DeeJay General Discussion

viscant came on too, both players lost there sets

viscant won his other match and knocked out a bison!

I didn’t get a chance to play Kurokiba, Jayce sent me to losers. I mad

What char did jayce play as?

FUCK YO BLANKA ;p

Viscant made it out of the pools. 2 more wins means that he will make top 8. I hope Viscant will use crouch tech-cr.hp sometimes against dive kicks. Justin kept spamming it.

You lost to a viper? I thought blanka raped her.

It’s an advantageous matchup, but that doesn’t stop me from getting hit by raw ultra. :[

man too bad kiba didnt zone that abel =/

I don’t zone Abel anymore. I mix him up. If that fails I got to zoning.

I can’t zone Abel. I’ll act like I can and if they make a mistake and chose the wrong way to get in on me, then it’s time to RTSD.

Some quick questions:

LK sobat has lower body invincibility right?

Does EX MGU have any invincibility?

Aside from projectile invincibility, does EX Sobat have any other properties?

There is no info with the frame data on properties!

actually i did a detailed thread on the properties of deejay’s normals and special moves.

some of the information has changed

lk sobat is throwable and has more lower invincibility.

lk upkicks has 8 invinicibility frames
mk upkicks has 7

Cheers…EX MGU has 9 frames of hit invincibility - seriously? It’s such an odd move that I have interrupted strings with before, to then have it stuffed clean?

that’s probably the lower invincibility

4 frames of total invincibility also throwable from 4th frame onward

9 frames upper and lower invinicibility

What do you do when someone is relentlessly crouch teching and blocking against your dee jay, how do you keep the pressure up? i dont know how to frame trap with dee jay either. Please help! I want to commit to him but this is a real issue right now in my matches with lame ryus

learn how to frame trap

You say “relentlessly crouch teching and blocking” as if he’s putting YOU under pressure by playing defensively. That’s gotta be the wrong way round. Dee Jay has a decent pressure game; use it. Keep going at him with safe sobats, knee shots and cross ups. He will be taking chip from your sobats, and LK Sobat goes over tech shorts, so eventually he’s going to have to do something other than block and crouch tech.

Also yes, you should learn what little frame trap ability Dee Jay has. Start by figuring out which of Dee Jay’s normals has the best frame advantage on block (there’s gotta be frame data around here somewhere), and think about the kind of situation your opponent will be in after blocking one of your normals, and more to the point, whether you will beat his crouch tech. Build the possible scenarios in your head and practice for them.

Like Veserius said, if the guy is crouch teching, frame trap him. A nice frame trap you can use against Ryu’s that like to use the cr. strong OS is jab, jab, walk back slightly, cr. strong > lk sobat . Courtesy of FOAMO’s post of heijoutei from the video thread :slight_smile:

I think DJ needs a frame trap thread because DJ normals don’t have great block stun but he can get the job done.DJ has a fast walk speed so he can get away with walking forward or backwards during a loose block string. The good thing about his frame traps is that you can score untechable knockdowns.

You have to be mindful of your opponent because you don’t know their crouch tech timing unless you are sitting next to them and they are using a normal stick. Against a person who tech fast, You can do a normal block string like cr.lp, cr.mp xx AS. Against a a person who tech slow, you could cr.lp,st.mk,cr.mp.

I think that close st.mk is DJs best button because it can be used in different ways. It has a 5 frame startup, so it’s a solid frame trap. It is +3 on block and the combination of DJ speed, it can be used for tick throw setups and it can setup more frame traps which leads to more untechable knockdowns.

might want a general offensive guide thread then. frame traps, safejumps, setups that make reversals whiff, etc.