Dark Slayer Style - The Vergil General Discussion Thread

[Nitro_Noodlez]

Seems like he can also cancel his launcher into a Arakune like command-rekka.

Yeah, that would be his Upper Slash rekkas. His J.2C is Helm Breaker also. I’m assuming that High Time would be 4C and Stinger is 6C.

[Felinoter]

… was watching 2nd seth killian vergil video

4:25 he uses spiral swords, 1 meter. he has 0, right?
after super flash, he has 2 meters…

[NissanZaxima]

As long as this motherfucker doesn’t pull out a an annoying gun to zone with, I’m okay with this.

Dante doesn’t actually zone with his gun either lol

[Jocelot]

Yeah, that would be his Upper Slash rekkas. His J.2C is Helm Breaker also. I’m assuming that High Time would be 4C and Stinger is 6C.

Jeah, that’s what I was thinking.

Vergil seems to have a lot of nice tools in the normal department. Stinger, Helm Splitter ground bouncing Star Fall… plus it still bottles my mind that High Time hits otg. Seth even went into a nice air juggle after High Time. I think you could do an easy relaunch with magic series, otg High Time, j.:h: Star Fall, relaunch.

[evilweevle]

… was watching 2nd seth killian vergil video

4:25 he uses spiral swords, 1 meter. he has 0, right?
after super flash, he has 2 meters…

its a different match. timer changes and also opponents character changes to thor.

edit : on second view it is the same match but the timer does change so it must have been edited somewhat already.

[Indig0]

Alright, I’ve updated the OP with all that tasty new information. Anything I’ve missed?

[evilweevle]

Alright, I’ve updated the OP with all that tasty new information. Anything I’ve missed?

we know one of his assists is the rapid slash, guess you could put up spaces for each assist and then just update them once we learn what the other ones are. id be very surprised if judgement cut isnt one of them also.

[Indig0]

we know one of his assists is the rapid slash, guess you could put up spaces for each assist and then just update them once we learn what the other ones are. id be very surprised if judgement cut isnt one of them also.

Ahh, that’s right. I was going to do an assist section, but forgot about it. And yeah, JC is one of his assists, you can see it in Seth’s Iron Fist breakdown I think.

[evilweevle]

we only need one more then! wonder which version of JC it is. probably medium i suppose. Vergil is gonna be fucking awesome with DT powered assists!

[Yugo]

Are you sure that his Judgment cut hyper can only be done in the air? Because during Seth’s Vergil breakdown he showed a combo that he likes to do that makes me believe otherwise. He teleport canceled Rising Star (which so far you can only teleport back to the ground with) into the super. Unless the teleports are also super cancel-able.

[JPrem]

Are you sure that his Judgment cut hyper can only be done in the air? Because during Seth’s Vergil breakdown he showed a combo that he likes to do that makes me believe otherwise. He teleport canceled Rising Star (which so far you can only teleport back to the ground with) into the super. Unless the teleports are also super cancel-able.

I can’t see why it’d be air only, not like that seems particularly broken. But unless he’s really hurting for meterless damage I don’t think I’ll be using MV over swords/DT very often (unless it’s a DHC off of something like Sphere Flame or Spell of Vishanti, where nothing else really works)

If it IS air only maybe he tk’ed it? Like how Dorm follows his launcher with TK liberations?

[Yugo]

On an unrelated note; I refuse to call it “Maximum Wesker” It’s not like he is dashing all over the place, just doing hella Judgment cuts.

[JPrem]

On an unrelated note; I refuse to call it “Maximum Wesker” It’s not like he is dashing all over the place, just doing hella Judgment cuts.

Well if we’re lucky it won’t be like Maximum Wesker where you get hit out of it by any stray poke that happened to be on the screen at the time…

[Shin_Oni]

Whatever. Maximum Judgement. swords, slashes, bubbles.

[Indig0]

His three assists are JC, Rising Sun and Rapid Slash. http://www.gamespot.com/events/tgs-2011/story.html?sid=6334749&tag=updates;title;2&pid=637240

[Jocelot]

On an unrelated note; I refuse to call it “Maximum Wesker” It’s not like he is dashing all over the place, just doing hella Judgment cuts.

Jeah. I feel the same way. At least Spiderman and Wesker are jumpin’ off the walls. Not really seeing the Maximum in Vergy’s. But whatever. Just nitpickin.

