They had that. They set it up so only smart landowners could vote.
pherai
1143
Oh man…
Making a decision based on a slogan. Its sad to see people believing things just because its repeated over and over. It’s the same thing when someone says Clinton has more experience. There’s no basis for it
System_1
1145
**Yes we can **(make a decision based on a slogan)! :rolleyes:
Well, in terms of Hillary vs. Obama in terms of experience, Hillary really is the more experienced of the two. She’s been in politics in some way since college. She hasn’t been a senator much longer, but she is definitely more-experienced than him. That said, neither of them are particularly experienced. If you’re looking for experience, vote Republican.
Who cares? Kotaku is Canadian. They aren’t even people.
Rooks4
1147
I don’t see a problem with this statement, and going as far as saying it has any relation to being an underachiever is a stretch and just another fucking media cheapshot.
He’s talking about good parenting. He’s talking about people taking responsibility for their own actions and lives.
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“I know how hard it will be to alleviate poverty that has built up over centuries, how hard it will be to fix schools, because changing our schools will require not just money, but a change in attitudes.
We’re going to have to parent better, and turn off the television set, and put the video games away, and instill a sense of excellence in our children, and that’s going to take some time.”
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He’s talking about Parents taking a little bit of action in guiding their children to be educated. Parent’s who let their kids do nothing but play video games and watch tv all day, instead of being involved in their studies and making sure they are developing their minds are doing a disservice not only to their children but the future of our Country. We need to instill this on EVERYONE, because for the most part it’s been lost to our society.
He shouldn’t be losing votes from us - he should be gaining them. He’s looking at the big picture, ang video games as an example is not singleing them out… He mentioned shutting off the TV too. He’s talking about taking an active role in our childrens development. I don’t see how anyone can argue with that, and Kotaku is a fucking joke for suggesting otherwise. He’s either super biased, or super stupid.
EDIT: by the way, turning off doesn’t mean not allowing children to play video games. Video games IS a form of art and entertainment, and used in moderation can even be a learning tool. No child should be denied the sweet sweet pleasures of JRPGs (heh) but taking this quote to mean it like that seems excessive. Im guessing GamePolitics is a republican biased source for some reason. I mean, you can’t vote for “ban them cuz they kill people” Clinton… and uhhhhh dunno McCain’s stance, but that’s basically the only one left to vote for if you don’t like Obama… and that’s a fucking joke because he’s an idiot and may not live another 4 years to even serve his term 
pherai
1148
It’s a sad day when experience on campaigns and shit counts for something.
System_1
1149
Yes, because we all think of Howard Stern as having a huge vision for America and having…
Well, you get what I’m saying.
And no, no, he really is saying that gamers are underachievers. The best response to his statements is “who cares?” as it won’t affect his policies, most likely.
Rooks4
1150
How do you come to that conclusion exactly? Because I don’t see it. It’s a well known problem and has been for years, that parents let their kids to anything they want (watch TV… Play games… whatever) instead of taking an active role in their education. Making sure they do their homework. Help them with their assignments. Let them know that education is important above all else, and if they want to succeed in life they need to be equipped mentally.
I don’t see anywhere in this speech that suggest “If your kid plays a video game, he’s an underachiever.”
I guess we’ll agree to disagree.
i for one agree with the concept. yes, video games are a good hobby and a fun way to pass time. rpgs are as viable as most books as a source for literature i think. but we as a nation are becoming more and more sedentary and obese. we ought to stop playing on the computer and turn off the tv and video games and enjoy outdoor activities more. this goes for videogames as much as classic movies!
Weeks
1152
I honestly cannot see a way for Obama to lose in the general election. If Obama loses I will be shocked, just shocked. This isn’t like Kerry v Bush where I expected Kerry to win but I wasn’t sure about his chances (I mean, who was excited about Kerry? no one.) But Obama has a huge enthusiastic base of supporters. If he loses I will be amazed.
