Dudley Character Specific Punishes

[Thirtyfour]

**Ok then it was laggy cause I couldn’t connect the hk after my two cr lp… I usually jumped on it or fp… Another thing I don’t get about this claw is how to mind game him from far: how do I know if he is gonna do me his flying grab attack or a regular hitting one, same for cross up or normal…? Can only guess??

Last question: I’m training against a top French player and he is either zoning like he’ll (Ken with cr hk or lk or his other forward kicks but more rarely and he is close he goes air then often grab… Two question wtf I can do againt his safe cr lk since if I go air he has crazy shorthorn reflex and I can’t come close enough to counter with fhp or st hp… Another thing why my unhrag command fails 1/2 times??? Im usually spamming it on block… It means my input are bad?

Thanks a lot and sry for my english**

Aight vs Vega. You HAVE to get in and anti air him with Jet upper (HP) as early as possible his jump-ins beat your anti air normals CLEAN (if he’s good which top French should be)
Back to your question about his Flying grab/attack, it depends. If you’re waking up and he’s going for a safe(unDPable) grab/attack mix up, your best option is to backdash and take the attack, or if you have 1 bar. EX short swing blow if he’s really meaty you’ll beat it clean.
Vega cant just throw out the move by the way. You can jump back MK/LK(good due to the active frames) or dash TOWARD him and Focus that way he cant grab you(unless it is EX which in this case you air to air him). dont release focus until you can confirm him being in front of you, if not dash and punish him HARD you have plenty of time(ultra 1 is recommended in this match up)
If he ever cancels a roll into super. wait til he’s close to you and EX MGB out of there he cant reach you.

Vs Ken
It’s all about not getting pushed around by his f.MK.
Once you’re in range of the move you can start to focus( BE SURE YOU’RE OUT OF c.MK range unless you’ll eat a counter hit EX tatsu)
c.LK? its his mix up just gotta get out of there or you’ll have to guess between kara grab, c.MK, shoryuken (if he has meter
Both ultras work in this match up. Ultra 1 for when you get a lv 2 focus on /DP punish because Ken doesnt need fireballs to zone.

Uhhhhhhh what’s " unhrag command fails 1/2 times??? Im usually spamming it on block… It means my input are bad?"

dont call me 12 yrs old by the way.
Name says I’m at least triple that age.

[SoMoNs]

Sorry I was on my iPhone early this morning when I wrote it!

I have to record some fight against that Ken, he’s zoning like hell, once I come close he gets me with easy combo and if I am in medium range and try to jump I automaticly get punished by shoryuken even if he started a cr hk 0,5sec before my jump, he has insane reflex

So I try to forward hp, cr mk etc even hide grab on my forward hp but still… can’t figure it out

I meant “ungrab command” (X+A on 360) do not work all the time (even if I’m spamming it when I feel he’s coming for) I guess it is because of my wrong manipulation?

Anyway, it was a different guy playing the vega than the ken top player. This vega wasn’t really good I just don’t know the match up at all! Figured out to use mg to punish his rolling since I met him again today.

Besides, I still don’t know how to defend his jumping mix up (read what u wrote) when we’re far from each other, if I stay ready to defend a cross up or a normal air hit I can always get grabbed by his attack (flying barcelone is the name?)… is this different animation on landing it or what?

Just to mention that I have 350 hours of play, it was my first figthing game (playing on stick arcade) and due to live I Don’t know every match up as there are a lot of ryu/ken and other top tiers… 3000pp/8k bp so far still gotta learn a lot but good to see that you actually understood that I wasn’t trolling or anything

Thanks for all the answer!

[Thirtyfour]

Training mode > record > playback.
Or pick vega and see how his wall dive move works first hand.
for the grab (izuma drop) you press grab when you’re close to the target
I believe if you grab and you’re not in range you the get attack
im not sure

If you think Ken’s bad, try Akuma with ultra 1 stocked.

[XeroxHands]

Juri

This is from about an hour of testing, so it’s not the final word by any means. Also, the pinwheels were tested when right in her face, a likely situation on her wakeup. These are all done from crouch blocking.

Light pinwheel Stand HK, cr. lp > Stand HK (a little easier timing), cr. lp > lp mgb (stays in), Ultra 1, Ultra 2
Medium Pinwheel Stand HK, Stand Fierce, Medium punch xx med mgb, Ultra 1, Ultra 2.
Hard Pinwheel Stand HK, stand/crouch Medium Punch xx med mgb (less damage but you get in on her), Ultra 1, Ultra 2
**EX Pinwheel **Walk up Stand HK or F+MK (kinda tight timing), Stand Fierce, LP MGB, Medium Jet Upper, Ultra 2, Ultra 1
All Dive Kicks Stand HK, Ultra 1, Ultra 2

Seems redundant, I know, but maybe someone learned or got some ideas? And of course super punishes all

[Thirtyfour]

On block not all dive kicks are punishable by ultra 1/2
What kind of Juri hits you on the head ith dive kicks.
Good ones will hit you below the shins

[Shonuff438]

Aight vs Vega. You HAVE to get in and anti air him with Jet upper (HP) as early as possible his jump-ins beat your anti air normals CLEAN (if he’s good which top French should be)
Back to your question about his Flying grab/attack, it depends. If you’re waking up and he’s going for a safe(unDPable) grab/attack mix up, your best option is to backdash and take the attack, or if you have 1 bar. EX short swing blow if he’s really meaty you’ll beat it clean.
Vega cant just throw out the move by the way. You can jump back MK/LK(good due to the active frames) or dash TOWARD him and Focus that way he cant grab you(unless it is EX which in this case you air to air him). dont release focus until you can confirm him being in front of you, if not dash and punish him HARD you have plenty of time(ultra 1 is recommended in this match up)
If he ever cancels a roll into super. wait til he’s close to you and EX MGB out of there he cant reach you.

