Excellent players you played online

I really hope you don’t take offense, Artayes, as I am neutral on the matter. I think you’re both kinda silly for making such a big deal about this. I taunt scrubs and intermediates alike but simply because I know they tried so hard and think I got lucky. That makes it hilarious. And in a game where I can’t do any of the fun stuff I usually do due to lag I have to find any form of entertainment I can find. I am playing the game for fun after all.

Dander for President 2012.

I fucking love walls of text.

dander is a mean guy. he makes fun of his friends.

Chun-li is bad online. And if Dr. Ryan is in 10th Dan, chun-li shouldn’t be his only usable character.

naw, man. no offense at all. I am glad you felt confident in your game against me.
if I whiffed a few moves on you, I was probably practicing the UOH super. I have been having a blast with that lately.

Chun is a bitch, and it will be a hard matchup, but its even sweeter when the underdog wins, right?

why dont you get on tonite and we can play?

he said he would use Q in his money matches against me, but I have a feeling he will play Yun or Chun.

“Whiteknighting”? Really? For me, this isn’t really about Artayes or Ryan or you but about standing up for what I think is the truth and for what I value and trying to put my personal best foot forward regarding other players and this game. There are two reasons why I have shown Artayes respect in this thread:

  1. (stay calm… deep breath) … … there are so many fucking BULLSHIT opinions spouted on SRK, especially about another player’s skill but certainly not limited to that, and they are stated with such arrogance that it is both mindblowing and disturbing to know or to later come to realize that the dude was just some arrogant Plebian jackass who had no freaging idea what he was talking about. No one cares about 3S tier lists anymore, and thank God they don’t because if they did, there would be a 5000 post thread with people going back and forth with “CHUN ABSOLUTELY BODIES MAKOTO AND HUGO AND EVEN IBUKI AND RYU SHE BREAKS THE GAME” and “Uhhhhh no you fucking idiot you’re an idiot Chun has precisely a 6.35-3.65 match-up with Ibuki, I calculated it using the supercomputer I bought at Walmart having glazed it with the sweat I wiped off Justin Wong’s upper arm when he wasn’t paying attention at Evo, please just stop being an idiot you suck even though I have no idea who you are and I’ve only played this game for three weeks” blah blah blah So… when I see an extreme, black/white opinion like “Artayes is terrible” and I have some reason to think it’s not a proper description of reality, I’m going to challenge it. Of course I fall into that trap myself, but not dumbing the world down with blanket statements and overly extreme opinions is something I value, so when I don’t think a single person had a positive thing to say about Artayes, I felt the need to step in.

  2. Artayes has been nice to me. I don’t know exactly why other people don’t get along with him or him with them, but I’m not posting to judge that - I’m posting my experience. But my experience with Artayes: lots of great matches, mutual respect, learning a ton about Necro, sharing a true passion for fighting games, and a positive attitude toward improving and challenging each other… My experience with you: seeing your “die Derek Neal die” avatar fifty times whenever I come on these boards (does anyone else still have that up???), tons of negativity toward things and occasionally even people that I respect, being a near constant downer and adding nothing thus far to my 3rd Strike life… As I’ve made clear, I try to keep an open mind, and from what I understand this is LouisCipher: Mellow Edition and that’s awesome, but you’ve got a long way to go before I take your opinion seriously.

I want this thread to end and i’ll let yo all finish but midsouth>>>japan at 3s

Best person i’ve played online or seen play, is myself.

take it one step further-
everywhere else 3s>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>japan 3s

I started that last post a long time ago and there have been more posts since… I do not agree with Artayes’ opinion on Ryan only playing lesser players - obviously the whole Japan thing renders that point silly, but even on XBL I have always seen him kicking the scrubs immediately and it’s usually the best players who are on at the time that are in his room.

I wish Artayes would respect Ryan’s play… doesn’t make any sense to me, really, but that doesn’t mean that hating on his Necro is any less immature.

