If only we could enact Marshall Law.

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We’d have some bitchin’ kung pao at the very least

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Marshall law is when eminem doesn’t let 2 trailerpark girls go 'round the outside.

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Do you ever stop and think about your position?

You think the SARS, Swine flu playbook would have helped? News flash, it wouldnt have because that playbook was designed for different diseases.

The vector for transmission varies widely from those 2 viruses, meaning that the counter measures employed by their model wouldnt have worked as good as you think they would have, and this is made worse by the fact that the supermajority if all cases are mild. When you have SARS, it’s obvious you have SARS, when you have swine flu, it’s still way more obvious than Wu Flu. Whatever model the obama administration developed to counter respirator disease wouldmt have worked. At best it would mitigate, and theres bum fuck chance the response would have been sufficient to actually mitigate the real danger with the Wu Flu.

The real danger comes from the fact that it spreads really easily, most people wont know they have it, but 20% of cases will need an ICU. That means somebody with just a flu, can spread it to far more people than somebody with SARS Kor Swine Flu.

This means that protocols outlined by that “book” would have amounted to shit because theres no way to stop it in large areas without destroying your economy. That playbook does not apply based in the logistical and mechanisms. The Ro value for this disease is astronomically high because its airborne, swine and SARS disnt have this vector mechanism. The only way to stem a disease that readily spreads because it has long outlive and spreads via air is to shut down the economy. Nobody was going to shut down the economy for what was for the first 3 months because the “ecperts” thought it wasnt airborne, and said it was a non issue due to hoe china was handling the disease. So what the fuck are you in about? Any basic knowledge of how this disease spreads and works would be enough to tell you that no administration would have had the means to stop its spread. Consider the following,

Do you know why Taiwan and signapore have been successful in slowing the disease?

  1. They set up their culture to take disease seriously due to how they live and how China fucked them.
  2. They have their manufacturing base in their country, and can react accordingly.
  3. They essentially shut down all entry into the country, and there was no opposition to government action. Taiwan is unified against the scourge and plague that is the CCP, signapore is ran by a totalitarian mad lad hell bent on making his country money.

We dont have any of that here.

  1. We dont have a culture that takes the flu seriously, and your socially pressured to not wear a mask by both government and people. All the media outlets in Jan and Feb were saying that this was just a flu. All the “experts” built their models around the chinese numbers and told “leaders” that it was just a flu. Nobody was taking this shitbseriously except co soiracy theorists who were tracking all the social media posts out of China, and they were labeled crazy conspiracy fear mongers
  2. We dint have a manufacturing base for critical supplies in the US thanks to 60 years of outsourcing. So all key supplies wouldnt be available readily thanks to bullshit policy, and no administration would issue an EO for nazi style command economy until it was too late.
  3. When we tried shutting down the border, people wouldnt shut the fuck up about racism or the economy.in the event that the current administration would have had the courage to do anything more, YOU STUPID FUCKS FORGET THAT THERES A SUPREME COURT CASE PENDING ON WHETER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT CAN SUSPEND ENTRY AND EXIT INTO THE COUNTRY. IT DOES NKT MATTER WHAT HE WOULD HAVE WANTED TO DO , BECAUAE HE HAS A CASE PENDING AND HIS POWER TO ENFORCE MIGRATION IS IN QUESTION THANKS TO ACTIVIST COURTS. EVEN IF, THE CASE WASNT PENDING, SOME ACTUVIST JUDGE WOULD HAVE BLOCKED HIS GENERAL ORDER FOR A NATIONAL SHUT DOWN ON TERMS OF EITHER RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION OR FREEDOM OF MIVEMENT. How can you be this stupid, that I have to spell these things out for you.

What you’re getting mad, is that Trump supposedly failed to act accordingly, there was no action that he could take politically or economically that wouldnt have been a positive outcome, when the “experts” and their models were all saying this easnt a serious disease. Nobody was going to shut down trade and the economy because of a few videos from Wuhan showing crematoriums that were filled. let’s look at what is needed to have prevented the flow of disease into the US.

  1. That would require the complete shut down if entry into the US, including the importation and exportation of goods and services.
  2. Mandatory 4 to 8 week quarintine to deal with the fact that the disease can take anywhere from 3 to 28 days to manifest.

Do you know how fucking devastating that is to any economy? You’re essentially mad that Trump didnt tank the economy on a model that listed 1 to 2 % fatality rate, one that all the experts were touting. No fucking president worth his salt would shut things down over a 1 to 2 % fatality rate. No fucking government would do that if that was the case. Notice how every single government failed to address the situation didnt do so until the fatality rate jumped to pktw tially 20% once carrying capacity issues were added into the calculus. Our experts just barely acknowledged that this disease is airborne, ibe been pushing that shit since early Feb, and it should have been obvious that it was airborne given the spread in the diamond princess case, and Chinas response to a “simple flu”. But experts were still saying it wasnt airborne, that it spread because it lived on surface for 14 days. It was only 2 week ago, that the experts in DC were saying that masks didnt work because it wasnt airborne, so stop hogging them all. It wasnt unt today that I heard “experts” and officials say that maybe you should be wearing a mask because they now have “proof” that its airborne.

