I hope when DMC4SE comes out, they ACTUALLY FINISH THE FUCKING GAME instead of giving us the same piece of shit with an extra character. 
I came into this thread to check if new info has been posted about DMC4 and all Iām seeing is that DmC got tweaks but is still a bad game. I donāt understand how they think theyāre going to bring in anyone with these changes. 1080p, who cares, irrelevant. 60 FPS, congratulations, youāre finally making the game run as fast as it should have originally, but the PC version was already doing this and it didnāt really change how the rest of the game, being designed around 30 FPS, played. And no, I will not forget that āthe feel of 60 FPSā bullshit. Costumes! So you can pretend youāre playing a good DMC game while youāre playing a bad one.
But enough of the small shit, who thought Must Style was a good name for that mode? I mean on paper itās fine, but itās blatant false advertising because you donāt actually need to style because DmC doesnāt have a real god damn style meter. They should have called it Must Combo mode, because thatās what it actually is, style has nothing to do with it. Just donāt get hit. Infinite Devil Trigger is a joke as well. And with the hardcore mode, harder to get S or SSS rank? How? Does it implement an actual, legit style meter or does it just take longer to get? Because if itās the latter, thatās not very hardcore and you havenāt really changed the game at all. No auto launch on Devil Trigger should have been how the game was before. I get that youāre making baby mode entry point into the DMC series, but why does the game have to borderline play itself for you? Get out of here with that shit. And color coded enemies, the literal fun stoppers, have been made into fun dampeners instead. Good thing theyāre implementing those community mods to get rid of the shit. Good on you Capcom for taking the work other people did for free in their spare time to fix your game you couldnāt bother to do right the first time.
The problem is that even after all this shit and all this rebalancing, the game is still simplistic to a fault, the enemy AI is still laughably terrible, almost DMC2 terrible, thereās a massive lack in weapon variety, enemy design is still awful, the story is still garbage, the characters are still one dimensional cardboard cutouts, there are still too many God of War giant monster standing at the end of a platform boss fights, too many circular arenas you get locked in to fight enemies, and probably the only fun part of the game, the platforming, is still really autopilot and slow. I can give it credit for visual design once you get past all the orange/blue contrast and dark gritty lighting that is overused to hell and back, but that doesnāt save the rest of the game.
Tell me about DMC4 already.
IIRC Hardcore removes the quicksilver effect from DT i.e. no auto launch. They made it increase combo rank somehow. Not that it matters since Aquila is broken for crowd control.
While I donāt agree with the piece of shit part of the comment, I do agree that it would be incredibly awesome if they finished the game with the SE. That would be fantastic.
Yeah, DMC4 was supposed to have a lot more than what we got. Iāve heard the game may only be 40% complete(what we currently have). Nero was supposed to have his own styles, Dante with his own campaign and of course the theory that the reason why Danteās weapons and the boss names donāt match is because Dante was supposed to have his own boss fights. I want Nero to have his full body DT. And thereās something even about Dante having a perfect DT. I donāt recall where I came across this bit about both Nero and Dante having perfect DT forms but Dante succumbing to his demonic side and lost control and Nero with his perfect DT having to stop him. Fact or fiction, that would have been a hell of a fight.
I actually like Neroās current Jojoās style Stand DT, I think instead of getting new weapons, his demon arm should absorb demon boss spirits and he gets new āStandsā to DT with giving him new move sets as if they where weapons when he DTs.
Joshkaz
10407
I rather like Nero how he is now.
It makes him insanely unique and I honestly find him more fun than Dante.
Although I highly doubt theyāll give us all the shit they left out, but it would be cool if Dante got his own campaign.
Edit: I can cosign Neroās DT Getting additional effects depending on what Boss spirit you have equipped.
Hecatom
10408
I thought that the reason why Danteās weapons names donāt match with the bossesās names is because the devil arms he gets were used to open the portals and he is using those artifacts instead the devil arm versions of the bosses he defeated.
