Except Mad Cow disease is not a virus, its a corrupted protein.
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Well the thing is that unless you’re a billionaire, we’re all on the same boat. There’s a lot of projections about how bad things can get, but we got way more medicine and knowledge than we did back when the Black Plague was around. It really is about the stuff Reticently mentioned above you and then not freaking out. Realistically if you don’t have a farm that’s completely self sustainable, you’re going to deal with the virus one way or another. So just chill, buy some extra food if you’re in a hot spot area (cali, washington in the US) and don’t go fully nuts.
We all gotta play ball and do better than the government is doing for us. People who are out there emptying out stores out of toilet paper like lunatics are gonna feel real bad when we come out of the other end of this.
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Didn’t say it was a virus, point was it’s zoonotic. Anisakiasis isn’t a virus either, it’s a nematode.
I could mention cow pox, which is a virus. Or bovine to human anthrax transmission, which isn’t a virus but either, but still virulent.
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But viruses normaly have a species barrier they have to overcome.
Covid-19 happen as we can carry the bat virus but typically dont get infected and a human coronvavirus combined with a bat virus.
Corrupted Proteins have no barrier, and there no vaccine as it’s just a self replicating molecule
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The whole point of his post was to point out all the other illnesses we get from animals.
Why are you being obtuse about this?
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I don’t know of an approved vaccine against a prion disease, but there’s no technical reason you couldn’t have one. Labs are working on them.
Becuase how mad cow works is diffrent that everything else
All the viruses come from two viruses for two diffrent species combining. Usually from eatting shit we shouldn’t. Or if the animal die of illness dont eat it.
Mad cow came about becuase some idiot keep on feeding cows beef.
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Today I learned: biphasic is just a virus’s way of saying, “This isn’t even my final form!!”
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It’s not different from everything else, there are other prion diseases.
You get kuru from eating bats, for example (like I said, bad idea to eat them!).
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If we’re going to have millions infected at this rate, why aren’t we seeing this in places where it’s spreading the worst?
This is a wack shit I hate.
Don’t overreact and panic, but I’m going spit a bunch of numbers and tell you how fucked the human population is going to be despite the actual numbers being no where near the doomsday scenario.
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Pertho
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I went over this in the Lounge but that’s fine. There’s a lot of important issues going on with this situation:
- It spreads asymptomatically.
- People with mild illnesses won’t go to the doctor.
- There is a limited amount of testing kits.
- Previous test kits have had a high degree of unreliability (giving false positives and false negatives).
Now she covers some more stuff in that twitter thread, the thing is 24 tweets wrong and should’ve made a post to tell people to click on it and keep reading.
The real number of infected people we aren’t going to know ever. As of right now we aren’t testing everybody and we have no way to test everybody. That means that there will always be infected people whom you have not identified out there. But as people get infected and spread the infection, cases are going to start showing up at doctor’s offices and hospitals to get the ball rolling.
Because the spread is exponential ( one person can infect 2-3 people, those people will infect 2 to 3 people each), we have an idea of how it can grow under the best conditions (this is also why she mentions that the numbers could be wrong and still be a shitload of people). But that viral spread is happening regardless of whether you’ve identified the cases and confirmed them.
Spread has already been happening in the US since January. The moment Wuhan tourists started leaving the city for other places, you have to assume that there is a chance that all of the places they visited were infected. That means that we’re in a race against the clock until we have the same situation that China, Iran, South Korea and Italy are facing. Those situations would quickly overburden the system.
China lied about its numbers and a bunch of people fell for the lie. China always had more infected than the number confirmed. The US has way more infected than the number confirmed etc. because the people who approach you are the ones that usually are in the most need of medical services.
“Actual Numbers” isn’t actual numbers. “Actual numbers” is just the number of patients which went to the hospital who tested positive for the virus. Meanwhile you’ll have a people who are infected going about their lives until they recover by themselves or need medical assistance. The infectiousness of the disease and ability to put so many people under a need for critical care is the big problem. Doesn’t matter if we get to confirm everybody who has it, the situation she describes can easily happen whether or not people get tested.
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I read the entire thread. We could probably double or triple China’s reported numbers(which has been spreading since December or earlier) and it still wouldn’t line up with this math.
I don’t like how peeps go from we don’t anything yet to dropping these type of numbers with no real basis.
The fear mongering, overreacting and downplaying all need to just stfu.
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Hence why I troll this thread.
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What do you mean no real basis? They literally ran a simulation on this not too long ago:
The disease starts in pig farms in Brazil, quietly and slowly at first, but then it starts to spread more rapidly in healthcare settings. When it starts to spread efficiently from person to person in the low-income, densely packed neighborhoods of some of the megacities in South America, the epidemic explodes. It is first exported by air travel to Portugal, the United States, and China and then to many other countries. Although at first some countries are able to control it, it continues to spread and be reintroduced, and eventually no country can maintain control.
There is no possibility of a vaccine being available in the first year. There is a fictional antiviral drug that can help the sick but not significantly limit spread of the disease.
Since the whole human population is susceptible, during the initial months of the pandemic, the cumulative number of cases increases exponentially, doubling every week. And as the cases and deaths accumulate, the economic and societal consequences become increasingly severe.
Similarly she is going off of some basic numbers in diseases:
What’s going on right now isn’t that out of the realm of possibility. Hell there is an epidemic guide the CDC had back in 07 that listed a disease spreading with a 2% Case Fatality Rate being a category 5 pandemic (the highest tier in the thing).
Here you go, its on page 7. Whole thing is about influenza but talks about Nonpharmaceutical interventions:
That’s because they literally shut down the vast majority of their country to stop the spread of it. For some reason you keep missing the point of all of it. Didn’t take Italy long to from barely nothing to a clusterfuck where they have to quarantine a bunch of provinces to stop the spread. At the moment the US isn’t doing much to proactively find cases and quarantine them. That leaves the US in a similar timeline with early China and Italy. Its either be proactive or expect there to be similar quarantines in various west coast cities to try and slow down the spread.
If this makes it to the homeless population in some of the larger California cities, then you’ll end up with a an enormous problem.
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Pertho
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This thread isn’t for that. Stop posting in it.
Since you’ve admitted that you’re here to just fuck it up, you keep posting and we’re gonna have issues.
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Volt
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Meh, buncha numbers. I can’t even fact check this because I can’t do anything more complex than basic multiplications.
The real smart people are calculating that shit on Plague Inc…
Oh shit.
Jokes aside, it’s unreal how people are wilding and spreading fake news about the CoVid.
A big news corp here started running an Anti-Fake News section and one of the busted fake news was a vid of a self-taught chemist saying that hand sanitizers don’t have enough alcohol to kill CoVid and that you should wash your hands with vinegar.
Dude got blown up on national television by the biggest news corp on the country and the police is on his ass for not having a license. 
I love my country.
If y’all want, I can check if some particularly sus info was already covered and do a quick translation so you can fact check.
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Pertho
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Well a big issue is gonna be people using products properly. You’re supposed to cover your hands in hand sanitizer and let it air dry. With Lysol, which my city has mostly raided too, you’re also suppoed to let sit for a while to kill certain germs and viruses.
Also the stuff I want to avoid in this thread. I cant help everybody with info but I cant help SRKers out.
Also learned yesterday some terrible ass i formation about my city’s preparedness. Only one negative pressure room between all the hospitals. RIP life.
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