That’s not a dumb question at all… I think I made a list a long time ago, can’t remember where I have it now though, or if I posted it here somewhere.
I’ll make a quick list of what I’m sure of:
- Abel:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Adon:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - NO
- Akuma:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (but fails sometimes for some random reason, always works on crouching though)
- Balrog (Boxer):
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (VERY deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - NO (I think)
- Blanka:
cl.HK > cl.MP - NO
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- C. Viper:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (when cancelled into H Danku, one of the hits whiffs strangely enough)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (may not work on crouching)
- Cammy:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Chun Li:
cl.HK > cl.MP - NO
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (if cl.HK counterhits, cr.MP bust be exchanged to cr.MK)
- Cody:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Dee Jay:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES ( think)
- Dhalsim:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (deep only I think)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (I think)
- Dudley:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- E. Honda:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (VERY deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- El Fuerte:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - Uncertain
- Evil Ryu:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (crouching only)
- Fei Long:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (very strict, you should really try to go deep)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Gen:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - NO (may work on crouching, I’m not sure)
- Gouken:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Guile:
cl.HK > cl.MP - NO
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (I think, may NOT work on crouching)
- Guy:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - NO (works on crouching though I think)
- Hakan:
cl.HK > cl.MP - NO
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Ibuki:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (I think)
- Juri:
cl.HK > cl.MP - NO
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Ken
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (only on crouching)
- M. Bison (Dic):
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Makoto:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Oni:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (as reliable as against Akuma I think)
- Rose:
cl.HK > cl.MP - NO
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - NO
KRK xx FADC > H Danku - NO
KRK xx nj.HP - NO
(what a fucker)
- Rufus:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Ryu:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (crouching only)
- Sagat:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (deep only)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Sakura:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (crouching only)
- Seth:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (remember to go under his uppercuts before punishing to get deep enough, his front landing animation pushes you away)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (do same against his uppercuts here)
- T. Hawk:
cl.HK > cl.MP - NO
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Vega (Claw):
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (crouching only) (if cl.HK counterhits, cr.MP bust be exchanged to cr.MK)
- Yang:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Yun:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
- Zangief:
cl.HK > cl.MP - NO
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
Haha I knew more in my head than I thought.
Just as a sidenote, those have NO on the cl.HK > cl.MP combo may acutally work if the opponent’s crouching, but I’m unsure of this.
Yeah that would really come in handy.
thanks!
i’m gonna make a speadsheet of this, I also use cr lk cl lk cr mp gadouken and that is character specific too
Thanks a ton for that Ixion. Also, I tested out all the ones you were unsure on, and one or two others by accident:
- Balrog (Boxer):
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (only seems to hit crouching from a jump-in)
- C. Viper:
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (All instances)
- Dee Jay:
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (KRK whiffs randomly if cl.HK counter hits while he’s standing)
- Dhalsim:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (KRK whiffs if hit crouching)
- El Fuerte:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (cl.mp whiffs crouching)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - (cr.mp whiffs crouching)
- Gen:
cl.HK > cl.MP - YES (Seems to whiff on crouching)
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (cr.mp doesn’t hit crouching unless I start with a jump-in it seems)
- Guile:
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (KRK whiffs crouching)
- Guy:
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES (KRK whiffs crouching)
- Ibuki:
cl.HK > cr.MP xx KRK - YES
Edit: @Ixion_90, yeah, some of this may be wrong. Think I’ve gotten it down now, though. Sorry if there are any more mistakes though.
No wonder Infiltration carries his notes
Hmmm all those “cr.MP whiffs crouching” surprises me much, is that really correct? You sure you didn’t have counter hit on? That would make more sense cuz I’m quite sure I’ve done max damage combo on all of those and if it failed it was because KRK whiffed, not that cr.MP whiffed. Very strange.
EDIT: nickdeline if you want to it would be great if you made a list on what characters cr.LK > cl.LK > cr.MP xx Gadouken works on! I’ve also noticed the Gadouken doesn’t combo on characters like… Ryu and Sakura. Those are the ones I can think of, guess it should be the same against Ken.
Faced Sweden’s best El Fuerte player yesterday online… cl.HK > cr.MP really does make the cr.MP whiff. Wow how that sucks… I know Fuerte’s supposed to be one of Dan’s better matchups but, god… I really feel helpless in it, cuz tons of stuff just whiffs, and regular LK crouch teching by Fuerte helps him avoid both L Dankus and H/M Dankus. That’s a really big handicap. -.- Seriously considering counterpicking this guy with Cammy now.
How much damage is lost by skipping the cl.mp altogether and just doing cl.hk -> krk?
Just a bit, but that’s not the problem really… it’s the fact that you can’t connect Gadouken FADCs after hitting with cl.HK. That feels very debilitating for me at least.
SPLOOOOOSH
Wow very thoroughly made with all those specifications on crouching/standing characters et.c., very well done.
Fun to see those fat Gadouken combos connect on Chun-Li also, will try implementing that in my pressure.
Thanks a bunch
Youre actually the reason I made these videos. I saw the episode on Ultrachen that featured some of youre awesome gameplay. It motivated me to flush out some of his character specific combos. Theres actually a lot more stuff that didnt make the video, I only put the most useful combos in the final cut.
bloop.
I LOVE FAR ST.LP
Seriously tho, I really like it. I wish that his cl.lp would just disappear.
Anyways. You are pumping a lot of good Dan content Tom. Props to you man!
Thanks Tom, I’m honoured. In that video you’re showing some of the things I wanted fixed for Dan… random Dankus whiffing all over crouching opponents. It’s stupid.
Texas you’re also mentioning one of my main buff suggestions for Dan: REMOVAL of cl.LP!
Holy shit I landed the wakeup crossup danku on Akuma 3x in one round with the st mp setup its great
I shamelessly cribbed this concept and ran with it a bit…