Drawing/Sketching fundementals thread

newmastersacademy.org is having an amazing cyber monday deal today.

I dont know if you guys like .pdf files or not but,
This is a really great resource. Still skimming through it but I think I’ll try buying it later.
(Broke the link on purpose.)

https:// dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17531769/Anatomy%20for%20Sculptors.pdf

Remove space after https://

Thanks, but I’m finding it hard to connect the broken link.

I need some help. For my life drawing group I’m thinking about setting up a projector which projects a clock face or timer onto the wall that times each pose. it’s start from 20 poses at 30 seconds and ends with 5 poses at 20 minute poses. The timer is started, paused, and each pose length is selected with a press of a button. How easy would this be to set up, and are there specific programs I need to use to do this?

There’s a website that you can do something similar on, I think it’s quickposes.com. Oh wait do you just need a timer for live models, or are you using reference pictures?

My life drawing professor was this awesome old Chinese guy that would just bang a fold up chair with a stick when it was time to change the pose.

The problem is I’d prefer the model to have control over when the poses start and end, because it’s a 10 hour a day 7days a week session not once or twice a week for 2 hours. Maybe I’m just too damn lazy to say ā€œchange poseā€ lol.

If your still having troubles the part thats broken is space after ā€œhttps://ā€.
Great book, simple that showcases wire meshes and general movement.

I just enjoy randomly bumping this topic to see what’s going on.
Been at it for 2 years, my art still sucks but still drawing. I’m enjoying the struggle. I dunno, it’s fun.

I’m approaching my 2nd year as well, the progress is there but I feel I should do a lot more anatomy/perspective/grayscale studies this year, need to leave that comfort zone.

I’ve gotten a lot of neat stuff done recently - loosening up my technique and exploring dramatic lighting.

I’ll post pictures for open critique later today… if I remember lol.

Don’t do what I did, lol.
I did draw a lot, I worked really hard, but in the end I practice waaaaaaay too much on fundamentals and only fundamentals. I know it sounds silly, like ā€œhow this can be a bad thing?ā€, but if you have no idea how to apply what you’re learning or know if it’s actually helping you, it may all be for naught.
I practiced perspective, form, anatomy, etc etc, I know more about the anatomy and perspective subject than even most pros. Problem is, even with this knowledge, I wasn’t any closer to my goal. The characters in my head that I wanted to draw still look as bad as they did with my first attempt.

But you drew a lot! Mileage is always good… right?
Yes and no.
In the end, practicing things like figure drawing (like finding gesture, form, anatomy) only got me better at doing just that; getting better at the exercise itself. Sure, I can draw you a cool gesture line and some neat blocks that display form… but that’s where it ends. I couldn’t progress pass that simply because I didn’t know how. And this was such a huge concern for me during my art journey. I was so concern about how to make my drawing look good that I never gave myself the ability to fail.

Now, things are different. Currently learning animation and I’m addicted. And the fact that my drawings are shit is another plus, cause I see why it’s shit and from the 2 years of nothing but pure studies, I still remember all the techniques provided to me in order to find a solution to fix it. And since I’ve read a ton of books on how to draw the figure, it’s easy for me to get a complicated angles and be like ā€œwell, so and so said it’s easier to draw it like this so I’ll draw it like soā€ and further on. Personally, I didn’t enjoy drawing at first, I kinda forced myself to learn studies and hope one day everything will click. Hate to sound gay, but that ā€œclickā€ was inside me the entire time. I just had to fail, and I didn’t know how to fail because I didn’t allow myself to fail. So now my journey truly starts, and with animation class starting, I’ll definitely be drawing a fuck load.

Just know that you should draw from imagination more than doing your studies.
If you studied for 2 hours, you better draw from imagination for 4 hours and so on. Drew something you feel looks off, like at some human figures and use that as references to fix up your drawing.
Now, chances are no one but me has ran into this lol. But if you ran into this problem… well… here ya’ go.

