DC Comics Thread

No, Batman and Batman and Robin deal with the Batman, Inc. work (Moreso B&R) and his experiences after that. Detective Comics is set five years in the past so it doesn’t obviously, and I don’t know about Dark Knight quite yet.

Oh and like Rocky B said, Batwing has his own title that is said to be pretty good.

Ah ok cool, good to know. I will definitely be picking up the Scott Snyder/Greg Capullo title

Good to hear Gorath, Batman #1 was easily my favorite title out of the New 52, such a well written and drawn piece of work.

I like the Batwing book myself & I look forward to more of it even though Judd Winick is not everyone’s favorite on this board(could someone explain that)I was disappointed with how the 1st arc of sorts ended in Batman:Dark Knight.We still don’t who those guys are that want Batman’s tech & stuff.I hope David Finch elaborates on that soon.

When I used to read comics back in the day, Winick was just as unpopular doing his run on Green Arrow. Some things haven’t changed, I suppose. From what I recall, people felt his writing was cheesy, full of bad dialogue, and that he was always inserting his own political agenda into the storylines.

If Winick were the only comic book writer in the world, I guess I would like his stuff. But he’s not, so I can’t help but compare his work to the work of everyone else who’s actually competent at their craft. I mean, when there are so many other people who can do it better, why bother? Would you rather watch the WNBA or the NBA? Judd Winick is like the WNBA of comic book writers.

His comics are peppered with unnecessary sexual references and just lazily crafted, always taking the easiest and least imaginative paths a story could take. The way he inserts his political agenda into his stories doesn’t do his causes any favors. It just kinda feels patronizing to readers because he’s so heavy-handed and the stories end up feeling like cheesy afterschool specials.

I can’t think of a single Winick comic I genuinely enjoy. Not his Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Exiles, Batman, Outsiders, nor even his creator-owned stuff like Barry Ween. There is nothing in his entire canon that I find worthwhile.

Judd Winick isn’t my least favorite comic book writer of all time, but he’s pretty high up there. In terms of worst writers, he definitely cracks my top ten. I’d have him, Daniel Way, Jeph Loeb, Chuck Austen, Dan Jurgens, and Scott Lobdell firmly entrenched. Fabian Niceza probably belongs on my list. Todd McFarlane and Rob Liefeld, even though they’re primarily known for their lousy artwork, are equally lousy writers, and they definitely belong. Not sure who’d be the tenth on my list…

I always thought David Michelinie was pretty bad, even for his era, but I’ve also got zero love for Claremont and Byrne. Who was the bum who wrote Secret Wars II back in the '80s? That was memorably awful. Tom DeFalco’s comics are pretty embarrassing to read… I remember his Fantastic Four in the '90s was so crappy that I hated the FF as a concept for years 'cause of his work. I’ve never understood how Spider-Girl lasted as long as it did. Oh, yeah, and can’t forget about Howard Mackie. That dude sucks pretty hard.

My problem is that I’ve got so much hatefulness that it’s hard to narrow it down to just ten people.

Supergirl #1:
Yeah, her outfit would’ve been waaaaaaaaaaaay better with pants, lol. Overall a good issue with some great action. The events of this issue take place at the same time as Birds of Prey it seems.

Catowman #1:
DAT BAT SEX!

Batman #1:
Fantastic, ending is very interesting and IMO [SPOILER=]Clayface may have something to do with it[/spoiler]
Snyder does not disappoint.

Suicide Squad #1:
It’s OK, but I hope the next issue is better. I’m liking El Diablo though.

Demon Knights #1:
Paul Cornell did not disappoint, this book is looking great. Sucks that thsi is before Etrigan started rhyming though =P

Green Lantern #1:
The ending was a surprise, looking forward to Sinestro’s plan.

Red Lanterns #1:
So where Sinestro’s Corps would ‘keep the peace’ with Fear, Atrocitious, will make his Corps executioners? Wait and see I guess. Didn’t like how Dexter was drawn though.

Deathstroke #1:
Bloody awesome, looking forward to next issue.

Wonder Woman #1:
Great stuff, Az’s run is gonna be fun.

Red Hood #1:
DAT SLUTFIRE!

Blue Beetle #1:
Skimmed it but the joke about Football is friggin’ lame.

Batwing #1:
Thought it was cool will check out next issue too.

Ok the Month of sept. is now over, and now we get to pick which issues are we following.