I’ve never understood why anyone gets offended by taunting. I think taunting is often hilarious. I sometimes get upset when I lose, but it’s extremely rare that a taunt makes me angrier. Even if Im on the losing end, I can’t help but laugh (at least somewhere deep on the inside) after getting receiving a beasting or some such epic loss to a Ken and then seeing his ridiculous taunt. If anyone here beats me really bad with Ken, which I’m sure will happen at some point, by all means, taunt the shit out of me!

thanks, poe. but please, bro, I really genuinely like you, and for that reason, I think it would be best to cool it on defending me.

you are a well-liked and popular guy, if you take my side at all, you may be disliked for it.

let them throw stones and pick on me all the way. I have been shown to take it and can, all day long. but you, poe, you don’t need to post another single word for me, brother. I’m not asking you to join the bandwagon, but I want you to be well accepted in the 3s community like I want all my friends to be. don’t blow that opportunity on a nobody.

but yeah…with me saying this, Loius is truly a huge troll. He talks shit on every new player and dogs them to quit 3s on ggpo. I stand up for them, the trolls attack me. I’m used to it.

and Poe, your gameplay is getting better and better. play me in some big sets so we can up your gameplay even more.

huh? I never said I didn’t respect his gameplay, I just dislike him as a person is all. he is a cocky asshole.

he started talking shit on here about me way before I even knew who the fuck he is. but then I realized why. because I played and beaten him and taunted him for taunting newbs.

ryan can play who he wants and I don’t care. in my experiences in rooms he has been in or is host of, he is playing newbs and far worse players than him or myself.

my honest opinion is that ryan and me are equal in gameplay, but he takes the advantage on being good with more characters than one.

well, when I played these guys on ggpo on comp, they taunted after a match out of disrespect and then talked mad shit on them in the lobby.

I might talk shit on those who talk shit on me, but I welcome new players and others trying to get better at 3s.

Less talk more play…

A few things dude:

It does come off that you’re whiteknighting him. And it’s not so much about skill but Artayes (how could I put it) writing a check his ass can’t cash. It’s not a question of skill, it’s respect and common sense. Artayes has never earned respect. He talks shit and doesn’t back it up. Refuses OFFLINE challenges. And etcetera.

If he’s been cool with you than alright great, good for you. But for everyone else, he’s been something of a douche. Other people have verified Artayes sending rage messages to them. What does this tell you? I’m just saying. Just think about the situation for a second.

That said I don’t think I post negative shit all the time. I posted fighting those two scrubs on PSN because I thought it was funny more than anything else, and that one guy sounded exactly like Triforce. If you checked some of the shit I post in the 3S forum I do help out, I do put in some helpful advice. So I don’t really know where this perceived negativity comes from.

You’re welcome, dude. Part of why I stressed the “X is true, anyone who doesn’t already see that is a fucking idiot” as my motivation is I didn’t want you to feel awkward about it in any way. Appreciate all you said… Ugh, I have learned so much from the SRK boards, but sometimes I think I should avoid more than dipping my toes in the more technical threads every once in a while. I’ve been a forum addict off and on for a decade, and the more often I regret getting sucked into people’s opinions and then lose interest for long periods of time. Especially on here where I actually know people, it becomes obvious to me that I’m such a fucking Libra - I just want everyone to get along. Somehow, I think that’s a lost cause on SRK… lol.

If Artayes is telling me I should consider toning it down, I think I should retire from the thread hahahaha

We will definitely get in a set… Glad to hear you say you do respect Ryan’s play, and it does seem like it more in these newer posts. Who knows what I was remembering from earlier in the thread. I’ll go back and read the whole thing again nowOH WAIT FUCK NO

All of you guys suck compared to me, except those of you who can beat me, yall are godlike, except for when I beat you in which case you’re free, oh and when you win it was hella laggy. ::Ken taunt::

how many lies do you have to tell to make yourself look good and me look bad? who is ‘‘verifying’’ i send hate mail?? I don’t do this shit at all. first of, it doesn’t appeal to me. second off, I hate writing messages on xbox live

Ok, I will once again skip over addressing how dumb I think the term “whiteknighting” is… I should have ceased to say anything positive about Artayes after a post or two I guess. No idea about rage mail or whatever, and as I addressed in that last post, I would never want to respond the way he is to some of these things, or to come across the way he comes across in some of the posts. But yeah, he’s always been a cool dude to me and my friends. What can I say, it’s a contradiction. The SRK forums and just certain attitudes in the FGC have just been bumming me out a lot lately, and I guess I unloaded a lot of that into this thread.

