583859-saturday-night-slam-masters/faqs/26094

It states that:

As for Hugo’s Street Fighter 3 Second
Impact ending with the CWA, those are definitely just joke endings
that never happened (he doesn’t have any tag team partners in Third Strike
nor does his Third Strike storyline indicate that his endings could have
happened in any way) and not meant to be taken seriously.

As for Captain Commando there are not true evidence anywhere.
Of course you could take this whole story with a grain of salt or w/e. But reading all this is what you get pretty close for a full story of the Street Fighter Universe.

I also don’t see how the 4 announced characters have any influence over the 5th character

The evidence for CC exists in the game itself. If the setting being a Metro City and Sho being a successor to Guy isn’t enough for you than I don’t know what to tell you.

Eternal · 2013-07-30T06:58:48.000Z

@HawkingBird AFAIK They don’t mention Metro City by name in-game even in the internation versions. Also he is saying that they only made Sho a successor to Guy in the international versions but not in Japan (i dunno if this is true or not)

However I do know that the Captain Commando comics take place in Metro City. Though they aren’t canon.

Hawkingbird · 2013-07-30T07:08:17.000Z

Sho/Guy relationship must be true in Japan or else it wouldn’t have been used in the Namco x Capcom. Yea, it’s crossover but these games don’t make up canon for another company’s characters. They usually use what’s established. Even if Captain Commando isn’t in Metro City the Sho connection is enough to set CC in the SF universe. There are other Capcom series that were connected with each other with less.

Genistar · 2013-07-30T07:43:38.000Z

I really think it might be one of those two scraped characters… Raven or King kobra…

vasili10 · 2013-07-30T10:15:23.000Z

Hawkingbird:

Capcom don’t give a fuck about canon. They retcon at the drop of a hat.

Actually the main branch of the company does, and it resorts to retconning and rewriting far less often than you might expect compared to CUSA. So not really any need for such an attitude.

Hawkingbird:

Yea, it’s crossover but these games don’t make up canon for another company’s characters.

Uh, yeah they do and they do so like there’s no tomorrow because crossovers are pretty much free-reign bonanzas, goes with the nature of their “why-don’t-we-suppose-this-happens” types of settings.

Hawkingbird · 2013-07-30T11:48:15.000Z

vasili10:

Hawkingbird:

Capcom don’t give a fuck about canon. They retcon at the drop of a hat.

Actually the main branch of the company does, and it resorts to retconning and rewriting far less often than you might expect compared to CUSA. So not really any need for such an attitude.

Tell that to Resident Evil.

vasili10:

Hawkingbird:

Yea, it’s crossover but these games don’t make up canon for another company’s characters.

Uh, yeah they do and they do so like there’s no tomorrow because crossovers are pretty much free-reign bonanzas, goes with the nature of their “why-don’t-we-suppose-this-happens” types of settings.

Examples? I’ve a couple of them like Cross Edge and the characters I was familiar with were perfectly in-character and would acknowledge any relationship characters from the same home series have if one exists. Morrigan and Felicia met in Cross Edge but aren’t familiar with each other. They have no relationship in Darkstalkers so no relationship exists in that game. Crossovers are free-reign bonanzas in terms of the game’s self contained story. It usually doesn’t fuck around with a character’s history of their respective home series.

crazydiamond · 2013-07-30T11:55:39.000Z

Ninja_Philosopher:

They’ve all been in fighting games @crazydiamond so they’re all definite no.

But Strider, Haggar, Akira and Batsu have never been in a Street Fighter game before. Unless you count backgrounds.

Eternal · 2013-07-30T12:03:28.000Z

crazydiamond:

Ninja_Philosopher:

They’ve all been in fighting games @crazydiamond so they’re all definite no.

But Strider, Haggar, Akira and Batsu have never been in a Street Fighter game before. Unless you count backgrounds.

Doesn’t matter, they specifically stated that this would be the characters fighting game debut.

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Ariesno · 2013-07-30T14:24:00.000Z

Noembelu become “Little eagle” in USF4.

crazydiamond · 2013-07-30T14:37:48.000Z

Eternal:

crazydiamond:

Ninja_Philosopher:

They’ve all been in fighting games @crazydiamond so they’re all definite no.

But Strider, Haggar, Akira and Batsu have never been in a Street Fighter game before. Unless you count backgrounds.

Doesn’t matter, they specifically stated that this would be the characters fighting game debut.

http://shoryuken.com/2013/07/17/ultra-street-fighter-ivs-mysterious-fifth-character-will-be-making-their-fighting-game-debut/

Wow! Then that does change the situation a lot!

Back to the drawing board I guess…

Eternal · 2013-07-30T14:48:11.000Z

Ariesno:

Noembelu become “Little eagle” in USF4.

Yeah I actually was thinking it might be one of the dolls. Using Noembelu would allow them to use Julia’s model from SFxT to save effort.

Ninja_Philosopher · 2013-07-30T15:15:29.000Z

Eternal:

Ariesno:

Noembelu become “Little eagle” in USF4.

Yeah I actually was thinking it might be one of the dolls. Using Noembelu would allow them to use Julia’s model from SFxT to save effort.

Yeah but I think they’re putting a lot of time in this. So I would think they’d make a completely new model for her, secretly reveal more characters or just someone else.

Can you imagine the bluff though and 6 more characters were added? It’d round it up to 50 and then it’d all be good.
Alex, Q, Karate Clown, Charlie, Twelve and Sodom would be who I’d like to see.
If EX characters were ever allowed to be turned over to CAPCOM, I would want Garuda, Skullomania, Doctrine Dark, Vulcano Rosso, Pullum (as much as I hate her), Jack, Hakuto and Kairi.

Killer_Jigglypuff · 2013-07-30T16:21:06.000Z

Nah, I wouldn’t say Capcom is bluffing about more characters. They would be taking every opportunity to tout how much value you would be getting for all the new characters if that was the case.

TehGoomba · 2013-07-30T18:02:27.000Z

Sheng Long!

Genistar · 2013-07-30T19:07:56.000Z

It probably is Little eagle…

Neclord · 2013-07-30T19:14:32.000Z

Hmmm…
3 more character slots left? =P

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vasili10 · 2013-07-30T19:39:23.000Z

Hawkingbird:

Tell that to Resident Evil.

Only after Biohazard. I’m talking about canon with respect to solely the Street Fighter saga.

Hawkingbird:

Examples? I’ve a couple of them like Cross Edge and the characters I was familiar with were perfectly in-character and would acknowledge any relationship characters from the same home series have if one exists. Morrigan and Felicia met in Cross Edge but aren’t familiar with each other. They have no relationship in Darkstalkers so no relationship exists in that game. Crossovers are free-reign bonanzas in terms of the game’s self contained story. It usually doesn’t fuck around with a character’s history of their respective home series.

In CvS2 Dan was born on May 6. SvC Chaos introduces Brainwashed Ken. Neither of those are a consequence of the respective game’s self-contained story, but rather an introduction to its settings.