You’re mad at teumo for following the advice of our so called “experts”, who have by all accounts have been late to the party due to how slow academia moves and reacts, and how academic red tape and need to save face before pushing science. First they said it was just a flu, then they said that the Ro vakue was not 6 to 8, but closer to 2, then they say it’s actually 6 to 8 early march, so now we need to shut down the economy to bring the Ro value back down to 3.

What you should be mad at, and @Pertho has pointed this out, but you’re too stupid to pick it up on, is how cucked we are by corporatism and corporations in general. You instead focus on the symptom, trumps slow response, as the cause, when in reality its our need to ensure GDP and the economy above all else due to the influence of corporations have on policy. This is how any administration would have reacted to the disease given what at first appears to be not only a low mortality rate, but were the supermajority of cases are seen as mild or asymptomatic. It’s not until the high Ro vakue coupled with such a high case load of non threatening cases, do you realize how fucking bad it is, because that remaining 20% will collapse your infastructure.

As I’m reading this, I’m hearing Fauci himself saying om NPR, that the administration and himself was given loads of shit for closing the border to china and Europe. AMD PEOPLE WERE SAYI G THAT HE WAS OVER REACTING And even said that the long incubation period and its associated lag would have fucked you hard. Secondly, the CDC was never set up to deal with a disease of this kind, because there was no output or system in place that could deal with something that spreads like this. He even says that he doesn’t know, nobody knows if a top heavy approach would have done anything to mitigate the situation.

What you should be mad, is that Trump laid the guidelines and foundation for sending troops into the Mexico with the EO he passed yesterday. Or how hes expanding the war on drugs. You should also be fucking livid about he laid the groundwork for waging war against Venezuela by how they classified Venezuela, yet arent doing the same to China which is respo sible for flooding thr US with Fenatyl. You should be fucking livid that Zion Don still has the time to shill for Israel by doing Israel’s dirty work in Iran.

But no, stay mad at Teumo over shit out of his control because of how we set up society, and how cucked we are by international bankers and multi nationals that would collapse if push the pause button because we are driven by a debt driven system based in continuously compounded interest in which every single second makes money for all the important power brokers, and pausing all the algorithms that track and make money through debt would collapse.

Yes you’re this stupid,

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Even Fauci just said right now that your retarded demands for a complete lockdown like China would be retarded.

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1245836423825104898

I’m so fucking amused by this its ridiculous.

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I gotta hand it to Trump.

Man knows how to cook people. I didn’t know a formal letter could exude so much pettiness. :rofl:

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Well,

If I die, I know my vote was still worth it just for thia. This is the real politics we all should want

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I could almost kiss you, no homo.

If the president took the shit seriously back in January/February instead of waiting till March like a fucking Ass Clown? YEAH!!!

The play book was a all inclusive plan to be vigilant about outbreaks and stop them when they are still manageable, if Trump keep the playbook the virus would of stayed in the city of Wuhan.

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if Trump keep the playbook the virus would of stayed in the city of Wuhan.

Nah. No one would’ve played ball if he was pushing full shutdown that early. Our government is too incompetent to have expected a real response in January. Trump should’ve responded in February when the flu talk cooled off. He fumbled that though and kept downplaying.

Hell he got shit flung his way for shutting down air travel. No way we were getting the response we needed. :joy:

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Well the government being too incompetent is a reflection of his (Trumpo the North American Orangutan) abilities.

Trump is just one side of the shit sandwich that is our government. Both sides downplayed early on.

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Feb 5

https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1225073987639705600?s=19

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But really, Trump never should have gutted our emergency response capability.

And at a minimum should have been restocking our PPE reserves and ventilator supply late Dec as soon as we all saw what China was dealing with.

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I mean wifey always stocks up on ppe during flu season so we been good

Early February was when people started to take it seriously. I don’t think we would’ve had a real response in January even without Trump at helm.

A December reaction seems super unrealistic for the US. :joy:

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Up until 2018, we were even in China working to keep this kind of thing shutdown before it could even get started. Then:

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Bet they stay funded now. :man_facepalming:t5:

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I don’t even know that. Trump’s whole thing is dismantling Federal capability. With a 2nd term he’s exactly the kind of slouch who’d think to himself what are the odds of it happening twice.

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That group will pretty much have a constitutional amendment securing their budget.

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