Honestly dab00g, the reason you can’t take forms and flashy “shit” seriously is that you can’t do them? In no way am I being sarcastic. You sound like this dude I once knew and that was his reason.
I don’t think its that he can’t do it, its just that he probably doesn’t find any application in a real fight with them. I mean I’ve been doing Tang Soo Do for a while, and the studio I train at does its best to be traditional. The most flashy thing I see is a double jump-spinning back kick. I’ve heard from others talking about people kicking with flips and what not (sorta reminds me of guile) but I see no real application. Flashy is cool but thats about the extent of it.
Techniques are important but they aren’t everything. Experience matters.
In fighting game terms, it’s like OG Mahvel heads picking low tiers and still scrubbing the new players running god tiers.
Practicing flashy moves is like in fighting games beating the CPU and calling yourself a world pro.
When I was still in college on the way home this black dude (I don’t live in a bad neighborhood anymore so don’t tell me to move) tried to knock me out with a baseball bat and rob me (my laptop case was visible). I was aware and turned around countering with my back hand and shattering the wooden bat. He then went into this pose like I couldn’t tell if he was trying to pretend to be a pro boxer or kick boxer. Anyways, after his baseball swing/strike he was already within my space and when he began to raise his leg I already closed the space. Instead of reading me he tried to stop and protect his head but his stomach was open and I gave him a strong palm. The back of his head landed on concrete. After I walked a long block away, I saw he was still lying down. I had no technique compared to him, but his speed, power, intent, focus, and experience was far below mine.
Anyways, I was going to relax Friday but even though there’s snow outside I’m going to spend four hours practicing my striking in below freezing temperatures without gloves.
All that flashy shit matters, and the people who thinks it doesn’t are just kind of ignorant, not calling anyone stupid, it’s just, those stances mean something, and to the people that can properly incorporate those stances into a real fight, I promise that dedication is going to pay off.
when i did shotokan, and we practiced all those stances and proper form, my instructor got right to the chase and showed how those stances could be used to snap a neck in one swift move, or how to break other appendages.
Let me tell you something brother. When you got all the hulkamaniacs backing you, no flippy dippy stuff is going to work jack. Your only chance is to pray to your god asking him why oh why did i attack the hulkster, and at that moment you will feel the power of the 24 inch pythons crushing your will. And whatcha gonna do brother?
Why would you stick around to get a black belt in something that’s “stupid”? Also, I’ve never met a single black belt who badmouths the style they spent over a decade to become an expert in.
The community of non-internet martial artists is fantastic. I don’t get why everyone thinks they’re Anderson Silva online (Ironically, Silva is a super humble dude in person.)
Not sure if trolling or not. I tend to consider the really flashy stuff the same as last combo trials in a fighting game - something that demonstrates technique, but not all that practical.
At least with stances, they can have a variety of applications. Some are for conditioning purposes while others are meant to serve as the transition from one attack to another (see Leo’s stances).
i wouldn’t be worried about stances in a real fight. As KumaOso said they can transition but from my experience as long as you are able to freely move quickly then stances aren’t as important. Also please explain how the flashy stuff matters aside from showing off. Technique and execution is more important than stance.
I think something that should be considered with stances is that they can serve as a base for where you can do a technique quickly. Just to give an example, a breakdance sweep simply requires you to be low to the ground. You could be in a couple of variations of this to satisfy this basic condition.
And to look back at the first post I made in this thread:
Overall, learning Hou Quan has been a very fulfilling experience. It served as one of the few things that kept my sanity together all of last year in the midst of a horrid school year (currently a college senior). I’ve still got some more to learn/refine so as keeping my balance on my left leg, but I don’t mind all that much. I’ve gotten a lot stronger since then with me putting on a net gain of 15 pounds putting me at an incredibly solid 200. As such, I’m seriously considering learning some grappling art in the future due to this newfound confidence, but when I can’t say.
It actually happens more often than you think. It usually happens when they don’t quit on good terms. Similar to someone getting fired/forced leave from work.
I have no idea what the hell you just typed but I lol’d.
So are all of you guys talking about a controlled environment? Anyone here fight because they have to? Examples: Bad neighborhood with constant gang wars, military, etc.
Don’t know if this counts as its not really bad as your examples but drug abusing and alcoholic students that fight for kicks? Surprisingly the high school I’ve been going to has had more fights than usual (3 in the four quads today, about 6 this week) and me getting dragged into one of them. Are any of those examples you stated the neighborhood you live in?
I was taking Tang Soo Do lessons for awhile here in the middle of nowhere. But then the instructor wasn’t paying the rental on the studio and pocketing all of the fees. Needless to say there isn’t any trust / respect left for them and no more space to train in.