Vs Ken
It’s all about not getting pushed around by his f.MK.
Once you’re in range of the move you can start to focus( BE SURE YOU’RE OUT OF c.MK range unless you’ll eat a counter hit EX tatsu)
c.LK? its his mix up just gotta get out of there or you’ll have to guess between kara grab, c.MK, shoryuken (if he has meter
Both ultras work in this match up. Ultra 1 for when you get a lv 2 focus on /DP punish because Ken doesnt need fireballs to zone.

Uhhhhhhh what’s " unhrag command fails 1/2 times??? Im usually spamming it on block… It means my input are bad?"

dont call me 12 yrs old by the way.
Name says I’m at least triple that age.

Thank you so much for the vega advice. I was at the arcade playing against a good vega yesterday and I couldnt figure out why vega was beating st mk, cr HP clean with his jump in normals every single time lol. I usually dont like just throwing HP Jet uppers without meter but in this case I definitly will

[SoMoNs]

Hello gentlemen,

I haven’t been there for a while.

Didn’t see you answered me Thiryfour so I have to thanks you
I take this opportunity to ask you if someone could link me the thread where there was all the blockstrings doable with dudley?

Thanks a lot!
Enjoy AE

[Darkyellow]

You can EX MGB both of Vega’s backflips. Just learn the timing, otherwise you will go through him. Vs. Ken stepkick throw out st. roundhouse buffered into ex mgb when he starts dancing in and out of stepkick range. Every dashpunch Yun has except EX and fierce where he hits you at the very end of the animation can be punished on block with at least st. roundhouse xx combo.

[dull-eyed-jack]

Cody’s U2 ‘Last Dread Dust’ – This ultra kicked my ass the first few times I saw it because:

1. It beats both of Dudley’s ultras, and super even with counter timing for full (or almost full) damage!
2. The attack of his ultra continues after the first initial burst, which faked me out when I tried to reverse after the burst, and got hit with a bunch more ultra and the animation… scrubbeh -_-; ANYWAYS.

On block you can reversal timing punish with:
St.RH xx whatever
U1 U2 or Super

For a counter you can use any version of Cross Counter! A few things to remember:

1. The first hit of Cody’s U2 only does 23 damage if you absorb it with cross counter!!! But remember this effects how much damage you do back!
2. Because the absorbed damage is so low this is best used if you want to avoid the chip damage as much as possible, Cody’s u2 does 97 chip dmg compared to the 23 absorbed! Is it worth taking the chip to punish with a full ultra or super or combo? You decide!
3. Make sure you’re in range of the first hit or you will stand there looking dumb and eat a ton of damage.
4. Don’t try to U2 off an EX Cross Counter unless Cody is in the corner, it only hits him twice for 88 dmg. So unless he’s ready to die off 88 dmg save the ultra for later.

edit:
You can ducking U2 also pretty easily, negates damage 100% woot!
I saw this in the caught on tape thread [media=youtube]YPuNjJ9MVpk#t=0m28s[/media] figured I’d share.

anyone tried to duck-throw or duck upper at the begging of cody’s ultra 2? tuff timing but do-able

[cliffeside]

i suggest a topic revision started by someone more active so the OP can get updated as new information comes in.

[Reewind]

i suggest a topic revision started by someone more active so the OP can get updated as new information comes in.

i agree

[Thirtyfour]

Mellow should do it

[cliffeside]

why mellow?

[Thirtyfour]

why mellow?

he has the vids n stuff

but u can do it if want since mellow got classes n stuff soon

[MeLLoW]

oh, I can do the work, I’ll have time but my time will probably be halved when I start college soon

[cliffeside]

oh, I can do the work, I’ll have time but my time will probably be halved when I start college soon

i’m starting soon too. next week friday actually. if you wanna do it be my guest. i’ll back you up on it if anything though.

[MeLLoW]

i’m starting soon too. next week friday actually. if you wanna do it be my guest. i’ll back you up on it if anything though.

ok cool, since this is the Character Specific Thread, what do you want me to show or make notes on? or what EXACTLY do you want me to help do?

[Thirtyfour]

ok cool, since this is the Character Specific Thread, what do you want me to show or make notes on? or what EXACTLY do you want me to help do?

make new thread named same thing version 2 or somethin (ver.2) AE somethin

list everycharacter
punishes vs everything

idk why people want this

you know what

let cliff do it

[MeLLoW]

make new thread named same thing version 2 or somethin (ver.2) AE somethin

list everycharacter
punishes vs everything

idk why people want this

you know what

let cliff do it

oh. oh but I have vids of those, and it really doesn’t need a thread imo. Except for the fact that the OP isn’t active and never edits. idk, if cliff does it then ill just post the videos. man idk, idk let me know. im confused now.

[cliffeside]

ok cool, since this is the Character Specific Thread, what do you want me to show or make notes on? or what EXACTLY do you want me to help do?

all i had planned was just redoing this thread but add a lot more details and organize it. like have every char in a spoiler box and list their moves and how to punish them and w.e. and if new stuff are found out i was gonna update the OP to add it. basically i wanted to do it in a way that anyone could just pull up the thread on the fly and find the info they wanted quickly instead of having to search through all the clutter to find it.