Controversial Akuma

Classic Fighting Games Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
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I conceded the third five because you insisted that you only had $10. Rather than think “Oh, I’m right and everybody’s wrong,” I took the course of “Fine, let’s try the argument with a compromise.” Because $10 in fives is 48 tokens, and 40 tokens in singles. That’s 40 games. What happened to 20-30? Lies! What a shame! It was a Saturday. If I had an underlying motive, I would’ve called you out from the beginning. Nah, I just tried to correct David.

If you think you’re the only person getting nicknames, I’m sorry to burst your bubble–you’re not.

You should really try not resorting to arguments like “Lies!” and “You’re just weak and disrespectful.”

Being hated seems to be your primary source of attention judging from how you present yourself. I’m starting to think you love it.

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Whatever man.

You win.

–tsukaihatasu

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Just out of plain curiosity, how long did it take Ricky to pile up 100+? Im guessing 4 hrs.

Ricky lives in the EC now or soemthing? He’s constantly hanging out with empire the way I hear it.

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this thread is getting gay!!! stick to strategy for the love of TEH!! GOD!!! still no one has answered my questiona about the oro match up.

and no offense tsukaihatasu but please stop bragging, cause it does seem like u strive for attention and shit, i mean u’ve said so many times in this thread about all the r demons u land, ur win streaks etc… Please dog, keep it strategy based. I know people have came at u but everyone should just chill. take it to yalls thread in discussion and matchmaking or something… and also lest we forget how much strategy u said u keep secret, if it was secret why did u lose 30 times to someone, couldn’t u figure sum’n out on him, or did he figure ur secrets out… i mean i know ricky would pwn me for free but please stop the bragging and putting down of akuma in the same thread. i’m not trying to flame/put u down or whatever but i’m just sick of all the shit talking that goes on on srk. it is retarted…

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btw, i wouldn’t buy his “secret” strats…ppl who say that usually don’t have jack shit…and about akuma’s rushdown demon flips, you definetly CAN’T uppercut that shit without guessing or trading. Early divekicks trade with uppercuts in Akuma’s favor, and if they are blocked, they are not like regular jumpins where you can throw them, the Demonflip has too much blockstun…PLUS Akuma has the easiest anti-throw option in the game…rh hurricane beats throws and is 95% of the time safe on block…sooo…good luck trying to throw a Demonflip divekick…tons and TONS of other shit that Akuma has to fuck up defensive attempts when he’s rushing down…but point is, you can’t just SRK that shit without knowing the consequences…

ok more here…if you try to throw an early blocked Demonflip Divekick, you will eat a close fierce which comes out very fast (shoto close fierces have always been counter hit beasts), and if akuma cancelled into another Demonflip Divekick, good luck trying to uppercut it now that you’re in hitstun…

if you tried to jumpaway, that is prolly the smartest thing you can do, and there is a good chance that a shoto jumpback rh will beat a Demonflip, but there is no followup, and no knockdown, so it’s still neutral for either opponent…which is good for Akuma…

but neway…Demonflips are goooood…the best rushdown tool Akuma has…it doesn’t even matter if the Akuma is semi-predictable with them, most characters have a hardtime dealing with them even if they know it’s coming…

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No offense Geese, but that last post was nonsense. Demon flip dive kick does NOT trade with DP(usually) and if they block the DF they can usually throw you for free afterwards because Akuma can be thrown out of st.FP AND st.MK. He can even be thrown out of tatsu when its started too close. Now if you dive from a farther distance, you have NO chance of trading with DP. It always wins. It ALWAYS loses to EX DP by the way.

To SDouble, the Ricky 100+ happened a very long time ago(1yr+) and since then he has only been able to get short streaks on me at best. Part of the reason I lost is because he completely shutdown DF, with DP(+2nd j.DP) BTW, and he shutdown RD with j.DP and ex.DP. You guys seem to think Ricky is just some average player, but Ricky is actually one of the top 3 in the tournament circuit. We were playing Ken vs Akuma, and since Ricky was better than me at the time, and I was naive about Akuma’s DF+RD, and Ken >>> Akuma in 3rd strike, I lost a lot. But I did better the very next time I played him because I learned my lesson about being unnecessarily aggressive and unsafe.

