hey guys heres me in loser finals at a local
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advice is great, 2nd time in tourny playing hawk
FYI to all sim players
use U2 in this match up, not 1
b+hp ground headbut is the anti air for condor dive
If that works, I love you:D I have been looking for aa ground anti air to beat condor dive, without having to do b.mp under him!
i think it beats ex version too cant remember, it hits very cleanly
Yeah, with U2 he cannot do any Condor dive
I think the only problem in this matchup could be the Condor Spire,
that is the only way T.Hawk has to approach, especially the EX version (-3 on block)
Does Yoga Tower dodge the Spire? And if yes, what is the recovery on that move?
are you talking about his standing headbutt(b.hp) or crouching b.hp?
Pretty sure it’s B.HP because DB.HP is a punch not a headbutt.
thats what I assume, just not sure what he meant by “b+hp ground headbut”
I think he said ground, because you could also anti air to air him with for example jumping medium punch or jumping roundhouse!
so just tested condor dive with AA b.fp
IMO its not worth it
the timing is strict and the hitbox to b.fp is small, the condor dive also has to hit you from a higher angle. If condor dive hits you anywhere neck below your hitbox doesnt reach and u eat it clean.
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You should just block it and fp, besides the timings tough and the mix up of condor dive or no dive is tough to see.
plus if u have u2 just assume hawk isnt diving anymore
doing more testing, b.rh is actually pretty good to, buts its all an angle thing. Ex yoga blast is REALLY GOOD looking at it because twaks (yes twak) hit box is sooo large. I think you really shouldnt AA thawk because the threat of condor spire. If you have u2 loaded just b.rh or ex blast (like usual) or b.mk for empties (this is ofcourse assuming hes no longer condor diving)
Gore your right ex spire is definetly the key for this. ive been getting in the habbit of back dashing once when i see it but its only a soso answer. but the worse you can eat is a s.rh so far that i see
(sorry i know this is more for matchup thread, but thought id post)
thoughts?
How do you deal with T Hawks wiffed dive? Sometimes I can’t tell if he will hit me or not, so I find myself blocking to get the free punnish, and he lands in front of me and surprises me with a SPD:S
I am sure he has enough recovery for me to punnish him, but sometimes I’m not ready for it!
yea thats a tough one, id say watch thawk, you have to make a decision bsaed on his arc. but ill tell you one thing. Try to get thawk in training mode to whiff condor dive or dive from across the screen and get ex yoga blast to whiff. ex yoga blast is awesome.
so i guess try to bait a condor dive but unless its PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that its going to be blockable and punishable with ultra, id always ex yoga blast it with AA since it seems* to be so good
*this is obviously just a one day observation after testing
thoughts…
Why all the fuss over dive? Just mk slide under it.
yea i like slide alot, but somtimes the spacing gets a lil crazy. the risk of potential spd can suck 
i also like seeing the jump (especially nuetral) and IAT on the other side, the hawk can either eat a normal or condor dive across the screen
but yea mk slide is great too, just exploring options
Ye the slide seems to be a good option! Btw UltraDavid! Any news on your shangrila video?
vs Balrog
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Damn so much pressure against balrog, I cant keep calm. Any tips for this match?