i know for sure u can tu the j.lk in mid screen but its when sagat is cornered… i think its gief having a low jump and sagat being tall being the factor… not on a waking up sagat u have to input a stand motion and i think thats were sagat gets hit. once u have sagat in a wakeup state… start doing meaty s.mk’s to stop wakeup attempts… gief has very scary wakeup games… :badboy: