Daigo vs Jwong

would that have made any difference?

analysis

okay i’ve been reading through the thread and there is a lot of discussion about if daigo had some secret plot to make this all happen like a movie or if it was truly genuine.

i wasn’t there at evo and i haven’t seen any other daigo matches from the event so i will have to believe it when people say that he constantly taunts after supers and just controls the match. that’s totally understandable because that’s what most players do when they know that they can get an easy win on an opponent. however, in high level tournament play this usually isn’t the case. any mistake can lead to a peace out.

what i say is that daigo was indeed looking for something flashy in the end (but not exactly as it happened because he would have taken a HUGE risk purposely taking that final hit to make his meter at 1%) while jwong was clouded with “i just gotta get a hit and i get the chip for the win” so he wasn’t paying attention to the possibility that daigo could in fact parry his entire super. however, jwong had the advantage of the mixup because daigo was swaying back and forth on the defensive (sort’ve taunting jwong with his own style) and had pretty much no life. jwong couldn’t have jumped in because he would be shoryukened (but not totally dead yet). that could have opened up for a reset or some ground game. but i guess jwong caught a glimpse of daigo’s sway pattern (and with the backup support of the possibility that daigo missed a parry or red parry) and tried to catch him on a block motion. but he soon realized that it wasn’t going to be so easy and daigo took the win.

now there is no guarantee that this is what happened, just my opinion. whatever did happen, it is still a true demonstration of skill and the pressures of high level play by both players. every match counts!

vpt_whatup…for the most part I agree. It wasnt as if Diago was trying to go from some dramtic win. At least not to the fullest extent that it did happen. (this is all speculation because none of us is in his head) But like you said in high level tourny play you dont take chances with the wrong person.

Because I have the whole match I will say that when you see Diago sort of swaying back and forth most say that it is his way of trying to bait Chuns super out. The thinking being that if you are in the frame of advancing, then parrying the super is just that much easier. (ie if you parry a move that is coming at you with the first part of a DP motion…tapping forward, then the you dont have to repeat the motion for the DP, just the FB motion for the rest of it to come out)

Diago is still The Beast from the east. But Jwo definately pushed him to the limits. IMO

Daigo tries to make shows??? Are we still talking about one of Japan’s most quietest players? Daigo clearly goes for a win not a show.

God how many ignorant people are out there? :confused:

Ha that is excatly the opposite of what most people would have said a few months ago. I think we have a chance in all games, the older games because we still have experienced players, and the newer games because the gameplay is a bit simpler (save mvc2, which japan hasn’t competed well in to begin with).

No. In the first USA vs Japan Daigo went out of his way to finish all of his 3s matches with a shoryuken. He almost lost one because of it.

Apoc.

You’re on crack. You’ve beaten my Vega and Rog once. I’ve beaten your cheap ass Sim 4 times and with 2 different characters:p

Damn, this shiet is turning into the battle of the Jasons.

Apoc.

Let me guess, when the time comes to play for $$, you won’t have any $$$, right?

LOL.

Ignorant? Please, didn’t you not play in 3S, cuz you were late to the tournament, real fuckin reliable.

Someone correct me if im wrong.

What the fuck, are you Pyro’s cock sheath?
"5 star, hold this dick. Hold this shit, BITCH!"
You’re the same dumbass who thought someone from SRK was sending you a virus because you PWNED them, only to realize that you’re a fucking idiot and no one gives two shits about you enough to send you a virus.

You’re the same dumbass that tried to correct someone else’s grammar, and made the SAME FUCKING MISTAKE in a later post. You’re the recipe for bitch. So you’re good in 3s. Guess what? No one outside of Fags Fucking Asses gives a shit. You rock 3s, yet third grade English owns you. Good job. Nice to see you’ve got something to fall back on when that whole willsuckdickforfood.com thing falls through.

Including FFA? You’re not part of the US, remember?

Oh, I’m so hurt. Just jumble some cuss words in a sentence–fantastic. I could care less if I suck, I don’t even play competitively.

i don’t like it when Wilson and 5 Star argue. for every post that Wilson and 5 Star talk negatively towards each other, i will strangle a kitten or club a babie seal.

5 Star’s response would probably be something like this… just exclude the stuff in paranthesis.

(yansoma) u dont kno fucking shit. stfu u goddamn scrub. (first you dont kno the history between FF and wilson, which dates over 5 years. second,) you suck, just stfu, your presense is not even needed in this world.

let me tell you something. YOU FUCKING SUCK AT 3S. got it? god you suck, why do u even fucking try to play? you suck. and yes you are right, you are not in this conversation, so get the fuck out moron.

:smiley:

randommoron, i told u not to quote me u idiot. do u have an obsession with me? is that why u quote all my lines? u wanna be just like me? hey its ok i understand.

i don’t think i’ve defended pyro once, all i did was tell all you scrubs to stfu, including you, you fucking scrub. why do u suck so bad at 3s? tell me something, what area are u from? i want to see how bad u suck, can u record a tape of you playing and then mail it to me so i can watch it and laugh at how bad you are? and then take a piss on it. i’d rather not talk about 3rd grade english, thats just a dumb topic, i got an A btw. theres no reason for me to list my educational accomplishments, i would put u to shame u dumb fuck.

this coming from the same guy who sucked last week, but still sucks just as bad this week? just stfu idiot. god you moron, u really like bringing up the same thing again dont u? ok so i made a grammatical mistake, do u need to repeat it to me again this week? do i repeat something about you everyweek? do u need me to? starting from this day and every week, i will remind you how much u suck and u can remind me of my grammatical mistakes. k thnx. be happy, i’m going to spend 3 minutes on you everyweek, try not to get cum in your eye.

and wow you’re the same dumbass that made an acronym out of FFA, u are too witty for i. good job, u must feel like u just discovered fire, u primitive shit. i’ll just shutup now, u own me and all of FFA with that.

that had me lol-ing…nice one.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH so manyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Yes OG 3s players are the truth tell em omni

lol… that sounds like me. Finishing matches off with a jab or short to cause my opponent to keel over… sometimes kicking them across the screen while they are falling over or just taunting after the lp/lk.

Finally saw the vid. Daigo baited him. Yes Daigo was sandbagging, but consider that he was already up a game, and felt confident that he could have taken a third, had it come to it.

Regarding all of this stuff about how Justin is USA’s best hope against Japan…um, FFA aside, anyone remember Evo last year, where Ricky Ortiz beat Daigo? But it didn’t count, because it was judgement? And then after the stick broke 8 times during their match and after 100,000 minutes of not playing, they played a final game, and decided to play one final game after they’d played the final round of the final match in their set, and THEN Daigo won? Sounds more impressive than Daigo beating Wong 2-0, and baiting, and susequently parrying his SAII.

IMO.

Justin is obviously very good at the game, but let’s not turn him into Jesus.

Go Hsien.