Dragon Ball FighterZ: Legendary Saiyans Edition

Obviously anyone who really wants to could mine data out of the PS4/bone beta, but they are definitely not going to make it easy for you with a PC beta.

Official Hori Hayabusa stick

The composition works well enough but it seems kind of cheap and lazy to be honest, they’re just taking a render from the game rather than creating new key art for it.
Hori sticks are pretty reliable from what I’ve heard though so that’s good.

I won EVO on a Hori pad. Those guys make quality items and are my fave hardware manufacturer free.

Finally a stick.

Random gameplay meta discussion thoughts after going through and watching some more of those beta videos from the japanese one etc …

Cell can actually link his stand mkXn till you get pushed out. Which is actually pretty awesome to know because ive been fearing the game will have no links. But hopefully this shows theres gonna be some in the game after all.

Apparently linking after trunks power gyser takes away a smash curiously. So like vegetas sorta horizontal dive kick piccolos grab and perhaps other moves… Just doing it stand alone even if you try to hard after there will be no smash effect. Although this doesnt have to be a problem anyway really since we know trunk can hard, to fireball, back to hard id assume you could power gyser, then do something like hard, fireball, hard, fireball, hard till you get pushed out, then we know you can do a attack to jump special and a jab will link, so we can use that to link then do a big air combo. Still havnt seen if you can jump special more than once in the air which would be good to know for potential loops etc…

Speaking of hard, fireball, hard etc. Havnt seen it but a thought for someone like cell that has that fireball that dashes forward, I wonder if vs big characters if he can also do this, so hard, dash fireball, hard Xn, or at least till they get to the corner that would be pretty neat…

Speaking of going back and forth. Saw a freeza do fireball, duck fireball(which rolls you back)fireball a few times over and over… Which is pretty interesting since he actually kinda is running away while constantly shooting you like this since you can cancel in and out of it.

Which leads me to actually a thought about the meta, we know you can fly out of block and parry, which should discourage people from just shooting fireballs even as block strings… but thinking about it if you are far away enough with stuff like this freeza thing this guy did shouldnt you just be able to react to the fly cancel out of block to your duck hard since you can cancel fireballs with duck hard in the first place. So maybe then you go back to trying to find good moves to cancel your block parry with. Also said it before but you can deff as far as I can see cancel your parry instantly with any attack.

If you cancel cells auto combo on the last hit with a special when it doesnt grab he continues to slide forward while doing the special

Weird apparent bug where if goku does a super fireball, and it doesnt hit the last hit that makes the guy fly away and they fall down, although they will stand up and visually can block they will get hit. Very strange not sure why this would happen, if it was really because of something goku did or the way the opponent was hit. I watched it multiple times and slowed it down but ya seems to break the opponents guard and is unblockable. Again with out the game cant test, but I deff caught it while watching. Seems like should be pretty easy to recreate to say for why it happened for sure.

Not sure if this is old or not but cant recall seeing it, apparently 18 can throw her distructo discs at the ground?

Also 17 assist with barrier doesnt build meter for you

Gohans rapid kick special even with out EX combos to full screen fireball to combo afterwords. Wonder if everyone can do this so generously

Still havnt seen anyone off hand show if you can do the hard, fireball, hard loops in the air or not like you can on the ground. Ill assume because not intuitive to mash or try like that in the first place though so hard to say if it works or not…

And on a final note you knowing thinking about it, the fuzzy gaurd mix ups in this game should be pretty strong across the board consider everyones d+hard in the air or whatever version they have makes them float a bit and do it. So high low fuzzy guard stuff to low or D+hard smash to hover in the air for a split second to big combo should be pretty good.

Lazy art aside, the main problem with that stick is gonna be the Hori parts. While Hayabusa parts are arcade standard, the lever a bit too loose for most people’s tastes (even compared to a Sanwa JLF).

It is that damn good.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=i8u8V681Cng

Im hesitating to post some of this stuff that ive noticed because it seems that once I post it the next upcoming builds they keep removing it, but I can say I saw a video recently proving what I alluded to that you can probably kara cancel into homing dashes. why this is important should be obvious knowing arcs games in general you can store properties, and even in this game we have seen proof of storing properties after the fact. This could potential be very important to the meta depending on just how far you are able to take it because of what ive talked about and alluded to before.

On a more regular fun note, gohan apparently can link after his mk flying kick mash special with out doing the mash after words. Wonder how many times you can do it since obviously you dont have to waste a wall bounce then.

I doubt you could stop talking about meta theory if you tried. You clearly enjoy it. Plus you are a huge nerd.

Yes, pot calling the kettle black.

I speak truth though. Of course we are all nerds anyway. shrug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsBRxtXfrOg

looks hella dope

ha trust me I want to post everything ive seen but with out playing the game itself I still cant tell just how easy things are to do. I have pretty much entire combo videos laid out for everyone, but if its to easy to do its gonna feel pointless so im trying to resist on posting everything but its tempting lol. If the game is super easy to do everything, and the only thing worth while is being creative then if I post everything wont be worth making videos for. Im already worried some bs will happen again where if this does end up being really big for the game, someone will post it like its brand new and no one talked about it and then get credit for it. And that stuff irks my petty ego. Just like “dynamics” were supposedly new when ive been talking about those etc since EVO. But then months later people acting like they were new, even made youtube videos about it, and people said I never talked about it, and it was new rolls eyes. So lemme guess all this stuff will keep getting posted as if its “new” and then I get no credit and am a liar lol

Why do you need credit?

Just be faster and post the sick tech and combo videos. I’m sure you’re already cooking some, and based on that Sol video someone posted earlier, I’m hype for it.

Fair warning though, I might use some of your tech to climb the ranked ladder.

why wouldnt I want credit? I mean look at how much stuff ive posted in this thread? Even a game like GG… a huge amount of bugs in those games that are even used today, most the knowledge of just the general information besides maybe something like JI or something came from me spreading it around to the community back in the day when i was still traveling winning tournaments but so far back people dont even remember. TAC infinites in MVC3… who was the first person to post about that? But I was showing the ideas off with characters like ryu and akuma and just randomly posted that you could do it with other characters etc so people forget I was the one that came up with it. Theres a absolute butt load of things that are used in video games that I came up with but most people probably dont even remember. And my ego is petty enough to want the credit for it, since im not as interested in winning tournaments anymore. I already did all that and the community took the fun out of it. I already told the story many times, one of the last tournaments I ever entered going around with a garbage bag in my pocket, sick between matchs, i destroyed the tourny marn, combofiend all these guys who were top players won the tourny with out losing a round. And it was just like omg how could you guys let clayton win another tournament again in the comments. I won every tourny I ever entered for like a year straight besides evo my first year on disablity. Why the fuck do I want to put myself through stuff like that and those comments when I live a life in and out of the hospital? So now I just am fine being a combo video dude, or showing brand new gameplay tech and showing off creative stuff.

ha well like I said first day game is out i plan on doing a combo video with maybe even everyone hospital stuff with standing or if something else gets in the game. As it is now ive posted all the stuff first here on SRK so I think that should be at least some proof.

I dunno. I honestly cannot relate. You seem to really really care about recognition from people. I personally think its a weakness in your character. No insult intended. Do what you do for yourself. And no one else.

So uh… Regular Goku and Vegeta hype?

I was hoping for heart disease goku, maybe DLC, fingers crossed.
Fuck this, how reliable is this ? On a scale of Frieza to Piccolo.