Election Thread V3: WEAR A MASK!

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1285927094762049541?s=20

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Gross.

Edit: Looking at the deffinition of Cancel Culture the article uses, it’s so fucking vague that it would easily encapsulate anyone who ever stopped using a product because of a moral objection. That’s basically all of us. That’s not cancel culture. Cancel Culture is when a group gets together try and ruin someone by calling for the end of their career and the ruining of their reputation in some fashion or another and attempting to rally support behind that cause. It’s not “Oh I don’t agree with that, in going to stop using their product.” It’s “What they said or think or did is so socially reprehensible in my opinion we need to rally as a unit to make sure their life is over in the name of justice!” It’s basically “You’ll never work in this town again!!!” But at a national to world wide level.

Poll is super misleading imo.

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I feel like there isn’t much overlap between the groups that are currently showing up to protests and the people involved in gang violence

I also think the feds showing up is going to do the same thing it did in Portland. It’s gonna charge the crowds up and increase conflict. They can’t really go outside of protecting federal property so I’m not sure what impact they could have on whatever people think is happening in Chicago.

The thing with cities that have high violent crime rates is that it’s not like it’s all across the city. It gets confined to very specific neighborhoods for the most part. So unless there’s a federal building right next to the projects or whatever, there’s no way for them to “help”

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Agreed, though when the numbers from those sectors of the city get reported the way they do, it makes residents think they have a chance of being affected even though most of it isn’t going on where they live and this, they’re more receptive to the idea of federal troops showing up to “help.”

Either way, the city government isn’t doing a good job protecting their people, from criminal elements within the city or from overreach by the federal government, and that’s their main job.

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The definition they used was from dictionary.com and they followed that up with:

Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.

which I think is a pretty succint definition of it. Do you not think a majority of 18-34 people have participated in something like that, definition aside?

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What’s sad about the idea of bringing feds in- even if they could just occupy the city under military rule, is that there’s no positive outcome in the way most people would think about it.

The conditions that cause the violence aren’t going away.

Maybe if you’re an anarchist you’d welcome it. Quick way to get more people united against the government.

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https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1285630239087919105?s=19

https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1285631082403172354?s=19

…you see?

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We should be taking these kinds of things as a sign to how shitty a lot our systems are.

They want to open them for Trump for sure, but on the next level there is some concern about not having every school set up to be able to make sure all the kids and teachers have laptops and the ability to hold online schooling in an effective way.

Then you’re gonna have parents who get forced into staying home who might not be able to afford it without that CARES money or some kind of extended unemployment.

And then if they did decide to take care of it for us and make sure everyone has what they need, then you gotta figure out how to pay for it.

We’ve painted ourselves into a corner in a lot of ways that would probably take decades of high political involvement to fix.

But we’ll be stuck at level 1. That’s “too hard” so we’ll just open everything up. Fuck it.

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I don’t know, I dont have that kind of insight to make a deffinitive statement on it. I just didn’t really agree with the dictionary.com definition.

I really don’t know man, that’s a wide age group and comprises a HUGE swath of people. My gut instinct is that most probably haven’t because that’s generally how it ends up actually being but I have 0 data to back it up. I know the majority of 18-34 years olds didn’t take that pole. I feel pretty confident in that particular statement.

You guys stuck in the 60s or what?

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Online learning isn’t an option for every district because you have a lot of factors like home internet access or even availability of it to consider. The laptops thing is nice but then you have to consider that someone will need to show the kids (or more likely the parents) how to use it, bit even then, where does that money come from? This in an era where teachers are having to go out of pocket for their supplies.

Then you have to consider the parents who will have to stay home with their kids and not be able to work, this them losing income if they themselves can’t work from home.

I hate to say it, but opening makes the most sense for a lot of places or just straight up saying “we’re postponing school until we get this figured out” but the latter doesn’t really fix the parents having to stay home with their kids.

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My boss’s 3 year old navigates his iPad better then he does. Kids are pretty smart, they figure tech out easily. I think the internet issue is the bigger problem.

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The majority of people don’t take any poll, so if we use that reasoning, no poll is at all accurate. People are largely similar in a lot of ways which is why advertising algorithms are as accurate as they are and why polls can ask 100 people of a given range and get a fairly accurate answer.

18-34 people have grown up on the internet and with social media, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t take part in stuff like that, especially if they see their friends doing it. It’s no different than kids bullying that one kid at school just because their more popular friends do.

Yea sure, but its still an assumption based on small groups of data. You’re welcome to, but im not gonna make deffinitive statements based on such small sample sizes.

That’s basically what I’m saying. I just wish there was an open dialogue and clear communication.

And it’s still super fucked up. It’s the same thing with how the people working essential who tend to be at the lower end of pay get fucked. The public schools in poorer areas are gonna get fucked.

We’ve been doing polling for ages. People are not as individual as they think they are, they’re largely monkey see monkey do which is why polling is fairly accurate when people are being honest. It’s why you see red States and blue states rather than people of varyng political persuasions spread out all over. Why is it so hard to believe that people who fall within a certain age group that’s basically grown up with idevices in their hands wouldn’t subscribe to what is the dominant culture online?

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Time to revert back to single income family by some means then.

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Agreed. I wouldn’t want my kid going back to school right now, but I don’t see what the other options are at this point unless we drastically reallocate funds from somewhere.

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A lot of people just aren’t having kids. We’re getting to a point like Japan where people are forced to make hard choices and are deciding that having a family isn’t as important to them, and usually it’s people who would probably benefit the gene pool by having kids.

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