At SCR during cleanup I asked him to make DJ’s cl. HP useful for anything. He just motioned cl. MP and said DJ has that instead. Yes Combo I know that is a godlike anti air but still doesn’t change that cl. HP/HK is crap.
jebop
3462
Sounds just like AE2012 Yang, except he actually is and just needs work to win.
I guess with DWU, USF4 will be an inherently more defensive game, therefore buffing “rushdown” characters must be the answer. I can see that.
What they might not have taken into account is that some of these offensive characters also have great defensive options. Ibuki, Guy, Sakura, and Rufus have decent anti-airs, in addition to their invincible special moves!
Just hoping for some “phantom” buffs that a Rasta-fetishist developer surreptitiously threw in there.
Kahmos
3464
I am going to go on a limb and say that despite the low invincibility being gone, the hitbox is still at deejays other foot and that the move by design will probably still go over some lows, just not all/long lows.
Raurik
3465
I’m going to go on a limb and assume that going on a limb was not meant to be a pun. Funny all the same.
Yeah, you stand to make a fair point that he might still beat some cr.shorts and other short reaching normals. That said, I imagine he’ll lose to low profile moves like Ryu’s cr.forward now. Mind you, cr.forward and LK Sobat had a tendency to whiff each other completely.
Raurik
3466
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I am going to go on a limb and say that despite the low invincibility being gone, the hitbox is still at deejays other foot and that the move by design will probably still go over some lows, just not all/long lows.
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You sir inspired me to make a mockup of said hurtboxes. LK Sobat Hitbox Concept
So all shotos can have shoryus, tatsus, the same low mk but Deejay can’t have decent normals as a charge character because of Guile? Fucking dumb fuck Capcom logic, and Combofiend sounds more and more like a sellout everyday. I’m gonna start calling that fool Toby if keeps it up. I know he has a job to do but at least keep it 100 with the players. Just say “I tried, but I can only do so much”. Don’t go making excuses for Capcom. He’s not in the PR department.
What is Deejay supposed to be good at as a charge character then? Mix ups? “I wanna see more air slashers”? FOH.
Actually as a Community manager (i still belive this is his sub title) he is in the PR deparment. I don’t want to derail the current converstaion but let’s not get delusional of what his job is.
You’re right. This whole “balance” thing was a PR stunt to promote a new version of the game and dump in some new characters and backgrounds. I forgot this is Crapcom we’re talking about. See yall around Ultra Street Fighter IV Alpha time.
the only players who got what they wanted feel like their input was taken. i think we might be the only character that got straight shafted. Maybe seth, but his DP is still invincible to the strike.
we also should be having this conversation on capcom-unity. of course we’re going to have to deal with their scrubs, but we’ll be more likely to be scene.
Couldn’t agree more. Someone want to make a thread?
They close character specific threads telling everyone to move it to the general discussion about ultra changes.
There is deejay discussion in that thread, and I think we should continue to blow it up. Maybe another patch will come with the August version of the game.
It’s too late guys. It’s over. They’re doing official videos about the changes. It’s a wrap. Wrap it up bee.
The only way things change is if people don’t buy the game or no longer support Capcom, and majority of the community do not have that type of integrity. The top players are going to tip toe around the issue(s) because their job is to win and not compromise sponsorships. They don’t use Deejay so there is nothing to speak on. Combofiend clearly knows shit is fucked up but is 1) Biased towards rush down characters 2) A company man now, so he’ll just play the “I wanna see more air slashers”, “winning with Deejay will be that much more rewarding”.
Me personally I’ve had my fill of how Capcom does it’s business in general. If they would have fucking announced they have an internal tier list from day 1, I wouldn’t have fucking picked up their nigga version of Dan troll character. I don’t understand what’s so difficult (story or marketing wise) about having a balanced roster but whatever.
I wish you guys the best of luck. I honestly want to see guys like Da Knut and Freej4y in top 10s with Deejay but there’s money to be made at these tourneys too. Take those strong fundamentals to another character. I’m gonna still cheer for you guys on stream.
Barring any of you finding out some hidden tech that changes things (which they will nerf in a future version anyway)** Capcom can S my D.**
deleye
3475
I posted at unity just asking them to revert the nerfs. Probably not Gona happen but worth a try.
I’m just a scrub. I was actually hoping for more buffs after seing the Arcade changes. Really disapointed when I saw all the nerfs. Will still play him cause I like him in general, just to bad he have to suck so much.
I tought he was gona get like a Ryu makeover, so all his tools would be useful. Fix his Bdash, FA, throw and normals.
Losing LK Sobat low invunreble will really mess up my scrubby arse 
Pretty sure its too little, too late (I posted as well). What makes me angry about how they did him is I picked him up back in December after my friend (the SAME guy who got me into and taught me this game a year and a half ago) jokingly said to try him. He then went to being my strongest character after I made the decision to learn him seriously (I was a lurker here for quite a while). Easily my favorite character in the game. Who would have thought that getting bored with Guy would lead me to Dee Jay?
I’ve already made the decision to not buy this game. I’m going back to Tekken Tag 2 and when it drops, Tekken X Street Fighter. If any of you get that game, I hope to see you there. If Dee Jay is in that game, he’ll be viable as Namco knows how to balance games unlike Capcom.
Peace.
deleye
3478
Anyone getting this game? I think I’m starting to crack and might get it, which I don’t want to but Hugo and rolento interest me a bit, T.hawk being good is cool too. Sf4 is one of 2 games I still feel a urge to play nowadays, sucks capcom fucked us.
wait to buy it used, so Capcom doesn’t make any money at least
I never thought about the mgu fadc being useful, he got a cl.mk after the fadc, which seems interesting, might be a decent combo for stun? I can’t seem to get it to work on the pc mod though.
(It’s at 26:23 in the video. I did put a timestamp on it, but for some reason it doesn’t start at the time.)
