Demon's/Dark Souls Thread. Dark Souls II!

[Alexisdabomb]

Okay… Finally killed Ornstein and Smough… FUCK!

Holy fuck was that hard. Keep in mind that I didn’t have an amazingly good weapon but a couple of pretty good weapons (+2Lightning Spear, +5Great Scythe, Drake Sword, Occult Club, and a Crystal Halberd). Lightning Spear is good but the hitbox and damage just wasn’t enough on Ornstein or Phase 2. I had no idea how to fight werewolf lightning Saiyan Ornstein, so I kept my focus on Ornstein in Phase 1 and fought omega Smough phase 2. Had to take out the Crystal Halberd after 10 attempts with my other weapons and luckily it does a lot of damage to them but the durability was at 20. But the time I finally beat them (3rd or 4th attempt with the Crystal Halberd) my durability was at 6.

It’s a good game. I’m going to buy DS2. I just hope the PC port is unfucked.

Questions:

I have a +5 Great Scythe, I want to level it up as a fire weapon, where do I find the blacksmith to do it?

Should I upgrade the Drake Sword? I’ve yet to find another Dragon Weapon aside from Dragon Tooth which requires 40 Strength. I have plenty of Demon and Dragon Titanite.

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Good job killing O&S! Now do it as SL1

The fire blacksmith is hidden in the catacombs, only through extensive exploration (and a bit of insanity) will you find it–alternatively you could use a guide.

Upgrading the drake sword isn’t that great but if you’ve got the materials then by all means…

[Ephidel]

This poison place is FUCKED up

Oh man I just hit this place yesterday! I fucking hate this level design man, it’s not tearing my hair out like blighttown though. When you go deeper the traps start getting ridiculous poison shit everywhere–creatures one shot your dude to hell.

It’s costing like 11k souls just to lvup now, shit is getting tedious lol. I wouldn’t of made it this far without summoning a legion of people fucking shit up everywhere.

[MARTIAN]

Hawkeye Gough and the Giant Blacksmith are giants in das1.

In size, not race.

Passive aggressive ass dudes marking this with a Disagree but still provide no evidence that proves what they’re saying. Ok, lol.

Anyway, I don’t know why we would see the Primordial serpents in this game. They were probably native to Lordran, so why would they care about you re-igniting / putting out the Flame in Drangelic? If you’ll recall that was Nashandra’s objective in DSII. Which is something I hated about this game: the fact that there was only one ending. What the fuck From? You seriously just couldn’t put in a separate cutscene so we at least have a choice like the two previous games?

That’s one of my biggest peeves about this game besides their failure to include a lot of spells from the previous game for no reason.

And warping from the start.

[T20thoughts]

This poison place is FUCKED up

Oh man I just hit this place yesterday! I fucking hate this level design man, it’s not tearing my hair out like blighttown though. When you go deeper the traps start getting ridiculous poison shit everywhere–creatures one shot your dude to hell.

It’s costing like 11k souls just to lvup now, shit is getting tedious lol. I wouldn’t of made it this far without summoning a legion of people fucking shit up everywhere.

Keep in mind that there are lots of paths to take from Majula. If you get stuck on a particular area, there’s bound to be other areas you can go explore. I did that with a certain trio bossfight.

[Phantom_Angel]

Hawkeye Gough and the Giant Blacksmith are giants in das1.

In size, not race.

Passive aggressive ass dudes marking this with a Disagree but still provide no evidence that proves what they’re saying. Ok, lol.

That how it is around here… People don’t like to have intelligent discussion, even when regarding something as open to interpretation as the Souls series. They just say, “I’m right, you’re wrong” with no reasoning behind it. All they have to do is post an item description or some dialog that enforces their belief, but they can’t even do that. It’s cool, though. I’m used to people being unable to back up their statements . What makes it worse is, it’s the same guy who said that there’s nothing that ties Dark Souls I & II together… :wasted:

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Passive aggressive ass dudes marking this with a Disagree but still provide no evidence that proves what they’re saying. Ok, lol.

