EA vs Marvel

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OMGZ! :rock: :nunchuck: :rock:

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Fuck. >:(

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This game better be one the same level as Tekken 5.

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this game wont even be close to tekken 5. Ill say this again fuck you EA!!

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GS: Where did you turn for inspiration?

DA: This team is full of comic nuts AND FIGHTING GAME EXPERTS. We looked at just about every fighting game you can imagine for inspiration.

Yuh huh. :rolleyes:

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You people are fuckin WHINERS. Let’s review the article, shall we?

  1. They’re trying to make a game with, “a really deep and complex fight system.”

  2. The team played and used Capcom 2D fighting games (as well as other fighting games) as a foundation.

  3. The screenshots graphically look, oh about 1 million times better than MvC2.

Unless you’re a straight up 2D, versus-series bigot, there’s very little in that article to be negative about. Oops, I forgot who I was talking to. Just admit it, nothing short of 2D, MvC3 by Capcom will make you happy. If you don’t like the new order, you should blame CAPCOM for their tired ass pixelated dinosaurs, not Marvel or EA.

Imagine you’re a marketing exec at Marvel, and EA shows you the two screenshots in the article, and says their game will be developed by the same team that did the Def Jam games, which by the way sold MORE copies than the Vs series. It’s no contest.

Don’t tell me it Vs. games play better. No one making the decisions give a shit. This game will probably outsell the entire Vs. series combined, so for EVERYONE along the pipeline (EA, Marvel, game stores, non 2D fighting game bigots) this is a slam dunk.

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When it comes to fighting games, i don’t give two shits and a fuck about the market execs and i certainly don’t give a fuck about anybody making a “slam dunk” in the sales world.

No but seriously, why the fuck would I want somebody who worked on the Def Jam series handling a good series like Marvel? Def Jam and wrestling games in general blow.

Siding with Marketing Execs (which comprises about 90% of EA) is fucking :lame:

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Thank you for missing the entire point of my post.

Blaming Marvel or EA for reaching out and grabbing the big bag of money that’s on the table is dumb. You should be blaming Capcom for producing games that don’t appeal to the mass market, and therefore sell like crap.

If MvC2 was a million unit seller (ahem, like DOA), do you think they would have lost their Marvel license? Do you think EA and Activision would even have a shot at that license? Hell no, because Capcom could say, “look we know fighting games like no other, and you’re making bank with us. Going to EA is a big risk for you.” But instead, Capcom kept making crappy-looking CPS2-quality fighters that don’t appeal to the mass market (with things like nice graphics), which opened the door for these guys, because hey, the Vs. series wasn’t making Marvel any money.

I mean, come on. Activision has a piece of the Marvel license now. Activision? Not exactly a powerhouse in the world of gaming.

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Coming from EA, people should anticipate a fairly decent game. As I had stated before, they are the biggest vid game company and has probably a lot of money to throw around. Considering this is a Marvel title, they’ll try to make this one hell of a game for all people to play (and not to mention, profit off of). Yeah, they may not have the resources to develop a fighting engine, but they have the money to buy the people who have the know-how.

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I try not to pass judgement on anything before I play it. Still, I wished they would of just made Marvel Heroes vs. Marvel villains or Marvel vs. DC. EA making up their own heroes is really -

:lame:

  • but who knows.
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To tell you fools the truth, I REALLY wanted a 2D fighter out of this. Oh well, I should of seen it coming. 2D is dying little by little guys, the party is over…its time to go home. :sad: :sad: :sad:

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~Born to Play~

As expected by the industry. There is a communication barrier between the industry and community that creates these problems, and I would like to take the time to review this with those that are interested. There is nothing wrong with change, and there is nothing wrong with tradition, however too much or too little of both is neither good. Gamers of old have not come to grasp with what this industry is about, although it has been shown to them time and time again. Look, these business men do not give a crap about what you think, all you are to them are customers. They do not care about how you like the game, they just want your money. At the sametime, you have the power to decide where this industry goes, because your buying dollar is what fuels this industry. They can only make what will be bought. So you have to ask yourself something. People say they hate Nintendo and the Pokemon BS, yet Pokemon has outsold every game in franchize history. So what do you expect Nintendo to do? The obvious of course. Now the game must be good for so many to purchase the game. So you can not complain.

