You were playing keepaway, which is a completely legitimate strategy for characters like Taskmaster. And for characters like Hawkeye, it’s kinda the only strategy. You shouldn’t feel bad for using your character effectively.
if you play like Chris G using his Morrigan you are spamming if you
shoot few arrows and try to get in that is zoning but it’s whatever people
always try to use cheap tactics to win so if you like to be cheap keep shooting arrows
Sentinel doesn’t even need a Stand to go ‘Atatatatatatatataatatata!’
[Edit] Realized I mistakenly referenced Fist of the North Star instead of JoJo. My otaku license has been stripped.
[Edit] But let’s be serious, people do and use anything that works. I think it’s safe to say we all agree that Daigo is a turtling motherfucker, but it gets the job done. That’s his thing and it works for him.
I think the line between zoning and spamming is pretty thin, most people just use the word zoning just so they don’t say spam lol. Without actually seeing your match, I cant say. I was just going off your description, which you described initially losing then winning. You might have spammed but I think your experience was still positive. For whatever reason you recognized yourself at a disadvantage and moved to a strategy that gave you advantage. Nothing to be ashamed of with that. My comment about if its your only option is for those people, and we’ve all seen them or played them, that as soon as they get in a corner they just fire off doom beams or something. Personally, I think anybody that visit these forums wants to improve and get better overall. If you find yourself really getting hammered, you should still try some more sound approaches to the match. Some people seem to only be able to learn when they are winning, so when they start losing the book goes out the window and its by any means. Even if that means doesn’t help them get any better. Sorry for the rant lol
Thanks for the reply. I was actually just beginning to use Taskmaster so I only knew one of his corner combos (which was hard to pull off at the time), but I put some strategy into it - warding him off with Akuma’s tatsu and firing diagonal arrows. Of course I’ll be attempt other approaches once I learn my way around the game
Depends on what your state of mind was when you were using the move. If you had some deep understanding that this move was completely uncounterable at the position you were doing it or lead to you being able to counter any countermeasure the opponent made, then that would show some awareness and it wouldn’t really be considering spamming. If you’re just throwing it out because you’re desperate and ran out of ideas, then it’s probably spamming (in a bad way) and you need to re-evaluate your gameplan even if you won.
A lot of people that fall into the second category try to rationalize out of it by using the argument that if he wasn’t countering it, then you can keep doing it…but it’s just a rationalization in those cases because they don’t want to admit that they had a limited gameplan that they needed to work on. I don’t know which category you stand on but you should always be evaluating yourself to realize why you were truly doing what it was that you were doing and consider the fact that just because your tactic worked against this player (or even some players), that there’s a possibility there’s something wrong with it.
There’s also the situation where opponents don’t understand the difference between intelligent zoning and spamming and will probably group your zoning into the spamming category.
Spamming (noun): doing something in a fighting game that is proving effective over and over again until ones opponent loses, quits or figures out a way around the move and/or tactic.
I use Trish and against certain characters like WESKER, I will play keepaway…super jump then up-back dash to get out of reach and lay a ground trap, go into flight, wave dash, lay another ground trap, on the way down spit projectiles. land and repeat. If I’m in range and get a hit confirm on a trap, I will dive kick in and follow with a Bnb. I get A LOT of ragequits and hate messages: “Spammer” “Learn to Fight” “Pussy” etc. I thought keepaway was a legitimate strategy.
One guy called me a spammer for constantly using Ammy’s counter…he kept falling for it
Spam: Hey I have Magneto. I don’t really have any idea what to do, but I noticed I have this EM disruptah. I think I’ll just stand across the screen and shoot this.
Intelligent play: Hey I have Magneto. My opponent has Hulk. I could rush him down, that would be a legitimate strategy. However, I could run into this big green fist whilst trying to rush him down. I think I will try to keep him away and whittle him down as much as possible while using EM disruptah and assists.
Remember when you were 8 years old or whatever and first saw street fighter 2? If you were like me you found out that Ryu could shoot a fireball across the screen by pressing down-foward + punch. I just kept shooting these fireballs because they looked cool, and were long range. That’s the ultimate definition of spamming.
lol spamming is simply using moves over and over and over again in rapid fire succession. there is no cheapness to it. there neednt be some high minded philosophy to it besides “can my opponent handle this?” if the answer is no then you spam to your hearts content and get free albeit boring wins, if the answer is yes then you start playing fighting games. basically the overriding strategy in any fighting game is to try and find a tactic/strategy/mindset that your opponent finds uncomfortable or hard to deal with, then make them deal with it as much as possible IE spam IE magneto rushdown with drones against people that dont chickenblock well.
thats spamming drones and tridash mixups… but if your opponent is free to it, there is no reason not to do it. also it isnt some asshole thing to do its actually very instructive and builds better players cause those going up against the spam are FORCED to learn how to counter said spam, and when they do everyone is better off cause the player just learned something and got better because of it.
calling anything “spam” in a relatively balanced game is the call of the scrub. reason why is because if they were good YOU WOULDNT BE ABLE TO SPAM AGAINST THEM. so when someone says your spamming and is losing to your spam just hold that knowledge in yourself and dont go any easier on them, its up to them to level up and stop you. if someone is atually beating you and still says your spamming what they basically mean is that they find your obvious style of play annoying, but not particularly hard to defend against… in a nutchell they dont like playing you. not that it should matter to you, but if they are beating you then it would be good to find some other tactics. however that situation is pretty rare cause if they are beating you while spam stuff, they are probably simply spamming the counter to your stuff. they just find it annoying cause they might not like the particular counter that they are being “forced” to use.
“Spam” is kindof a new term to FGs. First time I heard it was people complaining about fireballs in SF4. The term is unwarrented in SF4 though because it’s actually hard to throw a fireball that doesn’t get you killed. MvC3 I have to say is a spam fest, lol. Even at high level. But that’s part of the game’s charm.