[Evil_ToasterofFP]

If you couldn’t do Maximum Vergil on the ground, what would Vergil have for a Crossover Combination? It has to be doable on the ground.

[EternalEnemy]

Well, let’s speculate.

Vergil on point-Dante’s weasel shot could make for some decent left right mixups (which can be set up nicely with Vergil’s various teleports). Jam session doesn’t really seem to offer anything special for him (might extend combos after his OTG?). Hell, this may be one of the few times I experiment with Dante’s crystal assist just for the OTG capability (it’s also pretty big and doesn’t scale combos too badly).

Dante on point-Rapid slash looks like a nice assist both for mixups and combo extensions (stinger->call rapid slash->BC teleport?). Hell backed by Dante’s ranged pokes it could even serve as a “get in” assist. Don’t know what his other two assists are (I assume Judgement Cut is one of them?) Probably going to have to do something really funky to get combos off airthrows using this assist though (if it’s possible at all).

DHC synergy (Vergil on point). Maximum Vergil leaves them in hard knockdown state, which means Dante can devil trigger in and get his full combo extension really easily. Having an air hyper that hits fullscreen will also make this a reasonable strat for just punishing keep away or nailing assists. He’s got 2 transformation hypers to safe tag out with as well (though we don’t know if he keeps the swords if he tags out. And maximum Vergil looks safe enough for that anyway.)

DHC synergy (Dante on point). Million Dollars leaves them in a spin state before the last hit, so if Vergil has any good late combo extensions he’ll certainly be able to set them up here. Maximum Vergil hits full screen so it won’t be hard to DHC into (and Devil trigger/Million Dollars->Maximum Vergil could be decent for punishing assists?) Devil trigger->one of Vergils transformations for a relatively safe tag.

They’re not exactly “best friends” status (unless Vergil gets a nice combo extension series) imo, but pretty good for “two point characters” teaming up.

I was thinking about that as well, but you just blew my limited thoughts out of the water. I feel like they could compliment each other quite well, plus as you said, the both have Devil Trigger which would lead to some ridiculous bullshit with both of them. An example I had thought of was have Vergil on point and when you have a enough for a Devil Trigger DHC combo do it, after wards if you get enough meter with Dante you could DHC into Vergil’s level 3 and destroy somebodies health(If they weren’t already dead that is).

[JPrem]

I was thinking about that as well, but you just blew my limited thoughts out of the water. I feel like they could compliment each other quite well, plus as you said, the both have Devil Trigger which would lead to some ridiculous bullshit with both of them. An example I had thought of was have Vergil on point and when you have a enough for a Devil Trigger DHC combo do it, after wards if you get enough meter with Dante you could DHC into Vergil’s level 3 and destroy somebodies health(If they weren’t already dead that is).

That’s not a bad idea, to DHC from Vergil’s DT into w/e and then when you have more meter just DHC into it, it costs more meter over all than just doing it with Vergil on his own, but people can’t lame out your DT so you can’t use your level 3 that way… and then you get to abuse DT powered assists until you get your 4 bars for the DHC

It would probably work great with someone like Magneto, DHC Devil Trigger into Shockwave after a hard knockdown for some damage, and then you’ve got a great battery who could kill characters with ease (I’d just be tempted to use Mags level 3 instead lol).

Not very practical over all, but hell, I’ll be pulling Devil Trigger DHC’s for assists already anyways, now I have an auto “BAM, dead character” option.

[EternalEnemy]

That’s not a bad idea, to DHC from Vergil’s DT into w/e and then when you have more meter just DHC into it, it costs more meter over all than just doing it with Vergil on his own, but people can’t lame out your DT so you can’t use your level 3 that way… and then you get to abuse DT powered assists until you get your 4 bars for the DHC

It would probably work great with someone like Magneto, DHC Devil Trigger into Shockwave after a hard knockdown for some damage, and then you’ve got a great battery who could kill characters with ease (I’d just be tempted to use Mags level 3 instead lol).

Not very practical over all, but hell, I’ll be pulling Devil Trigger DHC’s for assists already anyways, now I have an auto “BAM, dead character” option.

Exactly, your right about it not being practical, but the most amazing hype moments are never practical! Do it and profit!