However I understand where you guys are coming from as you are worried if they will destroy the game by changing what you are use to. You have the right to feel that way however you must brave this road or better and more evolved styles of gaming will not surface. Look at it like this, if the game sucks, then do not support it. The Companies will have no choice but to change direction towards the dollar, and the dollar is us. Its rather that simple. What I don’t agree with however is the business aspect of their decisions. We are not business men, we are gamers and they must understand that “marketing strategy” do not mean crap to a gamer. A more sound and practical explination must be brought to a gamers attention. If they are not educated as to “WHY” so they can “COMPREHEND” or “UNDERSTAND” the reasons as to why decision are made, of course they are going to complain. Calling them bigots after they play the one game that LEADS this community is kind of messed up. From what I know, Marvel has been the #1 game for most of the events and the number one game being played in the US in terms of the 2D fighting community. I don’t know the comparisons vs 3D. However my point is “Old school veterans / Leaders of the gaming communities around the world” should take the time to teach their communities so that they can learn.

I’ve learned from several gaming sites that raw blasting does not help regardless of who you are and what you do for whatever community. Gamers…both 2D and 3D, you must understand, that change and tradition work best when they are hand in hand, and binds the very fabric of the culture of gaming and its communities. Look not at who sucks because they will not evolve or who is a sell out for those that give up on the old, but understand that we all must grow and evolve but never forget our origins. It is time that 2D fighting games needs to evolve, at the same time keeping some 2D elements will add a deep and enriching flavor to the game. At least give the game a chance and see what happens. Beside Capcom did show their disinterest, making CFJ so you must understand they are only trying to bring something fresh and good to the scene. Look at Namco, their actually putting something towards trying to save the fighting Arcade, with T5. Just give it a chance.

P.S. Marketing execs…are full of it. You and I both know this. This is only about money…thus making all points completely irrelivant. #1 Reaon why I dislike fighting games, and do not support them. I’ll support the community because it gathers gamers together to enjoy themselves and be entertained and is very enriching to the culture but that it about it. I won’t give a dollar towards the “PURCHASE” of fighting game. Business men… :tdown:

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Sounds and looks better than CFJ.

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While I understand your point, Ink, and agree that Marvel made the correct decision financially by ditching Capcom (who doesn’t seem to be at all interested in making fighting games anymore anyway) and signing up with EA (who might as well have their own mint at this point), it doesn’t change the fact that the game(s) that come(s) out of this deal will not be even remotely interesting to the people of this community (competitive fighting game fans).

While it’s all fine and good to hold out hope and talk about “giving it a chance”, this is EA we’re talking about. EA makes games the way Stephen Sommers makes movies: they’re glossy, market-friendly entertainment, but they’re ultimately soulless, empty experiences that make a ton of money and aren’t remembered past the year they were made. There’s nothing wrong with that from a business standpoint, but for those of us who expect more than just smooth textures and “OMG Spider-man vs. Hero Stereotype #7!!”, it leaves a lot to be desired. Who knows… maybe the poor EA wage-slaves will surprise us. However, I’m not putting any money on that happening… and I certainly wouldn’t be encouraged or discouraged by what some bobble-headed yes-man said in a fluff piece.

On a related note, it seems that you and the rest of the SRK crew only seem to come on here these days to defend yourselves or call the people of this community idiots and bigots. While I would tend to agree that most of the people here are just that (hard to blame them… most of them are just foolish kids who don’t know any better), it makes me wonder how long it’s going to be before you guys just throw up your hands and say “enough”. Here’s to hoping it’s not any time soon.

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lol. Look how doctored up those screens are. I’ll put money on the game not looking even half that good on release.

-Syn

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So what, EA’s making money. I could care less about EA, their bottom line, their stockholders, and same with Marvel. I do care about enjoying good quality fighting games. In this context, that is all I care about. Will EA make a high quality Marvel fighter? I suppose it’s possible. Do I already know I completely love Capcom’s take on Marvel fighting? Absolutely. So would a new Marvel fighter from Capcom meet with better reception from me? Of course.

Why should I give a rat’s ass about the business end of this? I’m not a businessman. I have no EA or Marvel stock. I’m a gamer. I want to play good games. That’s all there is to it.

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Yup…looks like Sammy is becoming the only company with a promising future for 2d fighters :clap:

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What makes you think Capcom doesnt make games for the money? What makes you think Capcom wouldnt make a shitty game out of this? What makes you think it would be better than EAs version? Capcom Fighting Jam?

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Track record. Looking over both companies’ libraries, I enjoy far far far more Capcom games than I do EA. When you limit that to fighting and fighting-like games (such as wrestling), then there isn’t a single EA game I like and numerous Capcom ones. Why wouldn’t I draw on the company’s history to help decide interest?

Capcom has got the versus engine well established. They could cookie cutter the shit out of MvC3 and I’d bet serious cash it’d still be an enjoyable, decent game.

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I actually think it will be good. I don’t even want it to be like tekken5 anymore because it is time for something new. I’ll give it a chance.