Every thread is about feminism to you, going into completely unrelated threads and bringing it up lol. Anita’s poor quality videos really got to you I guess; just don’t go on a shooting spree targeting women is all we ask. Young white men doing that has happened, so obviously it must apply to all of them.
I love all the likes too, like these young, white, well-off, probably libertarian or equivalent men don’t say the same exact things about black people. “Oh god they’re so bad coming into Wendy’s where I work acting all loud and ignorant, paying with my money because they’re living the easy life on welfare, getting their affirmative action because statistics prove they have lower IQs, and I can’t say anything without getting fired because they’re protected by hate crime legislation”. The arguments have the same exact structure, but they pull the “black people don’t equal women” diversion (thanks for informing me of this and making me add another circle to all my Venn diagrams by the way) and all is good. Pretty amazing, like the non white people aligning themselves with the gun nuts who would gas them all within six months if they ever overthrew the federal government.
But it’s not really a big deal because it’s only like 15 of you retards doing it, which is a pretty small number. Unlike you, I have some perspective.
As for your first attempt at being snark, this thread is of course related to feminism because it’s asinine drivel brought on by idiotic girls who know nothing of what privilege actually is and the spineless male remora that they transport, because they are mad because publishers don’t want to severely limit their profits by catering to niche groups. The rest of your post is ramblings not related to video games and sounds incredibly ridiculous, but who knows, maybe your neck of the woods has evil, rich white men that sometimes leave their ivory towers to guffaw at ethnics at… Wendy’s?
I love the confusion, too, as you assume that we hate women in anyway. First and foremost, Anita and her supporters are IDIOTS before they are women, we dislike her because she is an IDIOT, she just happens to be a woman. If I was working at Wendy’s, which I can only assume is about as luxurious as working at McDonalds, I’d get mad at IDIOTIC black people as well as MORONIC white people or VAPID asians.
Alas I can’t help but agree, you do have perspective: one of a crying, hug box supporting manchild that thinks businesses going under by catering to stupid and non profitable demographics is in anyway a better outcome than what we have now. I’d say I hope you come to your senses, but I’m sure whatever menopausal, Crate & Barrel reading harpy that whispered these bullshit lies into your ear did a better job at fucking your mindset up than I can fixing it.
Yeah, I meant going into threads like naked subway man and posting about patriarchy (in a snarky way too). I don’t think that’s the only example either. That’s why I said unrelated. This is a related thread. Bious, your advice is good, but certain people are apparently having nervous breakdowns and can’t contain their retardation in the one or two appropriate threads, complaining about how men are oppressed because there’s a dumb male sitcom character, and I’m a jaded goblin! That’s a pretty good insult though (no snark), I’ll give you that.
Why not just start a divorce/child custody thread, because that’s the only reasonable point ever brought up? This is now just a hey look at this woman doing a bad thing thread, so don’t start telling me I’m off topic.
Snarky? By bringing up the fact that a man could run around naked and assault people and adding, in a satirical fashion, ''PATRIARCHY, LADIES AND GENTS"? No snark involved, you can make light of something without spitting venom at it. If you can’t see the correlation between a guy overpowering a bunch of people, in a rapey fashion, and the common ''THE PATRIARCHY DID THIS" call that people like to turn to, then I’ll have to revoke my backhanded compliment of saying you have perspective.
Why would I need to make a thread about divorce or the skewed rights that come with them? Oh, wait, that’s the only injustice against men that you think is actually perpetrated, despite that last 20-30 page thread showing otherwise. However, this is getting way off topic and will probably get locked, so if people want to keep their soap boxes in the big boy zone, we might wanna keep our discussion about Anita and her ridiculous insinuations.
Because that’s the only reasonable claim you’re making. Maybe you have a point with jail sentences (I can’t remember if that was you or someone else anymore), but I think that’s more of a racial thing. If not a “war on men”, there certainly is a war on black men (and racism is a bigger problem than sexism when they don’t overlap). You know, when I first heard of MRAs, I thought “hey, they might have a point about this whole father’s rights thing.” Then I started reading about how men are oppressed because if they’re ever on a sinking ship, they’d be expected to give up their lifeboat seat to a woman (there’s no mention that nothing will happen if they don’t and nobody would know or care in the confusion). Then about my example above, how men are “pussified” by a few sitcom representations (no mention of the thousands of tv shows and movies with a strong male protagonist-and charismatic, handsome antagonist for that matter). I’m not just dreaming these up; they’re really put forth as serious problems. That’s when a reasonable person starts to realize that these people aren’t reasonable at all, and obviously there’s something more going on than a noble quest for fairness.