Your whole argument is “no he’s not”

He’s labeled giant in game, thus he’s a giant.

Your entire argument is “no he’s not a giant because I said so” but this guy over here who is “the last giant” he’s a giant

We can’t do anything other than disagree with you because you’re a moron.

People don’t like to have intelligent discussion

They just say, “I’m right, you’re wrong” with no reasoning behind it

L O L

What makes it worse is, it’s the same guy who said that there’s nothing that ties Dark Souls I & II together… :wasted:

And ending with blatant lies, nice “intelligent discussion” you’ve got there mate. :clapdos:

[Phantom_Angel]

Passive aggressive ass dudes marking this with a Disagree but still provide no evidence that proves what they’re saying. Ok, lol.

Your whole argument is “no he’s not”

He’s labeled giant in game, thus he’s a giant.

Your entire argument is “no he’s not a giant because I said so” but this guy over here who is “the last giant” he’s a giant

We can’t do anything other than disagree with you because you’re a moron.

Yea, umm… This is not how we do things around here. If this is the tone you want to take, you’re better off staying out of any kind of discussion.

[T20thoughts]

The giant races in these two games can be completely different and still be called the same thing. Easily.
They’re races that have been named as giants in two different lands in two different time periods.
Neither race called THEMSELVES giants. They were called giants by the people who were smaller than them. Because the giants were big, so they called them giants.
The fact that two separate races are called “giants” by two different populations doesn’t make them the same race, or at all related. It just means they’re big compared to the people who named them.

[Phantom_Angel]

People don’t like to have intelligent discussion

They just say, “I’m right, you’re wrong” with no reasoning behind it

L O L

What makes it worse is, it’s the same guy who said that there’s nothing that ties Dark Souls I & II together… :wasted:

And ending with blatant lies, nice “intelligent discussion” you’ve got there mate. :clapdos:

You didn’t say that? Ok.

**Uh because it’s a sequel in name only?

There’s essentially 0 story tie ins, and considering how there’s almost no lore in das2 it’s not like he’s missing much. Oh no he’s not surprised by one boss he missed out on so much.**

Am I still lying, or…?

The giant races in these two games can be completely different and still be called the same thing. Easily.
They’re races that have been named as giants in two different lands in two different time periods.
Neither race called THEMSELVES giants. They were called giants by the people who were smaller than them. Because the giants were big, so they called them giants.
The fact that two separate races are called “giants” by two different populations doesn’t make them the same race, or at all related. It just means they’re big compared to the people who named them.

Which is why I said “In size, not race,” a statement he disagreed with without giving any reasoning why.

[Ephidel]

Keep in mind that there are lots of paths to take from Majula. If you get stuck on a particular area, there’s bound to be other areas you can go explore. I did that with a certain trio bossfight.

Yeah the statue guys in lost bastille, killed them already. I killed the gargoyles, even the demon in Sinner’s rise. I still feels like I’m missing something though, I got down to “the gutter” by hopping my ass down there literally (hole in Majula). I kept dying so I used the cats ring to reduce the dmg, then I read somewhere that’s not the way to do it lol

I’m trying to make it to harvest valley, but I don’t know where it is yet. I’ll find it though.

PRAISE THE SUN

[MARTIAN]

Your whole argument is “no he’s not”

He’s labeled giant in game, thus he’s a giant.

You’re a goddamn idiot. And I can’t believe I actually have to explain this to you.

There’s a myriad of obvious details that distinguish Gough and the Giant Blacksmith from the feral, animalistic, and MUCH LARGER beings that are Giants. It’s like you don’t have the basic ability to distinguish something literal from something conceptual.

But let’s entertain your logic for a minute, here.

So, does that make the “Giant Rat” at the bottom of The Depths a “giant” of species as well?
Does this make the “Iron Golem” a golem of species?
The Blacksmith also sells the “Giant Armor”, which is actually the armor that the Royal Sentinels wear. Does that somehow make all of the guards in Anor Londo “giants” of species?

