Out of all of the quick wakeup attacks franco bash has the best one. It will snuff anything and it has longer range than the others. Bob has the weakest because he leaves his feet and if done at the wrong time will leave him open for combos. The other 3 stay on the ground.
In RB2 you could actually cancel Mai’s rising attack and combo the anti-air fan attack or her supers. Is anything in Special like that?
Are you talking about a juggle combo off the quick rising/wakeup attack? I never tried to combo that attack. None of those characters are character’s that I play a lot so trying that wouldn’t cross my mind. I think that works because the juggle system is different in rbs than rb2. I don’t know if you can 2 in 1 off those attacks in rbs, but I’m sure DG will check it out. If she can do that will that make her better in rb2 than rbs DG? You are the mai pro DG, so maybe you could state some pros and cons when comparing each version of mai or have you done that before? Don’t compare plane shifting attacks DG. Just deal with strengths and weakness of both versions to determind which mai is better.
I will check that out in regards to Mai without mention of the Plane shifting attacks…
Heres some basic differences between RBS and RB2 Mai w/out mentioning line shifts: (Will continue to update later)
Rb2 Mai vs. RBS Mai:
RB2 Mai-
-cr.a has lost some of its insane frame advantage, but can still be “mastered”
-No longer has multifan
-No longer has rising flame
-Her comboes w/out meter don’t do a full bar
+Pro++: Her P Power is much much more effective
-Her comboes are not nearly as effective without meter, taking out her >C <C hurts her a lot…she is to be played differently.
**+Pro++: **She can combo off her Wakeup move in RB2…she can use a variety of moves to combo off it…she cannot combo off it in RBS.
+Pro ++: Feint Cancels help her trapping game though, esp with cr.a and far st.b to feint cancels
-She now has to rely more on her launcher bnb which in RBS she didnt have to rely on at all…blocked its unsafe in RB2 so shes played completely differently.
-Without the rising flame and less priority on hop c and her other normals, she has no effective Anti Air besides P Power…this is a glaring weakness for Mai…she has to use A+B or Universal high counter at the right time to punish you after it.
-She has a harder time getting you in the corner now, as multifan is not around anymore.
-No longer can throw anyone into HCF+C or S Power or (even P Power in RB2)…doesnt work on anyone…
-The combo system Mai has actually hurts her in RB2…quite a bit…Another con I added is its harder to combo S Power with Mai in RB2…you gotta rely on that damn launcher combo which I do not like at all…too risky.
-Another con of RB2 Mai is her incredible far st.b is 2x slower in RB2 as well as the combo which in RBS is excellent due to its range (far.st.bx2) the range is weaker on the 2nd b in RB2 also…this is a deliberate attempt to weaken Mai also…
-Another con- Recovery on her throw is faster in RBS than in RB2!
-Another con- cr.a is slower in RB2, also recovery on Ryuenbu is faster in RBS!! :tdown: Also her far st. a is way slower in her RB2 incarnation…by the time she does ONE in RB2 she can do TWO in RBS… :wtf: :annoy:
-Con-Air Flying Squirrel attack (Down A+B in the air) covers less ground in RB2 than in RBS…
-Ryuenbu aint safe blocked up close…damn…:tdown: ( and no we aint talking about Breakshots!) Hcf+C isnt safe blocked either…
-Can no longer have a low mixup with cr.bx2, doesnt combo anymore!
Final Score- 3 pros of Rb2 Mai to… 15 cons…NOW YOU TELL ME Who got really nerfed??
More to come later as I test!!! As you can see -'s are cons…+s are pros…I’d take RBS Mai over RB2 Mai anyday of the week! She got a severe axing in RB2… though she can still hold her own and I can play people in RB2 with her…she just aint my main anymore…
Give RBS Mai RB2 Mai’s P Power and Mai’s even deadlier!!! S+ material for sure!
I like both games, but I wanna know when Dark Geese is gonna man up and fight me at one of the two games, or even both. Me and my man Kim will take you on a one way trip to down town. 
Kim is in a tier of his own, it’s the Justice Tier!
When are you gonna show up to a tournament? I dont back down from requests in person…
MWC or EVO World…take your pick…
I dont fear Kim…matter of fact I cant stand him…if theres anyone I love putting a royal ass whooping on its Kim Kaphwan…
Just get on 2DF and take your beatings like a man, or in your case- Haruhi. 
Then again, you’d have to travel to a tourney first. DG doesn’t play online.
I dont play online as of yet…as I say…as soon as I finish Grad School for sure I’m on…
And before my uncles funeral I was gonna buy all I needed like the Pelican converters etc…
But now I’m strapped as hell for cash…
:sad: :sad:
But of course money well spent…
I am going to test some more RB2 vs. RBS Mai stuff today and I got another idea about something I believe Mai has that like Sokaku’s Blanka Ball may be better than most of the Line Shift attacks in the game…
Larry gave me the idea and w/Mai and I am going to test it out today…
-Dark Geese
Honestly- DG, may just be cheaper to buy a 360 cheapo stick then get converters, less lag as well.
That other dude, he can’t get GGPO or 2DF to work as of yet, he’s not good with computers.
It’s too bad MWC isn’t a month later- would have had a slim shot of making it that way, I don’t right now. Plane costs eat me up too much now to do any air traveling “just” for a tourney though.
Dark Geese, get your dark butt on 2DF, and I’ll rehabilitate your evil ways. I can’t go to any tourneys, too damn out of the way, plus I hate traveling. Online play ftw.
Although feel free to drop by my apartment, and we can play in front of my laptop. I’ll even provide you with a stick to play with, and snacks too. I hope you like HOT POCKETS!