Oh well! After Evo, I’m going back to school and I won’t have nearly as much time to devote to SF, and most of the time I have will be spent playing the best matches I can and improving/challenging myself as much as possible, not reading the SRK forums.

As for what I said about you, I’m not going to go back and recount specific instances, but I’ve definitely felt like many of your posts express dissatisfaction and cynicism, and that could be my incredibly skewed interpretation but if you don’t want to come across that way, maybe it’s something to think about going forward. A lot of it has to do with the fact that I’m to this day very upset by the lack of enthusiasm 3SOE received all across the board. Spent years playing SF4 even though I knew I would prefer a more challenging game, fell in love with this one immediately, people supported it at Next Level for two weeks and the port just gets hated on. Most people weren’t even happy about the patch. Thought everyone would be hype for the international 3SOE tourney which probably has big prizes, but nope. Some of that stuff is understandable, but I’m tired of listening to the general consensus on so many issues where the general consensus and I just don’t agree.

What the hell were we talking about? Oh yeah, that money match. I still want to see it!!!

You may be a little sensitive. I don’t know. I know I came off as an asshole a few times but I apologized. I don’t think I got a chance to apologize to Igloobob but I’m going to take a moment to say I’m sorry right here: I’m sorry for being an asshole. You know when you’re pissed off and someone acts polite and it pisses you off even more? Yeah, that can happen.

Is 3SOE the worst port evaaarrrr? No, but it should’ve been better. A helluva lot better than what we got. Keep in mind that I bought a PS3 specifically for 3SOE and KOF13. Thank god for 13 though even though the online could’ve been better too but overall I’d rate the experience better than 3SOE. Thank god that IG is patching the game.

I think it’s extremely safe to say that I am on the sensitive side and you are on the _______ side (I will let you fill in the blank with a term that you like - because I’m sensitive! :D). Both have their pros and cons.

Wow, good stuff Louis… I still don’t take your opinion seriously, but if you keep this up, who knows?

Yeah, there’s good learning to be had, within text walls that aren’t run around I messages we didn’t ask for. Don’t trip, its prob a young people thing you can’t help yourself.
Even the “Why are you trying to play Sean, turn back now! Okay fine if you’re staying here is Sean, in detail every normal special, super, etc.”

(Sorta being the know it all also talk too much) I will interject to try to stop this. Having stopped a buncha run around recently in the most egregious thread around here, Sticky Topic, 100 posts an hour, Marvel 3 Off Topic of all things, I got matchup experience.

Of course not everyone is going to be friends around here.
Nor do we need to be caught inbetween people. Instigate.
“Yo Poe, here we go with the Ryan/Artayes beef again, we are not a part of, damn.” As Artayes enters a room, Vampire zombie hours, with mic on to trash talk someone not in the room, nor would they maybe even know yet since subconsciously its always on his mind - so I muted as it seemed to be a convo for you and him only, with 3 other peeps who do not need to learn the hardass possibly dead end road of 3s yet, in “Get to a certain point, be a trash talking dynamo. Plateau and don’t seek new challenges” Especially if they’re never going that way.

This game more than any other can humble you. You will look stupid, retarded, look like a masher in the face of your gameplan going in, gets shut down within 2 mixups, 80% down, only 91 on the clock.
All in the experience of the other player. We need to be humbled to see how much farther we have to go. Hard lesson, pick your shit up, get better beyond that guy you just couldn’t do damage to in any capacity last time.

You can even laugh it off,
Pizza Beast, laugh during, laugh with Nuki / Rockefeller.
There’s other ways to take it than being curb stomped and slow to get up.
Be stronger next time, be solid in every aspect, so you don’t eat the game ending jump in ever, anti air that, take care of it everywhich way. You dictate the pace of the match. Force everything your character can do in his face.