Yansoma
1153
I’m going to have to agree. At this point I just feel it is overwhelmingly obvious that he is going to win. I was surprised when my boss and fellow employees, whom are very loyal republicans; were basically admitting defeat when they heard Romney dropped out. Also many of them said they would rather just not even vote than support McCain.
As much as I like Obama, again: it ain’t over till it’s over. Anything can happen between now and November. Hillary could make a comeback, hardcore conservatives could reunite under McCain, Obama could make a joke offensive to white people, etc.
One concern with Obama is whether or not he’s peaked. Is such a question meaningful? Maybe, maybe not. He’s been a little vague when it comes to policy and intentionally so IMO. He knows he’s treading a fine line between hardcore Democrats and the non-liberal blocs that are the backbone of his widespread appeal, since the DNC’s ideal platform doesn’t usually fly with moderates and conservatives. Assuming Obama knows this, he won’t want to commit to anything until absolutely necessary, but that could backfire if he’s stuck in a bad spot and forced to articulate his position at the wrong time. Just good old-fashioned politics.
SMB
1155
I felt that way when Bush got re-elected but that’s a whole other thing.
I think Obama’s got this shit locked down.
You’re only saying that cuz there’s not much dirt on Obama yet. He’s got a slight edge over McCain in the polls right now, but the thing is once Obama’s slum lording past comes out and his naivety becomes more apparent, the public at large will start to get more familiar with the fact that Obama is, in fact, human.
Monte
1157
This kind of thinking will set you up for a big disappointment. I can see Obama losing. First is that even if some conservatives don’t totally agree with McCain they will still vote for him over Obama. Second, republicans vote. Obama has a lot of appeal for younger people but when it comes down to it the young voters always leave their candidate hanging when it comes to day of voting. Third, like Obama, McCain has independent voter appeal. He has the reputation as being a maverick and he will do whatever he feels like. McCain is definitely the hardest republican candidate for the democrats to beat. Fourth, Obama hasn’t had his feet held to the fire. Other Democrats haven’t really gone after him because you don’t want to fracture the party but once the nominees are set for both parties they will go after each other and if the ultra conservatives haven’t brought down McCain by now there is nothing the democrats can do to McCain that is worse. Obama however can have a big fall.
That isn’t even an exhaustive list so if you think there’s no way Obama can lose than you have your head in the clouds and it’s that same attitude that cost Kerry the race in 2004. I personally am not a fan of both candidates and if it’s between Obama and McCain I might not even bother to go and vote.
You’re forgetting one other thing, Monte. Old people vote, too.
And old people still hate black people. If I was 85 years old and I had to pick between a black, sub-rookie senator and a white war hero…I’d probably go for McCain.
I’m still undecided. But old people are old.
Monte
1159
:u: Well it wasn’t an exhaustive list, posted that in the middle of getting my sandwich on but I think that falls under the umbrella of young people don’t vote/McCain has strong independent appeal. Also that’s for old white people (who happen to be the majority of elderly voters) that can be brought over to McCain’s side. Minorities have bought into the whole, republicans are evil idea so much that democrats get that vote for free. My grandma for instance is Mexican and she was telling me the other day how republicans want to stomp all over the working class and as she was telling me she was jumping up and down and stomping on the floor. Of course she doesn’t know the specifics of Hilary or Obama’s platform but as long as they’re democrats that’s enough for her.
I thought these were all very good points. Obama seems to have a lot of momentum right now but few things can do a 180 as quickly as politics.
It’s also worth noting that most voters had decided how they feel about Hillary around 10 years ago. Obama is a gifted orator, but not a whole lot is really known about his policies and plans. His aura seems almost more celebrity than politician at this point, and that can easily come crashing down. For the record, even if Michelle Obama didn’t mean her statement the way it has been portrayed it still isn’t the kind of thing somebody vying to be First Lady should be saying. It didn’t set well with me, and I’m sure it did not help her cause.
Overall point being… this thing isn’t over yet, not even close. A lot could happen.
