Elena General Discussion

I like s.lp and s.mp. Sometimes I go for c.hp if I’m feeling brave but it often trades.

Haven’t seen anyone mention it but you can kara throw with her s:lk: and f:mk:

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Ah I see they seem pretty solid. But the low damage makes me worried about trades and such.

Any 1f links requires for Elena’s bnb?

very small increase tho

No, unless linking off of c.lk

My apologies for doubting that guy who tiered Elena as “Weak” just before the game came out. I had figured, based on the previous USF4s, that she’d be really really good in this game, but alas, she’s got bottom tier written all over her. Again.

Yeah but it’s something all the same. The f:mk: kara is a bit further

Mallet Smasher forces stand when it hits, which allows things like this to always work:

HP/EX Mallet Smasher, cr.LP cr.MP XX HK Lynx Tail FADC s.HP XX MK Rhino Horn, EX Scratch Wheel [459 damage, 3 meters]

The FADC happens on the second hit of the first portion of the Lynx Tail, and actually provides enough time to combo U1 after, but if you’re just going to combo into U1 you may as well just use EX Lynx Tail and go into it directly. HK Lynx Tail even combos into Level 2 Focus Attack, but the damage there is mostly worse than any other option, especially since her s.HP whiffs on most of the cast after focus crumple into dash.

Man, Using Elena is quickly becoming a love hate relationship. When she works I have a blast but when somebody falls out of a special move for no reason it’s infuriating. She seems so buggy and half finished at times. I was also shocked how lackluster her anti air normals are since they took invincibility off all her normal dps. I love her character so much I just wish they spent more time devolving her a lil :frowning:

Also for the life of me I can’t get her lynx tail to come out consistently! It’s probably my horrible execution but I always get spin scyth, it’s weird cause I don’t normally have problems with dp motions. Perhaps because the two moves input overlap?

Also her stun depresses me, I literally got stunned in two combos by gouken lol. She has even lower stun than Rufus, right?

I don’t mean to bitch cause I like the character can just be so frustrating at times using her.

Yeah, is her stun the lowest in the game? I’ve never seen so many stuns in my life.

I remember back when SHE stunned, not got stunned.

So, it looks like Mallet Smash has no priority and huge hurtboxes. Just had Ibuki’s sweep beat Mallet Smash (Ibuki’s foot nor leg were anywhere close to Elena, but it still won.)

I’ve also noticed it’s really, really hard to anti-air with st.MP like in SFxT or 3S. In fact, it seems to always lose or trade.

Trust me when I say this you don’t want lynx tail anyway as people can fall out of it. :expressionless:

Honestly I’ve just taken the liberty of playing Poison instead, which is far more satisfying. But in terms of AAs they suck your best option is st.mk which can low profile some moves and has alright damage distribution, otherwise cr.HP I would have an easier time recommending st.mp if the damage distribution was a bit better. Like 30,70 at least then you have respectable damage and since you can only special cancel the first hit plus it’s also -3 on hit (Shotos can punish this on hit yo :|) it’s not silly damage for a medium attack.

That seems kinda important lol

Eh, I ain’t playing Poison or anybody else. I got this game just to play Elena. If she ain’t worth playing, then neither is the game as far as I’m concerned.

Here’s a cool bug you can check out in training. Record Elena doing an EX spin scythe. Then have your character jump over Elena and land behind her right as she starts up a spin scythe. Now just hold towards Elena on the joystick. During the last part of spin scythe, you will warp to the other side of Elena.

I had this happen in the training room when I had recorded the dummy to jump in, I was really confused as to what had just happened.

Uy

Yeah it’s awful. The main reason I bought Ultra was to use her but now it looks like it was just a waste :frowning:

Hey guys #1 ranked Elena on Xbox that might soon change, but first off i’m not really good just average and decent but i have to be honest Elena is not a good charac at all she struggles with so many match ups and she really cannot keep pressure up as well with light mallet smash flying over the heads of opponents all the time. She is currently my secondary because she seems to do very well against Grapplers and shotos with the use of ultra W and she can keep opponents out. Just here to say you are not alone with the struggle of Elena :frowning:

I honestly thought I was the only person suffering with her… She doesn’t seem like her 3rd strike reset mixup self and feels half done.
I hate to complain but she actually just seems garbage. I’ll stick with her anyways