Not only doesn’t it, but it doesn’t even make any goddamn sense when in light of the most obvious facts we’ve seen between both games. Let’s address a real simple one. A giant’s appearance vs. the Blacksmith’s appearance.

Spoiler

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130816221924/darksouls/images/4/4a/Giant_gate_keeper_render.png

Vs

Spoiler

http://assets1.ignimgs.com/vid/thumbnails/user/2014/03/11/giant_medium.jpg

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/dark-souls-2/thumb/a/aa/A009.jpg/468px-A009.jpg

The anatomy and size are completely different between the two. Not even including the most distinctive feature that all giants share, which is a lack of a goddamn face. The Giant Blacksmith has a crude mask on, but you can obviously tell he has some sort of facial details if you look closely.

Gough doesn’t even have “giant” in his name so I have clue where the shit that assumption is coming from.

I’m all for hearing out and discussing theories in terms of this game’s lore, considering how intentionally ambiguous it can be sometimes. But you’re trying to twist around established content for no fucking reason, and then acting like everyone else is an idiot when you’re plain wrong.

[T20thoughts]

Keep in mind that there are lots of paths to take from Majula. If you get stuck on a particular area, there’s bound to be other areas you can go explore. I did that with a certain trio bossfight.

Yeah the statue guys in lost bastille, killed them already. I killed the gargoyles, even the demon in Sinner’s rise. I still feels like I’m missing something though, I got down to “the gutter” by hopping my ass down there literally (hole in Majula). I kept dying so I used the cats ring to reduce the dmg, then I read somewhere that’s not the way to do it lol

I’m trying to make it to harvest valley, but I don’t know where it is yet. I’ll find it though.

Hah, nice… I actually made my way down that way too, having missed Harvest Valley until I had literally nowhere else to go. Except I made a tough jump over to a higher-up entrance, rather than going directly to the Gutter.

By the way, I won’t spoil, but you’ll be kicking yourself once you realize how you get to Harvest Valley.

[Alexisdabomb]

Your whole argument is “no he’s not”

He’s labeled giant in game, thus he’s a giant.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shaking_head_breaking_bad.gif

You’re a goddamn idiot. And I can’t believe I actually have to explain this to you.

There’s a myriad of obvious details that distinguish Gough and the Giant Blacksmith from the feral, animalistic, and MUCH LARGER beings that are Giants. It’s like you don’t have the basic ability to distinguish something literal from something conceptual.

But let’s entertain your logic for a minute, here.

So, does that make the “Giant Rat” at the bottom of The Depths a “giant” of species as well?
Does this make the “Iron Golem” a golem of species?
The Blacksmith also sells the “Giant Armor”, which is actually the armor that the Royal Sentinels wear. Does that somehow make all of the guards in Anor Londo “giants” of species?

Not only doesn’t it, but it doesn’t even make any goddamn sense when in light of the most obvious facts we’ve seen between both games. Let’s address a real simple one. A giant’s appearance vs. the Blacksmith’s appearance.

Spoiler

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130816221924/darksouls/images/4/4a/Giant_gate_keeper_render.png

Vs

Spoiler

http://assets1.ignimgs.com/vid/thumbnails/user/2014/03/11/giant_medium.jpg

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/dark-souls-2/thumb/a/aa/A009.jpg/468px-A009.jpg

The anatomy and size are completely different between the two. Not even including the most distinctive feature that all giants share, which is a lack of a goddamn face. The Giant Blacksmith has a crude mask on, but you can obviously tell he has some sort of facial details if you look closely.

Gough doesn’t even have “giant” in his name so I have clue where the shit that assumption is coming from.

I’m all for hearing out and discussing theories in terms of this game’s lore, considering how intentionally ambiguous it can be sometimes. But you’re trying to twist around established content for no fucking reason, and then acting like everyone else is an idiot when you’re plain wrong.

You’re both nerds. So it’s a draw game.

[MARTIAN]

Your whole argument is “no he’s not”

He’s labeled giant in game, thus he’s a giant.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shaking_head_breaking_bad.gif

You’re a goddamn idiot. And I can’t believe I actually have to explain this to you.