Artayes

— has been a local hero forever, hasn’t been his prerogative to go to EVO, get to Japan*, test his skills on those arenas. Which is fine. I’ve tried to stay nuetral on it, so gave him his props just the same if I’ve ever slighted him on here among a flammable arena of onlookers, but hope he doesn’t teach more guys the school of Artayes, OrejaVanGogh there being a protege of Spin Knuckle advantage and missing frames blockstrings made even tighter online. NECRO LEADERBOARDS RANKS #1,2. We da bess. [details=Spoiler](Dander is the bess. Look how smooth he interjected how much ballin’ he is at this game in his text bomb, didn’t CAPS my name like MF DOOM tho)[/details]
So he’s more to the side of only thru in game experience and matchups more than constantly needing new advantages learned in being a training mode warrior, he’s content with where he stands in his knowledge of self and character, playing the person. Auto-pilot will happen without players to push you to your limits, he has truths in his posts too such as that. Just the same he should get respect for being around, years ago still in Necro forums sharing things he’s learned for the benefit of anyone else wanting to learn a tricky character, unconventional, for some type of people only to main. So there will no doubt be less info out there, less people available to learn from.

  • you can tell he was behind on his who’s KO, Nica KO? Yun? Yang. We may not all have time to follow the very fun Japanese scene but that was particularly telling, if just a small fluke on his part. Tripped up by Japan/American names players.

Ryan

— is famous and infamous the same. The best thing to come out of all this is any breaking the shell of being the “hardass online personality, give up no ground to anyone,” in both respecting and olive branch giving to Artayes, while also letting us in - into his personal training regimens and where you should place yourself beyond only learning combos. Use all these grand resources available, not taking them for granted, and still is humble to his placement in the world of Street Fighter 3. While it may have taken a ridiculous amount of Japan aided help, getting a mentor out there might be impossible on your own. While you get smashed daily on the regular as the Japan styled “outsider/gaijin/nail sticking out to get hammered,” though breaking thru in the same hobby and lifestyle outlook as these guys will warm them up to you for lifelong friendships. Stay true to yourself and let the chips fall where they may.

That was way wordy, esoteric Japan starry eyed. Guess there’s a lot already said about Ryan, can be done better by those who know more, so it won’t have to be retreaded.

The point is these guys are 3s lifers to recognize, and even between them no mutual respect right now, it will be a shame if this turns into some Pacquiao vs Mayweather type of deal. Though I hope you guys, “stay in your prime” longer. :cool:

Look, stop doing the run around based on lurk and olllldd posts in jest to give himself a bigger challenge.

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Though for that “Rate my combo thread” I got a good one of some Q for a , lol "3rd Strike Online Edition, SELECTED SCENE, “names withheld to protect the innocent”

If it takesa mediator to do it, which is best, then do so. Character lock, whatever, best of 10 total games, up to 15, whatever is the flavor you’re confident in or lacking confidence - or being smart with your money if there are no backers and its only you, or if there are and you don’t want to let people down. This is only between you guys to determine. The SF2 AfroLegends vs Damdai one is still ongoing while Poe would be like me in the ongoing living vicariously thru the entire scene, Fanatiq big $$$ shark took some money off a youngin’ who wasn’t ready. Yes there’s handicaps and making it in your favor however slightly, so go in smart, do not get baited by outside pressures.

As an aside
To bring life into the EVO 3s scene, the doubles year was interesting though it didn’t get spotlight.

if you have to do that too, if dj b00ty is on your side and such, Artayes, that could be interesting just the same.

But in American style rather than Pokemon/whatever, S.B.O. which let me and my brother down on

Didn’t happen. :frowning: We pulled for Deshiken. Perfect Green health bar color Ken over the “renowned superstar” youtube hero.

*(SBO trips, before/around SF4 release, check those archives Poe. Or SRK story of Kuroda is hilarious)

This was 4 times longer than the Marvel 3 one on teaching Shenanigans/fradulence? to an audience with no idea the words but the concept in their game being cheap, salt salt salt, mad, monday morning Quarterback. Good.
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