El Fuerte - SSF4 AE Updates, Videos, and Discussion Thread

Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-05-01T07:01:29.000Z

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0:22:10 Nobody(CA) and I play like 20 matches. Not my best but tried some new stuff and most of it worked.

Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-05-01T07:03:26.000Z

Ignore our shitty xT stuff at the beginning and the overlapping audio.

Densuo · 2012-05-11T11:38:41.000Z

Time for more bad Fuerte? Yes it is. I noticed a bad habit of mine. Last time at sanford vs dieminion I landed jabs to bomb since peeps can’t stop pressing buttons. I land this twice during our set and really only got punished once by a crMK. I didn’t switch that up.

At least I went for an RSF here and there

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Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-05-17T21:04:55.000Z

No.

Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-05-18T06:54:45.000Z

Post videos of your losses. Showing us matches where you got away with the most brain-dead, random and reckless offense doesn’t give us much to critique.

Find a gameplan. Follow it.

It’s online. It doesn’t matter. Put yourself in bad situations and learn how to fight out of them.

Also, block.

Edit: Mod?

protoman385 · 2012-05-18T07:57:50.000Z

Risk vs reward is terrible for random reckless Oki, if that is all you do then you are bad and you should feel bad.
… You NEED safe options to fall back on even if you play risky.

Block…just…block. If you are just throwing EX run out then you aren’t watching patterns. EX run is gdlk, and it is ok to rely on it in situations of uncertainty, that is what it is there for… But if you never learn how to block you aren’t learning anything.

I have to side with Pilgrim… He is right.

IIPeru · 2012-05-18T08:34:43.000Z

Don’t listen to these guys gief none of them block either… ;p as far as ex run it depends on the situation. If they’re doing a blatant jump in and you have a chance to escape and create space do it.

They also make a gooood point we can’t critique a match vs scrubs that have no idea how to play against elf. Lets see how you do vs someone that knows how to focus and forward dash.

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Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-05-18T08:42:47.000Z

Peru, you shhh! Imma get my $20 back.

Madskizophrenik · 2012-05-22T00:51:01.000Z

Sup guys…I have been playing El Fuerte since Vanilla and I am a decent Fuerte player…but of course I have bad matchups just like everyone here. I can do everything for the most part when it comes to El Fuerte’s combos like run stop fierce, run stop crouching forward, and all of his links that lead into run stop pressure. The main problem Im having is that when playing high level players that know the matchup getting in is a huge problem…the reason why is so difficult is because I dont know anything about frame data nor safe jump options…so I usually end up getting punished for jumping in after a knock down since they know how to deal with the mixups…is there a list of safe jumps or option selects…I found one but its from the Super version and apparently none of that stuff works in 2012. And yes I go tournaments locally here in Raleigh NC…Im part of the crew that runs those tournaments and they are called Wednesday Night Brawls and I place in top 4 consistently but the competition here is not as high as other places. Anyways if you could point me in the right direction that would be awesome and I would really appreciate it. Thank you guys.

Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-05-23T23:46:07.000Z

Gief2000, those are the Ryus I hate playing against. They focus, tatsu and throw. Then random dp after you tech their first throw attempt. Ugh.

You have to punish whiffed dps harder than just throw. Run slide is better than a normal throw. He was jumping in on you too much you wisely didn’t Quac him. Quac loses to shoto j.hk. Smart. At the end you finally cr.hp his jump. You adapted. Too bad it’s online so running a set isn’t the same.

Densuo · 2012-05-24T09:09:15.000Z

Sup guys…I have been playing El Fuerte since Vanilla and I am a decent Fuerte player…but of course I have bad matchups just like everyone here. I can do everything for the most part when it comes to El Fuerte’s combos like run stop fierce, run stop crouching forward, and all of his links that lead into run stop pressure. The main problem Im having is that when playing high level players that know the matchup getting in is a huge problem…the reason why is so difficult is because I dont know anything about frame data nor safe jump options…so I usually end up getting punished for jumping in after a knock down since they know how to deal with the mixups…is there a list of safe jumps or option selects…I found one but its from the Super version and apparently none of that stuff works in 2012. And yes I go tournaments locally here in Raleigh NC…Im part of the crew that runs those tournaments and they are called Wednesday Night Brawls and I place in top 4 consistently but the competition here is not as high as other places. Anyways if you could point me in the right direction that would be awesome and I would really appreciate it. Thank you guys.

You have the lead? Run.

Also, look up iiPeru vids. He’s an absurdly solid player and dare I say the best Fuerte on the planet right now. He’s a pretty cool dude too

Phrygian · 2012-05-25T02:35:30.000Z

Gief2000, those are the Ryus I hate playing against. They focus, tatsu and throw. Then random dp after you tech their first throw attempt. Ugh.

Just use the Japanese wake-up method of LP+LK+MP+MK > Backdash after tatsu block to escape pressure.

Densuo · 2012-05-25T10:39:00.000Z

densuo, please post some iPeru vids where he’s at his best. i’ve searched for iPeru vids on youtube and the ones i saw where his online games that seem to be either laggy or he just doesn’t give a crap about the match

also, can you explain why you think he’s the best Fuerte right now? just a friendly debate, but based on vids that i saw on youtube and live streams, IMO Spore is the best, Spab is 2nd and iiPeru’s 3rd.

Take the following with a heap of salt as i am vastly inferior to probably everyone.

Spab is a monster with rsp. He just goes to far with it and pays dearly for it.

I think spore got nasty setups but just find Peru to play him safer and simpler Which i find more appealing to me

X4DRIANX · 2012-05-28T23:08:02.000Z

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Smoove187 · 2012-09-13T03:36:06.000Z

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Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-09-13T21:58:50.000Z

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In all honesty you shouldn’t have won that last round. Chun can cancel into her overhead flip thing or ex bird to get out of the AC.

Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-10-31T09:28:00.000Z

Got bored. Made this.
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x_MannyFuerte_x · 2012-11-01T03:04:50.000Z

Got bored. Made this.
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How come you didnt show any stand short combos?

Pilgrim_Pud · 2012-11-01T04:25:31.000Z

Honestly, I got tired and didn’t want to. lol

Tonight I’ll capture them and make a better video along with other bullshit combos and safejump ‘no sells’.

ugo_2u · 2012-11-05T17:13:02.000Z

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Some Recent Iperu footage. Wow el fuerte really has to be a gamble to play. maybe I try him again