So that’s your answer; you should make a thread because it might actually help your cause in the few areas where it’s valid, and hopefully it will be focused enough to not veer into craziness, like this one has at times.
IMO, Anita’s research would’ve been a lot more productive and well received if she tackled WHY this happens and tried to disprove the fact male gamers apparently only want to play as men. Simply calling out tropes is not very productive, as it offers no solution to the apparent problem at hand. About 54% of gamers are men and 46% are women. That doesn’t really tell us or publishers anything other than what can be taken at face value. A better, more informative statistic would have been how much of that 54% of male gamers CARE if their lead character is male or female (or anything else for that matter). Hell, it’d be even more useful if she researched the same for female gamers as well.
With that simple question, I’ve already been more constructive than both of her videos. A REAL statistic of “what percentage of both male and female gamers care about the gender of their lead character” is an actual helpful statistic for publishers, not a simple “there are this many female gamers” statistic.
I hate to derail this thread any further but I just want to make some corrections here.
First off the “lifeboats"example is brought up to show that it is a societal expectation for men to be disposable and that a similar expectation from women to not act self interested is not expected. There is also a consequence via social shaming that oddly enough feminist are the most likely to perpetrate because they will then use examples like this to prove"the patriarchy devalues women and treats them as disposable wombs”. In short this is brought up to debunk the feminist notion that society and the "patriarchy"has it in for women and sees them as less valuable when in fact it’s the exact opposite.
As for TV portrayals…well again it’s brought up to debunk the popular argument that the media is exclusively toxic against only women. It’s similar to Anita talking about women in refrigerators while ignoring men are 90% of the time, the ones most likely to be shown beaten and brutalized on film,tv,video games and comics.
As for everything else, the issues certainly extend well behind simple father rights but getting into that would just continue to derail this discussion. Keeping on topic the bottom line is that Anita is a idiot who is laughing all the way to the bank with her bad trolls.
I dunno I kind of doubt the response would have been more positive if she started speculating on the motives of male gamers. She’d actually be targeting the male gamers themselves instead of the games they enjoy.
Even then, the whole child custody thing is steeped in the outmoded Leave It To Beaver paradigm of women being the nurturer and men being the breadwinner, which is in opposition to feminism. But I feel like I said that already, either here or in another recent thread.
Likewise with the What Would You Do? scenario with the bike: being mollycoddled and given the white knight treatment is only advantageous to women in the same sense as it’s advantageous to be a child and have your parents do stuff for you.
Articles like this make me rage. But I think the insinuation that we’re not allowed to complain about something when there are worst things to complain about is a little off.
By that logic, men aren’t allowed to complain about alimony until the draft is no longer legal.
I didn’t say no one was allowed to complain, but where are these “feminists” priorities? For example I never hear a goddamn thing about female genital mutilation from feminists. I’m sure there are feminists out there talking about it but they are a minority. There is a real need for feminists because there are real problems for females in many parts of the world, but instead of focusing on how women being treated like animals in Islamic countries or getting their clits ripped off so they can stay “pure”, they’d rather spend over a hundred thousand dollars complaining about Lara Croft’s tight shirt.
However, if your goal is to stop female oppression, wouldn’t it be slightly more productive to try and stop it where females are ACTUALLY oppressed. All that money and none of it went to anything useful.
I’d say the problem lies less with feminism, and more with our society’s focus on first world problems. I will completely agree with you in that there are much more severe problems in the world, and one would think that should take precedence. However, people tend to mold their behaviors around what is most salient to them. And as unfortunate as it is, in the minds of many people those atrocities are a world away.
My point is that feminism isn’t unique in this, so directing it at feminists really isn’t a fair statement. The problem is a bit more pervasive and reflective of greater social implications.
The difference being that only feminist act like they are on a crusade to empower the disenfranchised when the reality is they could give a fuck about the people actually suffering from the problems they try to associate themselves. But this is the country that gives only 20% of charity money to the ppl they’re supposed to benefit.
I know a lot of fat chicks were mad that fat princess was made a few years back. Saying something it gives them a bad image. I was like well why dont you just lose some weight and stop being fat