Can we play on 2df in rbs? I’m always looking to play against new people.:bgrin::smokin:
I haven’t gotten 2DF up and running yet, I’m having some issues getting my account activated, but I’ll gladly play once it’s all smoothed out.
Where are you from/ where do you live?
I updated another Pro of RB2 Mai vs. RBS Mai…RBS Mai cannot combo off her wakeup attack…but RB2 Mai can…
I havent tested just yet if all four can combo off their wakeup attacks.
Con-The combo system Mai has actually hurts her in RB2…quite a bit…Another con I added is its harder to combo S Power with Mai in RB2…you gotta rely on that damn launcher combo which I do not like at all…too risky… :tdown:
Con-Another con of RB2 Mai is her incredible far st.b is 2x slower in RB2 as well as the combo which in RBS is excellent due to its range (far.st.bx2) the range is weaker on the 2nd b in RB2 also…this is a deliberate attempt to weaken Mai also…
non hardcore Mai players won’t notice this!!!
Another con- Recovery on her throw is faster in RBS than in RB2!
Another con- cr.a is slower in RB2, also recovery on Ryuenbu is faster in RBS!! :tdown: Also her far st. a is way slower in her RB2 incarnation…by the time she does ONE in RB2 she can do TWO in RBS… :wtf: :annoy:
Con-Air Flying Squirrel attack (Down A+B in the air) covers less ground in RB2 than in RBS…
Why SNK did you have to tone down unneccesary things with Mai?? I just dont understand this shit…
They must have known she’s too good in RBS…:razz: :encore:
I aint done yet…Ryuenbu aint safe blocked up close…damn…:tdown: ( and no we aint talking about Breakshots!) Hcf+C isnt safe blocked either…
Bottom line-
There is no room for comparison of RBS Mai to RB2 Mai…RBS Mai is the finest version of Mai we’ve ever seen in any fighting game…RB2 Mai is the Mai we are used to seeing in other games…a half hearted Mai with very few things to offer…
I think she sucks ass in RB2 compared to RBS…hands down… :tdown:
Final Score- 3 Pros of Rb2 Mai to 15 FUCKING CONS… RBS Mai is clearly leagues better.
-Dark Geese
I honestly like RB1 Mai more then RBSP Mai. RBSP Mai more powerful, but RB1 Mai just feels better to me. Plus I like the FF3/RB1 outfit more.
I’ll delve into RB1 Mai some more…
Also something else that is strange…Mais airthrow in RB2 makes the opponent wake up NORMAL instead of backturned…once again why SNK did you weaken unnecessary things???
:tdown: :tdown:
She has a toned down LS combo you can use vs. jumpers but damn its weak as hell in RB2…
Another con- She can no longer combo cr. bx2 anymore in RB2… :wtf:
Damn DG, and that’s my whole point about rbs. I didn’t know all of that was nerfed on mai from rbs to rb2.:wtf::wtf: :bluu::wtf:
I live in upstate NY.
And thats my point too…RB2 feels too dry and watered down to me…hell the transition from 2002 to NeoWave wasnt even that dramatic for the nerfing…not even CLOSE!!
Hence I stick to Krauser in Rb2…
and if you dont know your characters enough you won’t see that they are nerfed quite a bit in RB2 as well…
I dont even wanna touch Mai in RB2 anymore after going through and seeing just how bad they raped her…
Yuck…
:tdown: (And remember all this is WITHOUT mentioning line shifts…if I were to add Line Shifts in I’d BET Mai would have like 20 cons to 3 pros)
Tengu- Upstate NY? Hmm I will be making another trip to NYC soon…Bet on it!
Well I’m happy to report the overall skill level in rbs on 2df is rising. I had a couple of great battles yesterday. Check out the matches between me vs A.Bogard and me vs maxato. A.bogard is the best andy I’ve played against on 2df. He played with more characters against me than maxato did. Also pay close attention to maxato CHENG!!! Yes I said CHENG! After playing against him when he used cheng he made me respect that fat bastard.:lol: His breakshot does mad damage and his turtle game is great!
I was using ex tung all day yesterday except once when I changed to krauser after a lost and I picked regular tung by mistake once. Don’t just judge a.bogard and maxato skills off playing against me. Look at some of their other matches too. Maxato has the best cheng and chonshu I have played against on 2df. Very tricky imo, and if I didn’t know how to play rbs I would have gotten killed because characters are so strong in rbs.
I thought chonshu and chonrei sucked in rbs, but I guess I was wrong. Hell after playing yesterday I don’t know who are the bottom tier in rbs. This might be one of the rare games that doesn’t have a true bottom tier imo. What I mean is yes rbs has bottom tier characters, but they aren’t ass tier imo. Ass tier are characters that never should have been in the game because they suck soooooo much! The top 4 are just too beastly in rbs just like ST, but in the right hands mid tier or so call low tier can sneak up on that ass and compete!
ANY of the high tiers in RBS can easily be taken care of by most characters in the game cept by cheng. all cept billy, the guy is on a different tier by himself. below geese, but above the rest.
shin blanka, cheng turtling might be strong, but what happens if you get the lead and cheng has to go on offense? thats the reason hes low tier. his offense is nothing compared to his better defense.
also, dg, try kof 97 mai if you wanna know what a truly strong mai feels like in a kof. her 95 version is tops as well.
also, not everybody got nerfed in RB2. krauser IS better in RB2. chon su is better in RB2. bob is better in RB2. hon might just be better in RB2, or at least as good even with his fucked up ppower. kim is almost as strong as his RBS self. franco just might be better in RB2. cheng is better in RB2. Yamazaki is just a tiny bit stronger. the rest is either just as good or got nerfed.