Sick avatar. I haven’t complimented an avatar in maybe 10 years too.
I rep catch wrestling and grappling as a whole more than bjj
But the life of a martial artist is one of doing it as a hobby to improve your health and improve as an athlete/practicioner
Think about it, if you are doing it for fun never intending to improve or get to a higher level you are a joke.
I can appreciate you guys doing wushu or other exhibition performance arts stuff.
But saying a cruddy style like wing chun will win you street fights and is better than boxing or muay thai. I just get angry.
Like you train and you can tell what works and what doesn’t. That is why i love grappling because of all the theories being tested daily.
But that is me.
Trying to master boxing and muay thai is also a lifelong journey.
But for something like jeet kun do or those non contact karate/tkd mcdojo bullshit
I get mad at shitty teachers.
This could be based in how i was brought up in boxing and tkd as a kid by super strict coaches.
“Cultural heritage”
Karate is a 20th century creation.
You say this like martial arts didn’t change western boxing into what it is today
Styles change, wing chun chin straight up coming forward with straight arm punches is a shitty style that has never changed
Boxing has taken points from fencing, and established punching methods
But in boxing your footwork and speed is what makes you.
Charging forward with no real defense is a dumb style. That leads to concussions and bad shit.
But hey, i mean there are aspects of sumo used in judo that makes sumo superior right?
Sumo has been used in MMA before. Lyoto Machida uses Sumo techniques as part of his takedown defence and he’s done pretty well over the years as a striker that’s hard to takedown. In the end what works is what works regardless of where it came from and the problem with a lot of Chinese martial arts is that too much of it is rigid because that’s the style, it’s like shitty bands playing shitty music because it fits a certain genre. You gotta experiment and branch out, Bruce Lee realised this and MMA was the ultimate test for it when everyone came in with individual styles and eventually it became what it is through trial and error and stealing others shit.
Man, fuck this MMA bubble. Now, don’t get me wrong. I enjoy martial arts and I think it’s great they’re making more money now than back when I was actively training, but it’s such a fucking pain trying to get back in nowadays. It’s all fucking crossfit, weirdo group circuit training where you’re practicing different styles on different days, and all this fucking bullshit. Like, I went to the gym closest to me to check it out. They wouldn’t even tell me what kind of martial arts they taught or what schedule unless I wrote down my name and number on a contact sheet!
I get that with this whole circuit training culture people want to do something different all the time, but I want to learn and get better, and I’m pretty sure I’m not going to do that if I keep hopping from muay thai to BJJ to fucking boxing every other day. Just give me a big burly motherfucker who beats the shit out of me using one goddamn discipline! Or at the very least, several different disciplines with a coherent focus so I learn mat wrestling or boxing or stand-up fighting or whatever! The entire point of this was that I’d get more motivated to work out, not to have to deal with the same fucked up gym snake oil routine I already get!
I’m pretty sure Daniel fucking Cormier doesn’t swing kettlebells around or does bodypump muay thai or whatever to get ready for a fight! And I’m really goddamn sure his trainers tell him what he’ll be training ahead of time!
Pretty sure you need to find some real/dojo’s or gyms. The place you went to sound suspect at best. Any good club is going to let you try a class and know exactly what style they’re teaching.
He needs to find a good dutch kickboxing club or find out where gustaffson trains
@kecka find a place associated with golden glory, gracie bjj, or that focuses on catch wrestling
I know sweden has a rich history of kickboxing, so why not look for a place specific to that
Also a real mma gym has classes listed on their website.
I know there are good ones. Like I said, I used to do martial arts before I decided to become a scrawny white boy addicted to sugar.
It’s just that it’s infinitely harder to find them in the quagmire of so-called “MMA gyms” that have popped up after UFC went big. It’s a fucking full-time job to find a place that is not either a glorified Crossfit gym or a white dude talking about the ancient and mysterious traditions of the Orient. Or fun, because fuck fun, that’s what I have video games for.
And don’t get me wrong, I’m the furthest from badass or hardcore you can come, but if I’m going to do this, I need to know I have trainers who take their jobs seriously and will beat the everliving shit out of me if I slack off. I’ve tried the whole PT thing, and positive motivation and a soft touch doesn’t work for me. My judo coach was a giant hairy Indian man who once threw me so hard I thought I had cracked a rib, because I couldn’t breathe right for what felt like hours afterwards. Not in a match or spar, mind you, it was just to show a move. But it worked. I practiced my ass off and was in the best physical shape of my life.
I’ve tried some MMA before and being good at boxing gave me an instant upperhand. In the end there was too much extra to learn though so I stuck to boxing. Especially in the states there are a lot of solid boxing gyms around. I don’t know exactly what you’re after but I’d recommend you box.
I actually got a recommendation for a good boxing gym from a friend who is hardcore into MMA and is friends with the coach. I think his words were “he’ll force you to run until you puke for months before he’ll even let you touch a pair of gloves”. The only issue is that it’s a bit of a distance and it might be hard to make it there from work. Boxing isn’t as big here, probably because of super weird government restrictions that mean matches can’t go over four rounds, and professional boxing was outlawed up until the late 2000s. But kickboxing is fine for whatever reason, and we’ve usually been pretty good at it due to Swedes naturally being a large people with long limbs, so I’ve been thinking about picking that up.
I really like matwork, though.
Matwork is why I stopped MMA. I won every fight until the ground and then it was both difficult and a tad boring to me. Not just boring to watch, boring to do. Loads of patience and body odor and just slow muscle drain. If you like it you like it but I don’t
I stopped since moving to Georgia, I was in a little hole in the wall karate dojo that focuses on real life training and discipline and cared about the history. Everything I find in Augusta is homogenized bs.
Good MMA gyms are pretty hard to find, I usually look for ones that have a few guys actively fighting in the MMA circuits. The curse of the McDojo is real though, and what used to be shitty TMA schools are now shitty MMA gyms.
they arent hard to find. back trace good local/big mma fighters.
I don’t personally care about MMA gyms, they don’t prepare you for real world stuff and are about money most of all.
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[/quote]When I was in Honolulu, I was in HOKK, which has its roots in Okinawan karate. I’ll upload a cert when I get a chance