The US government is ok with invasive software when that invasive software is theirs or serves their purposes.
It’s not about defending Chineser spyware as much as it’s about not letting them set a precedent of banning access to things as they see fit because those things don’t serve their purposes. I think tiktok should be deleted from all phones and app stores, but I don’t want the government being the one making that call.
Everybody is all up in arms about Trump’s administration supposedly doing “fascist” stuff, well, this is one of the few examples of some actually fascist stuff and you guys are defending it.
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Ultimately, the REAL issue is that we have corporate hands with free access to every level of government. When it comes down to it, it’s probably better for national security if we instead have our software (especially our hardware’s OSes) built internally. A task for USACE, really.
Of course, this task is pretty monumental, as every level of government would need custom OSes on literally every computer, regardless of the type. I’m pretty sure that outside of like, the military and the deep levels of the various federal law/intelligence agencies, it’s all interwoven with corporate shit that compromises national security (with Google, Microsoft, and Apple being the biggest three involved).
Beyond that, though? Let the freak flags fly.
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Seems like they’re still investigating whether or not the app lets the CCP access people’s info. So far Wells Fargo have told employees not to use it, and the US Army and Navy have banned it. Amazon is at least concerned about it. As far as an outright ban though? I’m not sure how I feel about that. If it’s proven that China is definitely collecting data, then I would probably side with President Trump in wanting it banned, though maybe not for quite the same reasons he has 
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I wouldn’t trust is especially after what that guy who reverse engineered the app said about it
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I’ve never used it so I’m not really familiar with it. But I don’t trust any social media, including SRK
I nuked my Facebook account after last election. Some of it was for personal reasons after getting attacked for not supporting Hillary, and I got tired of the toxicity of both sides. But finding out that privacy concerns were confirmed, including Russia targeting people with adds, well that made the decision all that much easier.
I’d be fine with a ban on tiktok if that shit was giving info to China. Fuck all that. But fuck Twitter and Facebook, too. Instagram is cool because people are a lot nicer on there.
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I think targeted advertising is scummy matter who is doing it.
But I remember noticing that after I turned 30, my Facebook ads went from being for dating sites, to Russian and Chinese mail order brides
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Online privacy and who manages everything you click on, search is complicated.
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Sorry a little late on the meme…
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“I think for myself! I’m not a sheep!”
A SHORT WHILE LATER
“Trump looks so cool wearing a mask! How do I get one?!”
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There’s been a lot of backdoors the government has been working with companies to install in their tech post 9/11. It’s still an issue now but there’s so little people who are aware of what’s going happening on that front, telecommunications in the info age, net neutrality, digital footprinting and others.
If peoples suspicion meters didn’t max out during the Snowden chase, I fear it never will.
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Lol what? How is software as a product any different than other things? The US Government has told Huawei to go EAD because they the CCP is even more on their nuts than other regular companies.
So if they already ban chinese phones for security issues, wtf goofy bullshit situation have you concocted where CommieVines are magically different?
Going back to the Cisco example, plenty of countries had an immediate crisis on their hands involving a lot of hardware they bought from that company. This software is not any different from any of that.
but that’s the thing, DoctaMario hasn’t addressed the crux of the issue: if this is a known problem, why let a foreign nation exasperate it? If TikTok is so good as a service and can generate revenue, it won’t take long for some random American start up to take over that market place.
Instead we just gotta let China do China harder because somehow its going to lead to the same slippery slope of who even knows wtf. The TikTok thing isn’t in some hypothetical magical software, its literally known. Hell the people sounding the alarm on the intrusiveness wasn’t even the Federal Government.
This is about as ass backwards as the people who support Hong Kong and support Google as a company.
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dab00g
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But weiners seem to shrink hella fast for him
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It’s based on your internet history, so what you been looking at to get those ads.
Wellman
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Woj getting suspended for that response sucks. Hawley is a fucking right wing troll using his platform plus anything that gets him exposure to push that agenda and Woj only messed up in using the ESPN account IMO for responding and having it be too simple. Hawley isn’t after anything involving exposing China or player rights he just wants to knock the NBA, ESPN or whoever unfortunately takes the bait down a peg on the big stage.
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hmmm. Never even thought of going premium on YT. what’s different about prem?
Finally had to jump into this.
Are we sure that Google isn’t selling data to the Chinese or anywhere else? If it comes out later that they’re pulling a zuckerberg I hope this same heat comes down on them.
I have to agree with banning of tik tok. If they ARE a national security risk, then ban them. I just hope the same will be done if we discover that here but I’m like doctor mario in that we’ve been getting spied on by our own government for years if not decades. That part I honestly don’t have an answer for.
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