Im going with:
Action Comics
Detective Comics
Batgirl/Batman and Robin/Batman/Dark Knight/Nightwing/Catwoman
Green Lantern
Red hood and the outlaws
WW
JL/JLdark/Teen Titans
Flash

List thats got me sort of interested but well see in the future:
Batwing/Batwoman/Suicide Squad/Captain Atom/Superman

Read Dark Knight, All Star Western, Flash, and Aquaman so far this week.

Dark Knight…eh, wasn’t a fan. The art really bothered me. Some places it was great, but then the panel right next to it would be hideous. Just all over the place. The story was pretty poor, did a terrible job of explaining things I thought. Seriously considering not even getting a second issue, which is sad since I kind of liked Finch’s Golden Dawn arc.

Flash was the same problem, I felt the art was better overall but there was one or two glaring panels. The story was really meh, so I don’t know what else to say.

Soapbox time, what is with the high number of creative teams where one individual is doing both the art and the story? Is it cheaper for DC? I just find that the quality of work on both ends suffer since attention to detail is split. /rant.

All-Star Western was fantastic! And very meaty, has a more significant weight to it than other #1’s and for the same price as well. The duo of Amadeus and Hex brings an unlikely but interesting team dynamic that drew me in. The psychological breakdown of Hex was cool, and there was a clever comedy bit or two tossed in. Overall best book of the week to me.

Aquaman was good, not great but good. They really tried to hard to make Aquaman a badass in my opinion. Not a bad thing since general opinion is that he sucks despite a full year of outstanding stories with him, but still it felt very heavy handed. Still, great story, AMAZING art, and I eagerly anticipate what unfolds.

While the Comixology app is confirmed for Kindle Fire, DC just confirmed they’ll have graphic novels available exclusively through the Kindle Store

The list of available books is pretty impressive:

[details=Spoiler]All Star Superman
All Star Batman & Robin, The Boy Wonder, Vol. 1
American Vampire Vol. 1
Batman and Robin, Vol. 1: Batman Reborn
Batman and Robin, Vol. 2: Batman vs. Robin
Batman and Robin, Vol. 3: Batman Must Die!
Batman and Son
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Batman: Arkham City
Batman: Hush
Batman: R.I.P.
Batman: The Black Glove
Batman: The Dark Knight Returns
Batman: The Long Halloween
Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne
Batman: Year One
Blackest Night
Blackest Night: Black Lantern Corps Vol. 1
Blackest Night: Black Lantern Corps Vol. 2
Blackest Night: Rise of the Black Lanterns
Blackest Night: Tales of the Corps
Brightest Day, Vol. 1
Brightest Day, Vol. 2
Brightest Day, Vol. 3
Daytripper
Fables Vol. 1: Legends in Exile
Fables Vol. 2: Animal Farm
Fables Vol. 3: Storybook Love
Fables Vol. 4: March of the Wooden Soldiers
Fables Vol. 5: The Mean Seasons
Fables Vol. 6: Homeland
Fables Vol. 7: Arabian Nights (and Days)
Fables Vol. 8: Wolves
Fables Vol. 10: The Good Prince
Fables Vol. 11: War and Pieces
Fables Vol. 12: The Dark Ages
Fables Vol. 13: The Great Fables Crossover
Fables Vol. 14: Witches
Fables Vol. 15: Rose Red
Green Lantern Vol. 3: Wanted Hal Jordan
Green Lantern: Agent Orange
Green Lantern: Blackest Night
Green Lantern: Rage of the Red Lanterns
Green Lantern: Rebirth
Green Lantern: Secret Origin
Green Lantern: The Sinestro Corps War
How to Understand Israel in 60 Days or Less
Identity Crisis
Kingdom Come
MAD About Oscars
MAD About Superheroes
MAD About Superheroes
MAD About the 50′s
MAD About the 60′s
Marzi
Planetary Vol. 1: All Over the World and Other Stories
Planetary Vol. 2: The Fourth Man
Planetary Vol. 3: Leaving the 20th Century
Planetary Vol. 4: Spacetime Archaeology
Superman for All Seasons
Superman: Earth One
The Dark Knight Strikes Again
The Flash: Rebirth
The Joker
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (Vol. 1)*
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (Vol. 2 )*
The Sandman Vol. 1: Preludes & Nocturnes
The Sandman Vol. 2: The Doll’s House
The Sandman Vol. 3: Dream Country
The Sandman Vol. 4: Season of Mists
The Sandman Vol. 5: A Game of You
The Sandman Vol. 6: Fables and Reflections
The Sandman Vol. 7: Brief Lives
The Sandman Vol. 8: World’s End
The Sandman Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
The Sandman Vol. 10: The Wake
The Sandman: Dream Hunters
The Sandman: Dream Hunters (P. Craig Russell)
The Sandman: Endless Nights
The Unwritten Vol. 1: Tommy Taylor and the Bogus Identity
The Unwritten Vol. 2: Inside Man
V for Vendetta
Watchmen
We3
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 1: Unmanned
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 10: Whys and Wherefores
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 2: Cycles
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 3: One Small Step
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 4: Safeword
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 5: Ring of Truth
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 6: Girl on Girl
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 7: Paper Dolls
Y: The Last Man, Vol. 8: Kimono Dragons