There’s a myriad of obvious details that distinguish Gough and the Giant Blacksmith from the feral, animalistic, and MUCH LARGER beings that are Giants. It’s like you don’t have the basic ability to distinguish something literal from something conceptual.

But let’s entertain your logic for a minute, here.

So, does that make the “Giant Rat” at the bottom of The Depths a “giant” of species as well?
Does this make the “Iron Golem” a golem of species?
The Blacksmith also sells the “Giant Armor”, which is actually the armor that the Royal Sentinels wear. Does that somehow make all of the guards in Anor Londo “giants” of species?

Not only doesn’t it, but it doesn’t even make any goddamn sense when in light of the most obvious facts we’ve seen between both games. Let’s address a real simple one. A giant’s appearance vs. the Blacksmith’s appearance.

Spoiler

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130816221924/darksouls/images/4/4a/Giant_gate_keeper_render.png

Vs

Spoiler

http://assets1.ignimgs.com/vid/thumbnails/user/2014/03/11/giant_medium.jpg

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/dark-souls-2/thumb/a/aa/A009.jpg/468px-A009.jpg

The anatomy and size are completely different between the two. Not even including the most distinctive feature that all giants share, which is a lack of a goddamn face. The Giant Blacksmith has a crude mask on, but you can obviously tell he has some sort of facial details if you look closely.

Gough doesn’t even have “giant” in his name so I have clue where the shit that assumption is coming from.

I’m all for hearing out and discussing theories in terms of this game’s lore, considering how intentionally ambiguous it can be sometimes. But you’re trying to twist around established content for no fucking reason, and then acting like everyone else is an idiot when you’re plain wrong.

You’re both nerds. So it’s a draw game.

[Smoothjazz101]

Keep in mind that there are lots of paths to take from Majula. If you get stuck on a particular area, there’s bound to be other areas you can go explore. I did that with a certain trio bossfight.

Yeah the statue guys in lost bastille, killed them already. I killed the gargoyles, even the demon in Sinner’s rise. I still feels like I’m missing something though, I got down to “the gutter” by hopping my ass down there literally (hole in Majula). I kept dying so I used the cats ring to reduce the dmg, then I read somewhere that’s not the way to do it lol

I’m trying to make it to harvest valley, but I don’t know where it is yet. I’ll find it though.

PRAISE THE SUN

Make sure you don’t do what I did, and miss the NPC in Heide’s Tower of Flame

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I kept dying so I used the cats ring to reduce the dmg, then I read somewhere that’s not the way to do it lol

cat’s ring (with an equip load of 0.0) is a valid way to proceed through the area, it’s just easier another way.

[TheRock-BoS]

I didn’t know you can only get Hidden Weapon through the BellWatcher covenant. That makes 3 covenants you HAVE to complete to get the Platinum trophy in DS2.

[Hatred_Edge]

Artorias is an asshole. I almost had him. Power Within is working but I may reconsider my strategy and load out.

[Alexisdabomb]

Went into the Tomb of the Giants. BTW, killed the Catacombs boss. It wasn’t on my to do list but since I found the blacksmith down there and managed to get a +2 Great Fire Scythe and since he was right next to the boss I went in there. Killed him on my first try. He was piss-easy. Just whale on him. Done. Easier then the Butterfly. At least with the Butterfly you need some sort of ranged magic attack to make it super easy.

Fought the Skeleton/Grim Reaper boss. Okay, he was metal-looking as fuck. Reminds me of that boss in Symphony of the Night that just dropped corpses. Beat him on my 2nd try and I cheesed the hell out of it with healing items. I was surprised it worked but it did. Scythe/Halberds are a godsend in that fight, Heavy attack just clears those retard skeletons. The gauntlet leading up to this boss was hard as fuck. Actually both bosses are relatively easy it’s just the horde of skeletons that make it hard. Those beast Skeletons can EAD.

Question: what are those steel warthogs in New Londor weak to?