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Everyone is equal in crucible. The only extras that matter are perks that your gear or weapons grant you. Damage is equalized among the each weapon type.

Even the cdr stats dont count?? Why was that level 9 so squishy then?? I guess he didnt have any perks to add to his toughness from leveling yet?

What’s cdr? Defense or power related to gear shouldn’t matter. A lvl 10 is equal to a lvl 30.

Cooldown reduction you get from int str and decline

nah. At lvl9, his (or her) weapons wouldn’t have perks worth anything.

@chadouken!ā€Œ I remember running my ASS off and watching both my radar and the ground in front of and behind me. I didn’t really kill as much as I got killed, but the points difference began to show after a little while.

Oh yeah. Fuck shotguns… N DA BUTT.

-Starhammer-

Oh, yea those perks apply. So any cool downs, extra ammo perks etc. that you get from gear definitely work in crucible, it’s just that you don’t get the benefit of extra defense via legendary and exotic armor vs rare or uncommon armor.

Anyone up for guild raid?

^^^^ Yes.

I’ll be doing some work on the computer and watching AOS in the meantime. Just shoot me an invite.

I am, i still havent done it with the guild yet, what time?

Now I guess…

2 shot kill if one of the bullets is the 33% damage one. If you get a headshot with that it does like 130-160. Normal headshot is around 80+. I read the first ability can overlap with the second so it stacks twice which may one shot someone, but haven’t had it happen yet. Probably a higher chance for that to occur in iron banner when defense and level matter.

We’ll probably do raid tomorrow night.

Played a bit, lvl 11 now.

Honestly? It’s a pretty decent game. Except for one thing. The fucking load times. Oh my god, the fucking load times. At times, just thinking about all the loading screens kills any motivation I might have to pick the game up and play.

I believe the only other hand cannons that can 2hk besides the Hawkmoon, are The Last Word and Timur’s Lash. I was lucky enough to get Timur’s Lash from the IB, the Hawkmoon is unattainable since I’m on Xbox One. A Timur’s Lash with the ā€œluck in the chamberā€ skill is the closest you can get to the Hawkmoons damage per bullet. The best skills you can get on a Timur’s Lash are Rangefinder and Luck in the Chamber. I re-rolled mine and the best I got was Luck in the Chamber and Fast Reload on empty mag.

Here’s a video of me from the last Iron Banner two shotting with the Timur’s Lash. The damage difference was due to range(it’s range is terrible btw) and not because of any weapon skill. When Luck in the Chamber procs it’s about 120 damage for a head shot.

wait how did you do this? i remember reading that iron banner would give you an item to re roll stuff but i didnt see the dude have them. then again i wasnt really able to play IB much this time round.

You had to talk to the Iron Banner vendor, Sauldin I think is his name. If you talk to him with the Iron Banner weapons equipped, you are given the option to ā€œreforgeā€ IB weapons for 2 motes of light for each re-roll. You wont see the option until you equip IB weapons. I hope this is something they add to all Legendary weapons.

Beat the raid last night got that hunter helmet! One more raid piece or if they give out some exotic raid boots with the dlc update i got 30…bout time! Finished the nightfall…got exotic helmet -____- lol

So im poor as hell only have like 4 exotics and no raid gear i do nightfall last night and what do i get fucking energy…one guy gets surros regime and the other gets plan c… Then i go back to town and get a package with three legendaries i get an ugly ass cloak… And two fucking scout rifles >:o i now own almost all legendary scout rifles… As a matter a fact the only non scout rifle primaries i own are shadow price that i bought from the vendor and thorn that i completed the bounty for… This game INSISTS i use scout rifles… I got so flustered.

Well I have gotten a raid armor piece almost every time I’ve raided but I’ve never had a primary weapon that does more than just base damage in the primary slot. No Vex weapon no nothing. Its frustrating the best primary I have is shadow price lol

All guns do same dmg when fully leveld i think the only gun now that surpasses the 300 cap is vex mythocast sitting at like 327 i think? For pve i guess you want primaries that have an added element to them for breaking sheilds. Good impact helps quite a bit too making each bullet hit harder but usually theres a trade off of slower rate of fire or smaller mag meaning pretty much all guns do the same. For pve