El Fuerte Q&A! - First post updated! - Quick questions go here!

Densuo · 2009-10-08T06:46:34.000Z

Best poke? prolly crMK

BnB if you landed jHP is clHP xx run xx stop xx Fierce xx run xx slide

learn to love f+MK
remember tostada’s invincibility on the way up particularly against fireballs.
Turtle with life leads
keep calm

Head on over to the matchup thread while you’re at it.

whitey9 · 2009-10-15T00:23:28.000Z

Is it possible to stop your run into a Guacamole Leg Throw? I face my friend’s Rufus, and they tend wake-up Snake Strike. I stopped getting hit by them as much but I’d like to punish them with the Ex Leg Throw (which I found always beats it, sometimes the regular ones will trade or lose).

brainz · 2009-10-15T00:51:37.000Z

Buktooth:

i notice a few people complaining about the difficulty of quickly doing run -> stop -> guac

you know you can just do run -> dp+lp ~ kkk right?

same with run -> stop -> ultra: run -> qcfx2+lp ~ kkk

I made some pretty wicked chili sin carne tonight.

Paper · 2009-10-15T00:52:17.000Z

whitey9:

Is it possible to stop your run into a Guacamole Leg Throw? I face my friend’s Rufus, and they tend wake-up Snake Strike. I stopped getting hit by them as much but I’d like to punish them with the Ex Leg Throw (which I found always beats it, sometimes the regular ones will trade or lose).

I was reading these forums and found some text that I saved but haven’t tested.

Some guy:

i notice a few people complaining about the difficulty of quickly doing run -> stop -> guac

you know you can just do run -> dp+lp ~ kkk right?

same with run -> stop -> ultra: run -> qcfx2+lp ~ kkk

whitey9 · 2009-10-15T02:26:51.000Z

Paper:

I was reading these forums and found some text that I saved but haven’t tested.

It works. It’s not even that difficult to do. THANKS BUKTOOTH! (and Paper and Brainz)

Cynk22 · 2009-10-16T04:57:05.000Z

Anyone else having a hard time doing EX run on wake-up? It’s one of his best tools but for some reason I usually get a regular run. Is this one of those abnoxious ignored inputs?

brainz · 2009-10-16T06:10:42.000Z

Yes. Try to input it as late as possible and it should work.

FuriousJodo · 2009-10-16T07:34:17.000Z

Yeah, you really have to do it as you are getting up, took me a while to get used to it.

m1northreat · 2009-10-16T11:46:10.000Z

zangief2000:

i just fought a Singaporean player who’s so aggressive with his Ryu, and he just kept on locking me down with block strings. he wasn’t throwing any throws or overheads at all, just some block strings that i couldn’t get out of.

Any advice as to how i’ll be able to avoid that?

ex run is your friend! just try to keep a distance if u can.

Hanylokyman · 2009-10-17T14:08:04.000Z

I own with El. Half the time. Once i score a knockdown its over, they can’t guess what i do and they get grabbed, pressed, etc.

The other half i can’t get in. My question is, what are good ways to get in with El?

I only that crouching HP is his best anti-air and f+MK is great to link to grab.

System_1 · 2009-10-26T10:59:35.000Z

Hey so i have been wondering for sometime, but why is El Fuerte so low on the tier list? Is he really that bad? I really like playing him, but with him being so low it make me question if I should really main him or not.

Densuo · 2009-10-26T11:19:33.000Z

ghoro:

Hey so i have been wondering for sometime, but why is El Fuerte so low on the tier list? Is he really that bad? I really like playing him, but with him being so low it make me question if I should really main him or not.

His only damaging combo is the RSF. which is difficult to do. Otherwise his damage is very low.

El Fuerte has low stamina, his room for error is small. which makes what follows below a big deal.

El Fuerte has a lot of slow normals, this makes it easier to pressure him with block strings as well as on his wake ups

besides FA Crumple, Ultra can be landed only when an opponent makes a poor jump-in or high recovery move. several characters like Ryu and Cammy have moves that alter their airborne trajectory, thus negating an opportunity for big damage, something a high tier like Ryu doesnt have to worry about as he has several ways to land the ultra.

He has some moves that are useless, namely Target Combo, and Gordita Sobat

Fuerte doesn’t suck. But he just has to work for his wins far more then high tiers have to.

Utsusemi · 2009-10-30T13:19:16.000Z

God I’m such a scrub, I don’t understand crossovers at all… What does it mean when I’m getting SRK’d/Ultra’d out of my crossovers? I’m talking elbow, tortilla, everything. Any tips on getting the timing right? thanks

edit: also I have trouble getting the right spacing to connect the elbow as a cross over, usually it will look like it’s going to hit them but it whiffs anyway, it’s pretty bad against skinnier characters like the shoto’s, vega, ect.

System_1 · 2009-11-04T03:22:34.000Z

Sup guys. Does Fuerte have any safe ways to deal chip damage? Is Habanero Splash safe if done from a certain range?

:u: Dude above me, it means your x-up wasn’t tight OR your opponent got auto-correct with an invincible reversal. I am sure Fuerte has set-ups similar to Viper, where he:

can time and space his stuff correctly in such a way to hit dps and such on their backside as they are rising and have lost their start-up invinc; and doesn’t Fuerte have start-up invinc on his dpKK? I think some guys use this to actually grab ppl out of dps after the invinc collision has ended, but I am not 100% sure and it is hella advanced

Takes experience with learning that timing and spacing, but I am sure there is a model Fuerte around on these boards to learn from. Check the vid thread.

System_1 · 2009-11-11T10:00:09.000Z

Fake safe tortilla

hello…i’m new here n already watch brainz vid n there he can pull out a FAKE SAFE TORTILLA into a crossup HP…may i know how did he do it???
i’m really curious about it…thx before for reply my question.

FuriousJodo · 2009-11-11T10:20:07.000Z

Just runback, stop with LP, and then jump towards the person, if you get the distance right you can land an HP that will cross-up. It just looks kind of like a Tortilla and fools most people.

System_1 · 2009-11-11T11:38:20.000Z

FuriousJodo:

Just runback, stop with LP, and then jump towards the person, if you get the distance right you can land an HP that will cross-up. It just looks kind of like a Tortilla and fools most people.

wooohhoooo…just simple as that heh??ok2…thx a lot for the info man!!! i gonna try learn it.

ADVIII · 2009-11-13T11:39:43.000Z

Densuo:

Best poke? prolly crMK

BnB if you landed jHP is clHP xx run xx stop xx Fierce xx run xx slide

learn to love f+MK
remember tostada’s invincibility on the way up particularly against fireballs.
Turtle with life leads
keep calm

Head on over to the matchup thread while you’re at it.

I looked your post and you just answered my question.I’m starting to learn El Fuerte as well.:tup:

MASTER_OF_DA_FIST · 2009-11-17T02:08:03.000Z

Could someone please explain the RSF? I’m stuck on hard lvl 5 and I have no idea how to link three firece punches. Thanks in advance.

Torp · 2009-11-17T03:02:05.000Z

MASTER_OF_DA_FIST:

Could someone please explain the RSF? I’m stuck on hard lvl 5 and I have no idea how to link three firece punches. Thanks in advance.

There is an entire stickied thread about how to perform the RSF. If you still have problems after reading that, you can ask in there.