IMO the last TRULY GREAT DMC game was 3SE. as much as i dig DmC, even it doesnāt measure up to 3SE.
The REAL enemy in this whole thing is not Tameem, not NT, not even the community (well, okay in a way theyāre part of it) but Capcom. Capcom pushed out a half finished, boring piece of junk that was DMC4, the community ate it up, and now people are complaining? Iām not saying DmC is the greatest game to ever grace the world, but with 4, Capcom figured out they could put minimal effort into anything with Devil May Cry on the cover and it would probably sell. Iād say more effort was put into DmC than into 4. At least they finished that game rather than bloating it with copypasta levels.
What youāre talking about is what I expected. Like when he gets Credoās demonic shield, I expected some new power to use in gameplay. If that happened, I would have been fine with Nero not having any styles. I donāt dislike Neroās Stand DT. It looks badass. Especially when you do a DT buster on enemies.
At least DMC4 played well. Iād take an unfinished game with copy/paste levels but really polished, complex, and rewarding gameplay than a finished game with original levels that plays like ass. I donāt care how you feel about the asset reuse, thereās no way you can say that DMC4 Dante is not the best playable incarnation of the character that has existed thus far.
DMC4 was half a game and the community did NOT eat it up. They began to overlook it because of how well the game played, but they were pretty pissed that half the game was backtracking.
DMC3 touched me in many ways DMC4 failed to do.
DMC3 touched me all over, grabbed my dick and went wild. I never put so much time into a single player game in my life till DMC3.
DMC3 is love, DMC3 is life.
DANZAN
10414
dmc4 would have been a good gameā¦if they would have cut out the entire first part of it :trollface:
DMC4 is a good game. Flawed, but good game. Definitely feels like they rushed it out to make sales early in the gen. I donāt understand that at all⦠they had like 6 more years till the end of the cycle, plenty of time.
DANZAN
10416
I can only speak for myself hereā¦
Whenever i played DMC4 i always felt like the first part with nero was very āmehā , but when it switched
to Dante in the second half of the gameā¦Things really took off ! I was enjoying myself alot more.
Stillā¦The fact that you had to run through the same enemies and bosses again made it that much
less exciting as you had seen it all already. Didnāt really think the enemies (not bosses) in DMC4 were welldesigned either , so there is that.
As i have given all DMC games a āhonestā try , my secret code is as following :
1-3-4-TAMEEM-2
TY FOR LISTENING :CHINA:
Idiots. They arenāt going to advertise both DmC and DMC4:SE at the same time. All theyāve given us is a teaser to know that Vergil exists in the game and itās being worked on. We wonāt see shit about DMC4:SE until DmC: Still Shit Edition is released.
The Nero hate seems pretty extreme unless you actually didnāt like him as a character. Yeah heās not Dante and heās a bit more limited. But heās still fun to use, and his arm added a new element You can use Dante in the 2nd half even though itās recycled bosses and etc. But you guys act like bloody palace doesnāt exist to use all the Dante you want.
The back tracking isnāt what makes Dantes part of the game bad (tho it doesnāt help) itās all the fucking timers an shit. You have 10 minutes to get out of the Order HQ, a shitty fog maze puzzle through the woods, a poison gas section next, the only time you have a second to breath and try and even experiment with what Dante can even do, his part of the game is almost over. Thatās really what makes his part of the game total ass.
Bloody Palace is nice, tho again, timer.
I just suck at killing a Blitz. My issue with Nero is that I would prefer him to be a stand alone character with no ties to the Sparda bloodline(I wanted Vergil in DMC4). Because obviously, there must be other human/devil hybrids walking around or even if Nero was a prototype the Order created.
That being said, Nero has:
-Best Taunts
-Badass sword
-The hoodie+longcoat looks great
-Double barrel revolver
-Best lines during attacks
Nero may not be as over the top as Dante and thus not as fun in a creative sense but I never regret playing as him. I actually like his slim build compared to buff Dante. Vergil is hands down my favorite character, but nothing tops Red Queen imo.