What the fuck do you think the instructors are doing after every one leaves for the night?
They’re disinfecting the place. Not just for the adults sake, but for any kids training too. It’s not just ringworm or staph that can spread, it’s chickenpox, the flu, or even just common colds.
I don’t go to a Karate Dojo so I don’t care either way Maybe its lost in translation that only black belts get treated that way, maybe black belts that are only used on special occasions
Fortunately, what you say is very wrong. Training in proven effective martial arts which include submission grappling and even basic striking, such as boxing, will help prepare an individual for these weak point attacks you specifically point out.
Your arguments sound reasonable. “Kick them in the balls and they’ll fall”*. These techniques fail in reality against trained opponents because…
If they are going for techniques that cannot be practiced in fully resistant sparring, then they have no idea how to apply it in a real situation.
On the other hand, reaching for the groin or face during a standing or grounded situation? Looks like some half assed technique to lift the leg or push my face back. I’ve dealt with that thousands of times. I’ve had attempts to grab my ears, toes, and fingers, and I’ve countered; that last part wasn’t too hard as well. Gracies dealt with the same thing in vale tudo.
Everything the grappler/wrestling is doing has probably been practiced hundreds of times against full resistant opponents. It works. They’re adaptable.
The grappler/wrestling has really great conditioning. Sure ok, you manage to get in a shot to the balls or face, a “weak point”. They can take a hit. I’ve taken shots to the balls and kept going. I’ve been punched in the eye and fought through.
Sometimes, and everyone should agree about this, the attack to the weak point works. An unskilled attacker can always get lucky. This is why you should always avoid the fight. I’ve been hit by cheap shots (all but one not actually intended for me) and been lucky so far to not get knocked out and crack my skull on the pavement.
Weapons change everything. Out numbering the victim changes everything. That’s the reality on the street. Training on techniques that cannot be practiced on a live opponent and a fully resistant opponent, cannot be relied on. This is proven over and over and over in “the streets” and in the octagon.
*Random aside: Murakami’s book 1Q84 (yes in reference to the distopian 1984) has a main female character who talks about perfecting the technique of kicking a man in the balls. She goes to great lengths to understand what it means for a man to get his nuts crunched. The end of the world was mentioned. In the context of women’s self defense courses.
So grapplers are used to it all? Then why is it banned in UFC if its supposed to be about real fighting?
Nobody wants to get bitten, nobody wants to get their eyes poked out for good, nobody wants theirs knees crippled for good. These things will happen if your opponent is trained to make those situations happen. You talk as if they’re just random occurrence’s YES they are if you don’t have those kind of intentions. The best fighters you’ll find on this planet fight like animals they don’t lose themselves in the name of their art they lose themselves in the name of ripping your eyes out.
Stop avoiding the reality of grappling on pavement
Stop avoiding the reality of HOW SENSITIVE YOUR EYES ARE
You can practice moves trillions of times, a real fight is a mess. You may be able to control someone who is just emotional and doesn’t know what he’s doing but a real dirty fighter that knows what he’s doing and has nothing to lose will fuck you up good. Which is why its best to run or at least keep your distance
You have less chance of running if you ONLY practice grappling, you need to be proficient at all distances. But if its a guy with a knife he is MOST LIKELY going to pull it out while your trying to do that wrestling move that’s on your mind. Appreciating distance control allows you to assess his intentions while eliminating the potential of a random stabbing. And even if he didn’t have a weapon on him do you really want to go into grappling when you have no idea how good they are? It’s madness.
I’m quite good at the sport type of mma fighting, I enjoy it a lot and have very very good footwork. I go to gyms and people want to learn from me.
But the reality of fighting is its not as clean cut as it looks in mma, those are talented fighters who are limited by rules, not only for SAFETY (in a fight? ) but also to keep the fights interesting for the viewers, the people who are bringing the money. Ufc/mma is a business, the more they promote systems the more support they cultivate across the board
That’s Judo too actually.
‘The Gentle Way’ is the direct translation of Judo.
The Ju character in both Judo and Jiu in Jiu Jitsu means soft or gentle.
Then Do meaning way(that is a much more complicated definition) and Jitsu coming from Jutsu meaning waza, method, or technique.
Thats why the joke is the ‘not so’ gentle way.
Ok ok.
Let me try to put it into my point of view.
First, I’m not saying BJJ/grappling is the end all be all. I’m trying to say it’s a valid and efficient form of training that leads to strong and adaptable martial artists.
Second,
Every time I’ve run into someone talks about attacking the weak points and makes a list, as you did, they are using that as an excuse to avoid the hard work involved in training to fight.
It’s not about avoiding reality that eyes and groins are weak points or that fights are messy. Everyone learns that.
It’s about practicing what can be practiced in safe, meaningful, and efficient training methods. Using intelligence to try out new methods. Traveling to experience different types of opponents.
When people talk about gouging the eyes, all I’ve ever seen it used as, is an excuse to avoid training that involves long term hard work and discipline that leads to growth and a strong ability to adapt.
I can see you’re focusing in on BJJ doesn’t teach you weapons or that grappling is limited. It is limited and it doesn’t teach about weapons.
An able BJJ practitioner can go to an Escrima or self defense courses and quickly adapt to the skills required. It’s encouraged within the system to learn new things. They can then apply the practical and efficient training methods they are used to in order to become adaptable.
So you can see my hypothesis stems from the previous experiences that people who list weak points use it as an excuse to avoid the hard work put in by, for example, a BJJ student.
If you are not such a person, then may the force be with you.
Random question, somewhat on topic… Females and martial arts.
What should they learn? I’ve always urged my sister to learn Brazilian Jujitsu or Judo, she’s 5ft 5 so I don’t see any point in her learning a striking art to defend herself. This is only my own personal experience but every striking martial art class I’ve done I cringe at the thought that these girls may have to one day depend on what they learn in the class. They aren’t built like Gabi Garcia so most teenage boys 13+ would slaughter them if they were to be attacked.