Y: The Last Man, Vol. 9: Motherland[/details]

Oh jeez here we go, what I got this week in addition to the previous four:

Action Comics #1 reprint.
Batgirl #1 reprint (I know I know, I only got it to better articulate my hate).
Men of War #1.
OMAC #1.
Hawkman #1.
Justice League Dark #1.
Superman #1.

Signed up for Huntress #1, Penguin #1 (THE FUCK), and reprint Supergirl #1. Also ordered Jonah Hex first trade and Hitman first trade.

OH! And my friend got me a copy of Red Lanterns #1 since he knows I’m a whore for Milligan.

Teen Titans didn’t really do it for me this week. I dunno, I really don’t want to sit through these characters meeting each other all over again. Especially when Johns is doing a much better job with this sort of thing in JL.

Picking up Action Comics #2 next week and hoping I like it more than the first issue.

Lol why is Action Comics #2 coming out before Justice League #2? Someone get Jim Lee off of Twitter. :rofl:

EDIT: WTF? Patton Oswalt swears off DC comics forever because they harassed him in a store about a new 52 survey. You know personally I think he’s mad that Superman’s Grounded walk across America did not include the United States of Tara. :clown:

Lee machine already ruining the book, WHAT A SHOCKER!

I was intrigued enough to get Action Comics #2 next week. I don’t know how I feel about the first issue, it’s such a mixed bag for me, I haven’t processed it all yet.

Batgirl was alright…eh, I dunno what to do now. My hate, but Mirror was so cool and she wasn’t a bimbo but…the hate! I am confused.

Superman #1 is another title that didnt do it for me aswell. I rather follow Action Comics and see where that takes me.

So far I disliked Dark Knight and Green Arrow outright, a lot I am meh on but willing to get another issue or two to check it out.

New 52 is nice a lot of them didn’t do it for me though.
Deathstroke #1
Detective comics #1
Batman #1
Batman and Robin #1
Justice League #1
Green Lantern #1
Green Lantern Corps #1
Catwoman #1
Aquaman #1 (surprisingly)
I only found good.
The rest I need to see more issues.

Hey Sano pick up Aquaman you bum, promised me after our discussion you’d check an issue out. And if I am imagining that then it’s still fact.

Also everyone here check out OMAC and Hawkman. I know OMAC was first week but I got some titles I missed and it was fun.

Hawkman was just kind of surprising, got it on a whim since I used to be a big Carter Hall nut. Was a good story, I loved the art, and the new villain was interesting enough I suppose. Plus Gentleman Ghost Is popping up in it soonish and I think he is a great villain.

ROFL if it’s still in stores by me I’ll check it out. If it isn’t… Oh gosh darn it all to heck. :crybaby:

The chances of me picking up issue #2 are extremely rare. If Johns didn’t get me to like the guy when he crammed him down my throat during Brightest Day then chances are nothing will.

I rarely watch Brave and the Bold because CN always puts it on the air when I’m working for some reason and I’m still more of a Batman The Animated Series fan and currently Young Justice. And just me personally I still have a really hard time getting over Oswald from the Drew Carey show voicing Batman since I’ve seen like every Drew Carey episode 10 times… Well not the last season but no one else did either…

I have to say that the few times I’ve seen Aquaman on the show I liked him a lot. Ditto for Guy Gardner. Brave and the Bold is really good at making me like characters I don’t.

Well they still had copies of Aquaman #1 left.

Oh and the dude behind the counter said, “Good choice!”

Rats! Foiled again!

AYO, I’ll get you next time Gadget! Next time! :rofl:

Ahahaha, awesome man. Despite the hate I hope you enjoy.

If only that I can say I told you so but still. Like I said it was good but I feel the second issue will really pick up the pace.