Damsel in Distress: The Discussion (Kickstarter Feminist plays video games)

You’re right, M0urning. Not all women are like that. The less attractive females have to earn their way. :tup:

I’d say women do have a tendency to be more hive mind…even their periods sync up if their around each other!

I am that monolithic entity. Hence my name.

But seriously, women have power fantasies too. And 50 Shades is an example of the female desire to be adored and worshiped. The sex stuff shouldn’t be mistaken as a man dominating a woman, more like a woman facing the taboo of sexual liberation. She likes the kink, even though society tells her she’s supposed to be prim and proper.

At least, that’s my read on the story.

It’s not that she doesn’t read female representation in games (of which there is plenty, though that goes without saying to anybody remotely reasonable) it’s that she likely doesn’t play the games and instead relies on wiki descriptions or plot summaries. I’m sure people will go to her defense and say it isn’t bad to just read a plot summary, despite the money being for the exact opposite course of action, but it’s inherently bad to do that for a video game. Why? Because the most powerful aspect of video game story telling is that it’s interactive. Borderlands 2, despite not having an amazing story, had more to it than ‘this innocent girl begs you to kill her for little reason’. She not only helped you greatly, she betrayed you, then helped you again, saving your life many times. But tunnel vision, anti-sex feminists like Anita aren’t going to see it like that, they don’t see the importance in a female character, they only see the negatives.

So it leads to why people are so confused that people aren’t catering to this braindead demographic and it’s simple: because you can’t cater to something that isn’t happy with anything. Unless they strictly follow the example I made on the last page, they’re still going to get criticism and more than likely not make any more sales than they usually would. So what are these companies getting out of it? The satisfaction of doing something that is constantly done anyway? The title of ‘#1 Feminist Pandering Developer On The Market’? Catering to the worst facet of a gender (or a gender in general) is usually a big mistake, and despite people thinking anything that isn’t a Mary Sue Female Adventure is a sexist power fantasy, women can get the same enjoyment out of modern videogames as men can, especially if they have a larger mental capacity than a child and can do this fantastical thing called SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF.

This thread is still open?

You’d be amazed at how most women share the same mentality in the way that most men share the same mentality. It just has many different forms.

Also what all the idiots (females and feminized males alike) don’t understand is that art (painting, books, movies, videogames) is not meant to imitate real life, but to engulf you with an illusion of an imaginary world.

The whole point of action movies is to NOT have a hero that is a simple fragile human like in real life, but to present him as something better, more glorified, more badass than an actual human. An impossible man dealing with an impossible situation. The same concept goes all the way back to the epic greek poems. If action movies were 100% realistic they would not be fun to watch. And if you have a woman in that movie, why bother with a realistic average looking one when you can cast a super hot one? We know a small minority of women look like that but the whole point is getting the glorified imaginary version of everything, not the realistic one.

And if video games were realistic then they would be boring as shit, like all the German simulator games.

The thing about video games is that all the fun violence is virtual and no one really gets hurt, so it’s like eating candy and never getting fat. You’d think western society would be smart enough to realize how it serves their cultural interests, but they can’t think logically. Football – where people actually do get hurt because the players ram into each other, an act that could get you jailed if you were to do it outside of the football court – is accepted because it’s popular, and videogames – where no one got hurt from playing one – are hated on because they are not as popular. Not at all different from believing in Zeus being ridiculed as insanity but believing in god being ok. Same exact shit only that the latter is more popular, thus making it legit in society’s eyes. It’s that simple.

99.99999% of the people who call themselves “feminists” are dumbfucks who can’t understand even simple concepts as the above, which is why debating with one feels like debating a kindergartener.

Why isn’t there a stereotype about women video game characters in the kitchen?

Also, she needs to get a legal name change to Anita Rimjob

100% of people who start a sentence with “99.99999% of the people who…” are most likely about to say or are in the middle of saying some ignorant shit.

58% of all percentages are made up on the spot, ya’know.

there are two types of feminists:

-chicks who want the right to walk around nude anywhere they want

&

-ugly bulldyke lookin’ bitches who want to suppress women’s sexuality because they’re too insecure

we should be aiming to please the former instead of the latter.

Come on bro… Aren’t we above these type of responses? It’s should be pretty clear that I didn’t run around the world to do a survey among all mankind. It’s a form of expression. If it bothers you that much that you are not able to address the actual content of the post instead of nitpicking on non-issues then replace it with “the vast majority of” or whatever phrase that suits you.

This is the most ironic fucking posts ever in the history of SRK. Because if there is somebody who loves fucking randomly nitpicking a post without giving the points a proper argument, its this nigga right here.

Shotouts to goodm0urning trolling this thread. A long time ago he mentioned that he liked trolling in really subtle ways, I see what he means. Stellar performance.

Pertho, don’t derail the thread, and don’t mistake me for avoiding the issues when what I was doing was avoiding talking to very specific people.

How can you derail the trainwreck I started? In all seriousness there isn’t much to derail as far as Anita’s work is concerned. Her work is poorly researched, thinly evidenced and overall presented in a very lazy manner. It is much closer to feminist readings of literary works than the pseudo indictment of video game insensibility she made it out to seem. Honestly, I could take all the games she has cited thus far and make a series of videos on how the video game industry is reinforcing stereotypes of men as heroes and how this affects the psyche of young players as they fail to live up to expectations. Niggas gonna be like “woah, we do we always have to be the one saving women? I just wanna play some hopscotch and do some hair.” I could add sections on how most men aren’t rewarded for intellectual work and that puzzles have gotten easier lately; implying that using brawn to solve problems is far more valuable than using brains.

BRB, starting a Kickstarter.

Think there was a TED talk where she introduces her self as “A cultural critic, a woman and a feminist,” leaving gaps in between each term to get a reaction out of the crowd. If anything she deserves credit for exposing the boffunery that academia has become. That can never be said enough.

I disagree with you calling one of the most fun threads of 2013 SRK a “trainwreck”. :slight_smile:

I actually implore you to follow through on that idea. I would love to see how some people react to those counter videos

A few days ago, I had to deal with one of those “feminized males” while I was playing Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. One of the sets that I like to wear is a cowgirl outfit. I love the way it looks and it has good stats on it. Hardly anyone makes a comment on it or gives a fuck for the matter about this set. Yet, I started playing and after we finished the quest, the dude complained that my armor was “disgustingly repulsive”. He said that the designers were nothing but pervy old men. I told him that design of the armor didn’t matter to me and I was perfectly fine. He went so far as to say, “What if I nuked Korea? Or Mars.” I was like, “Nuking =/= Game Design”. Like, seriously.

Fuckin’ pansy ass motherfucker. I quit his party cause his bullshit was too much to deal with. I knew it was gonna be an issue when he said he found it annoying that people said, “Good job” after killing a monster.

Nawl, I’ve been writing entirely too much sprawling New Yorker shit in the big controversy type threads… mainly for obsessive compulsive reasons. Anything I’d say to you, I’ve probably already said to someone not nearly as congenial as yourself. Sorry.

I’M DONE BEING YOUR MONKEY, SRK. YOU HEAR ME? GM’S STEPPING OFF.

But hey, here’sthe TV Tropes page on feminism. Written by people with short attention spans, for people with short attention spans. Sounds good.

He’s gay.

And possibly has some kind of weird aphasia that makes him mix up two completely unrelated issues when he talks.

Hard thing to go through for someone who’s already dealing with anti-homosexual stigma. We should pity him.

I truly doubt that, u just wish u could be it