There’s a good quote that’s fighting game related that helped me out.
When you pick up a fighting game, you see a character and you want to learn them. You see Dhalsim and you’re like ā€œI want to learn that character!ā€ so you start playing with him, and you’re losing a lot. Someone stops you from playing and tells you, "that character is too complicated for you. Learn Ryu, he’s easier and will help you with fundamentals."
So you pick Ryu, and you use Ryu for like 2 years. You play a lot, and you actually get REALLY good with Ryu. So now, you understand the game, and now you can finally learn the character you always wanted to play; Dhalsim. You pick Dhalsim, you play him, and you realize something. You realize, you still suck with Dhalsim and you’re losing the exact same way you did Day 1.
Confused, you ask people around "Why does my Dhalsim suck? I played Ryu for so long and got good with him, but my Dhalsim still sucks."
It’s because you never played Dhalsim. If you want to get better with Dhalsim, you need to play Dhalsim. Sure, playing Ryu helped you understand the game itself better, but in the long run, when it comes to learning your character, you have to play That character in order to get better.

This is a fairly large charcoal drawing that I’ve composed for school. 3ft x 4ft

You can Only drill into the paper so much before it starts resisting, but this is the first of two large drawings some that I actually like. I bought a roll of toned paper to further experiment, along with pastels to potentially add color.

Next month, my friends and I are doing a 30-art challenge just to keep up the practice, so I’ll be doing sketches from life and imagination to prepare for a potential webcomic.

Looks good! Not sure if you’re going for like photorealism or anything on the figures, but as it is, it has this folk-art kind of thing going for it which I really dig.

lmao, you just about covered everything but yeah you’re right. The more we learn the more we can gauge how far away we are from our destination, but because of that some of us get too caught up in wanting to get there as opposed to just enjoying the adventure at your own leisure. Not gonna lie man, I’m starting to envy those guys who can just doodle at random and be blissfully happy with whatever the outcome is. I’ve been studying for so long that I can’t help but be a meticulous asshole about everything I draw now, despite that everything still turns out mediocre though lol. But still, I managed to get a few characters I want out of my noggin and onto paper so that’s always a plus.

Good luck with your future project(s) Pozer, same with the rest of you guys.

I’ve been in the design phase for this character for years, but I think I’m getting close to the kind of characters and stories I wanted to tell.

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/16601718_881817558626628_5906729593358261276_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=62ff54b919581741cb8e2ae1f8a851c7&oe=5909795D

I think the pose is balanced, but I drew her a little short. She’s about 6 heads tall in this drawing.


This one like most of mine are from photo reference. I’ve been teaching myself or I should say watching tutorials. Proko, Alfonso Dunn, Art of Wei on Youtube I’ve found really helpfull. I generally stipple. Crosshatching is not working for me.

Shading practice.

small question: what is a good art pad for comic style drawing and do any of these work with programs such as photopaint and/or photoshop? thanks in advance.

-Starhammer-

Hmmm, good question.
I’ve seen people grabbing various layouts and brushes to get that ā€œcomicā€ look. Sorry I can’t be of any help, but I do see this question get brought up often.

Though, I will say if anyone is interested, Don Bluth is up and trying to get students for his University.
http://www.donbluthuniversity.com/

Site looks mad shady, but it’s legit. Spoke to some people about and got some information on it, seems good.
Spoke with Don himself among some other dude. Shit is kinda cool.
It’s easy to get accepted, I feel (even though some have been turned down due just not follow instructions on what to submit). The only problem you’ll run into is Tuition. Shit costs $10,000!
But it’s 52 weeks learning under Don Bluth. I fuckin’ sacrifice everything for this opportunity.

I assume you mean like an art tablet right? Wacom is typically the industry standard, I’ve used the intuos series pretty much exclusively. While the Cintiq is the top of the line, some artists like Artgerm for example still use an Intuos pro. Best Buy usually carries some of the introductory Wacom products in store and they’re relatively inexpensive so that might be a good place to start.

As far as the ā€œcomicā€ style, you really have to mess with brushes. There’s a guy in the fan art section that’s pretty much nailed it, let me see if I can find the thread.

EDIT: okay I can’t find the specific thread but what I can say is ā€œcomicā€ style comes down to inking IMO and for that it’s good to use a solid brush with a wide range of pressure.

I’m gonna check it out. thanks for the link. :tup:

Yep. Art tablet is what I mean. I’ll check on wacoms soon. You got any particular programs you like?

-Starhammer-