BTW, SDouble you ARE flaming(insulting) again. If you look at the previous posts, I am simply responding to insults. I guess insulting people who disagree with you is the modus operandi of the majority of posters here, but, if you notice, I didn’t say a single thing about my skills before the insults began.

Insulting me is most likely NOT the way to get information out of me. I fight a pretty decent Oro(SAIII) at Berkeley all the time and I win consistently(80-90%). So I COULD say something(Geese), but I think I’m done here.

Good luck people,
–tsukaihatasu

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:lol:

Chun-Li can s. jab her way out of demon flip set-ups, so there’s no reason to think why you can’t EX Uppercut out of it.

:rock:

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sorry man, i just get pissed when people are stubborn, b/c i’m stubborn lol. but come on please don’t come into a forum talkinga about win streaks and how akuma sucks and all ur “secrets” when this is a strategy forum not a bragging forum. I can tell u have knowledge, i’m sorry to have offended, but please just share or get out, don’t basically say u won’t share by saying “secrets” and some other things u said just seemed out of context. like the whole tokens argument and all that shiz, let’s just learn in here aight…Yes i did flame, sorry man.

My bad, please let’s get back to strategy, sorry for getting angry, i just want to learn and i hate wasting my time and yours with insults and all this win streak/secret/ stuff. Let’s just share and discuss, and prosper in 3s.

Sorry man,
Scott

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Uh what? So it doesn’t trade with DP’s…USUALLY? wtf does that mean? Do you understand the concept of a counter hit? They are in blockstun from the divekick, they try to throw, and they eat a counter hit close fierce (although 3s doesn’t register counter hits like Alpha3 and CVS2 does, they still exist). And btw, I’m pretty damn sure Akuma CAN’T be thrown out of a rh Hurricane even if it done pointblank…we’re not talking about Ken or Ryu’s Hurricane kicks here…Akuma’s is OTG first frame. Why do you think Urien has so much trouble with repeated rh Hurricanes? If he could throw Akuma out of his Hurricane, don’t you think Urien would be doing that more often? And finally, about the ALWAYS losing…I’ve traded with Ken’s fierce SRK before…don’t say ALWAYS because you are not a God and so there is no way you have tested every possible scenario.

kal el:

jabs beating jumpin attacks has NOTHING to do with priority…it’s just the fact that they are coming out before the hit animation begins…similar to how some players use a jab as anti-air…try using a jab as anti-air against an early Shoto rh…it will get mauled…if the Divekick is getting beat by early Chun jab, then Akuma is not doing it early enough.

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If demonflip is that special air to ground kick, if misaimed and mistimed you can srk and even kara srk akuma without trading. If it’s high you’d have to srk early or parry. It’s what I beat cpu on 99% of the time.

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Just give up, you can’t beat theoryfighter! I bet that guy’s top tier at gamefaqs.

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gamefaqs is where all the champions learn lol…Strategy is so much better than this gutter trash. can some one help me out with the oro match up when he’s using yagou dami(spelling?)

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hold on…i read up to pg 2…then i stopped…why?

this reminds me two ppl

  1. srwilson
  2. masterakuma

all claim to be the best
all avoid sharing their “100%” or "elite combos"
and worst of all,
all claim to be the unbeatable king of ___ region.

just one question, you said in first post, akuma is best as a defensive style(not turtle)

then on page two, you said, “to all akuma, rushdown and good luck”

so, rushdown=defensive according to you?

retards are like a race. they come and come and come. never ending flow of retards.

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This thread has gotten ridiculous. Talk is cheap, which is why my challenge still stands. :slight_smile:

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Sorry, but thegeese is right on this one. SRKs do trade with divekicks if the akuma player times it correctly. And there’s no way you can throw him during his hurricane kick, he’s airborne from frame 1.

