Do u really enjoy this game? Like you love it and will play it even when sf5 comes our and everyone moves on?
otori
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I don’t see your point. Depends on if I still find people to play it with.
It’s like that “stop liking what I don’t like” meme. People enjoy different things. Infiltration said on stream that SFV, the game everyone is hyping up and has hopes for, is awkward and slow. Does his opinion affect your enjoyment of the game at all?
I’ve ended up kind of liking it, sure, I’m tired of the nerfs and all that but whatever, if it was for me we’d still be playing MvC2, everyone has their own taste. But play out this scenario in your mind: SF5 doesn’t get an arcade release, Japan keeps playing SF4, then it does good at next year’s EVO and boom, the game suddenly stays competitive.
Ultimately the community is the one who decides what gets played at tournaments, no matter how much Capcom wanted us to play SFxT that thing still died after Infil won his car, no matter how much Nintendo wanted Melee dead it stays alive until today, what makes you guys think Capcom can decide whether or not SF4 ends up getting played?
I was asking a simple question, nowhere did I try to make a point or tell anybody to stop liking SF4. I know you’re king of the SF4 defense force, and that’s fine, just don’t preach that shit to me. At one point, I considered this game “ok” (I never loved it like I do HF/ST or CvS2). My enjoyment of the game had become almost nonexistent over the last few years, and so I’m happy that this will no longer be the “main” game.
Like I said, you guys have a right to your opinions and thinking the game is good is perfectly fine. I’m just saying I will not miss it if it happens to die in the next year or two.
Ah, don’t take me wrong, I’m jumping ship as soon as I have my copy of SF5 in my hands.
I just wouldn’t mind joining SF4 if it’s at EVO and I manage to get there.
Pertho
87
And SF4 has continually had compelling matches at a tournament level and exhibited a greater amount of character variety than other games. One could argue for days about the why’s of the latter but the former has kind of spoken for itself. Doesn’t matter how much people hate SF4. As far as tournament goes, it has really delivered in matches won through spacing and quality play.
The game may be devoid of personality and completely missing in anything that could give it any sort of charm, but this sure as fuck isn’t either CE, Alpha 1 or Capcom Fighting Jam. Its just a middle of the road kind of game.
The game is interesting to watch at a high level, no doubt about that; however, it’s not as interesting as other (better) SF games, and its not very fun to play either (ofc this is all imo). Like I said, it’s not a horrible game, and I still play it maybe once a month or two when I’m bored, but I just think SF5 will be so much better come release if they listen to our complaints and address obvious problems (little faster walkspeed and reworking of a lot of hitboxes).
Discussing and watching this game can actually be fun, much better than playing for hours in my opinion. I’m not trying to shit on this game because at one point it gave me a good amount of enjoyment. I’m just saying that I’m ready to move on is allall.
Even when I spent all the time in these SF4 threads, I never heard anyone saying they absolutely love SF4. That it was a masterpiece, or a great game. A lot of people say it is good, or it is kinda sorta okay or somewhat fun…however usually with a big…‘but!’ this or that is really screwed up or terrible.
SF4 was street fighter, heavily promoted by Capcom, came out at the right time and was the latest entry in the most well known fighting game series of all time. I think many people grudgingly ‘tolerated’ it rather than loved it.
Players determine how long fighting games survive. However usually those old fighting games that still have a persistent playerbase, those fans love the game, are so passionate about it. Listen to the 3s players talk about that game, it is like god’s gift to fighting games in their eyes. Same with the ST players, same with KOF 98 players, etc. I don’t think SFIV has those sort of fans.
d3v
90
And even then, fans of the older games would love to debate this point.
Pertho
91
People hating on the newest game isn’t new. You have to wait until the game goes to being in the old FG section that dudes will start talking about how good it is. SF4 did a lot of things right. The problem is that it punted other ones with such tremendous energy that its hard to appreciate those that it did well.
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Yeah right. SF4 had the biggest whiners in FG History. USFIV as it is is boring, rounds are way too long, everybody is nerfed, and supers/ultras are heavily dampened to shitty damage.
Maybe if we were talking about Vanilla SF4, then we talk about big damage and quick rounds. But USFIV is boring as shit. The oldschool days had some way better memorable moments. Such as classic CvS2 matches, or Daigo’s EVO 2004 Parry win.
SF4 only came out during a time when the world was transitioning from offline PS2 games, to online PS3 games. You cannot deny this, the internet helped grow SF4 tremendously. SF4’s growth was owed to the fact that it was one of the first new fighting games of its time to have the internet with it. That allowed like nearly millions of people to play the game online and then transition into offline tournaments.
If CvS2, 3S, and Marvel received the same internet treatment back in either the early 00s, then the fighting game community would’ve been a lot different.
There is a scene still for oldskool games but tournaments don’t want to support it.
I would love for an old people Evo that happens right next to real Evo weekend
two years down the road… Old Man Evo lineup:
ST
3s
CVS2
SF4
I’d be down with that. Maybe the Wednesday and Thursday before Evo.
True. Let’s just say SFIV is part of the street fighter series even if it doesn’t play like street fighter.
SF4 might stick around a little longer because of familiarity and the fact it will have way more fan favorites than SF5. SF5’s roster will be small at first (and i hope it stays small throughout its lifetime) and SF4 has 44 characters to choose from.
Naeras
99
Biggest problem with that is giving it a name. Putting “Old Man” and “Evolution” in the same sentence tends to not work out great.
Ah, screw it. It should just be called “Get off my lawn, 16-ers!”
SF4 may not be the greatest fighting game of all time but SF5 doesn’t look that good either. They made links easier, input shortcuts are still there, where is the challenge?