Sdouble: Remember since you’re Akuma you always have the added option of reversal teleport out of Yagyou setups. Stay out of Oro’s RH poking range since the stun on that will make you cry. If you’re not careful Oro can destroy you by simply using his mp, mk and rh to poke you to death. He can duck your ground hurricane so don’t overabuse it, but air-to-air hurricane is great for getting around double jump rh bs. You own him at throw range so kara-throw the crap outa him. If you’re desperate, do wakeup KKZ when he tries to pull Yagyou on you for crazy results.

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You say that like it’s a bad thing haha :karate:

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I thought I was finished, but some clarifications:

First to 300ZX:

“to all akuma, rushdown and good luck”

This is called SARCASM. I guess YOU call planet Retard ‘home’.

To (the) Geese:

The word usually actually translates to ‘most of the time’. The DF->DK only trades with late uppercuts(they do the uppercut too late). If they do the uppercut at the right time(read: Anytime BEFORE the dive kick is hitting them) Akuma gets hit…with no trade.

To the children saying/implying I got my knowledge from Gamefaqs:

I don’t believe in FAQS. I think they detract from the game experience and only garbage chumps RELY on them. I guess if the game is very old, it’s acceptable --otherwise it just shows weakness. I have NEVER relied on/used FAQS to learn moves or strategies, I earned my knowledge the old-fashioned way, by playing at the arcade. I guess that seems unbelievable to the youngins here, who can’t even remember that until 1994, the web was all text-only Lynx-based browsers and gamefaqs.com didn’t even exist.

To cyanideAssassin:

I thought I accepted your challenge before(?). I just haven’t had time to go to SVGL, but as soon as I have a chance I will be there and YOU will be the first person to know I’m coming. If you’re in a hurry to face me, I can break away from my work for a bit and see you at Berkeley.

Finally, it is finished. I have been leaving sarcastic comments all over the place, but since the wit it is lost on some of you(300zx- the distinguished gentleman from planet retard), I will spell out what I have been saying indirectly:

You are free to play however you want to play, and it’s best that you use whatever strategy earns you the most wins. You can use rushdown if you like, but it will lead to you getting crushed by veteran players.

My aim with this thread was simply to hear different views about the best style of play with Akuma; I have been playing with Akuma for years(and years), and it’s rare to talk or run into another successful Akuma. Instead, people flooded this thread with ulblisht(yes: BS) about how Akuma has free and safe rushdown capability. I personally feel it is irresponsible to give struggling and/or potentially new players wrong information about playing, which could lead to formation of bad habits, large and demoralizing losses, and a negative view of Akuma in general.

If you know ahead of time what to expect with Akuma, you have a better chance of developing a style you can consistently win with. If you just believe that you can rushdown and go crazy with Akuma and win, you are bound to be disappointed and discouraged when you find yourself taking heavy losses, and will probably end up dropping the character.

Bye now vets/children/idiots/Retardians,
–tsukaihatasu

Oh, BTW Akuma certainly CAN be thrown out of the tatsumaki, as this move has 1-2 frames of startup(depending on button) where Akuma is still on the ground. Chun’s kara(and others) can grab Akuma even though you saw the first frames and heard the sound of the move’s startup(not theoretical, this happens to me frequently). Incidentally, this is also why Akuma can do tatsu->RD(this is real, I have done it many times).

And before you respond to this part of the post, please do your homework BEFORE you call me a liar. Thanks.

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No hurry man, my post was more directed towards everyone else in this thread. It seems everyones jumping all over you with all these arguments, and have been for what, like 2 weeks now?:lol:
I feel the only way to really know if somthing works or not is to face the person in a match, you can only tell so much from an online conversation.

Thats all I meant by that, Ive been pretty busy myself lately and have only been to SVGL like twice in the last 2 weeks. I might drive up to Bearcade sometime in the next month or so, just to check it out, Ill let you know if Im coming up. Otherwise Ill tty whenever youve got the time to come down.
Later. :tup:

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Tastumaki > Rd?? You Can Do That!?!?!?!?

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Yes.

–tsukaihatasu