Uh Mega Metagross is really that much of a problem? I mean if you don’t have a check for it then yeah it’ll wreck your shit. But he does have solid checks. Like I use Mega Scizor to check him. None of his attacks 2hko Scizor. Some barely even 3hko. So just free sword dance boost then roost off the damage. Swampert checks him as well. Not even Mega is needed. Just normal swampert with some atk EV investments. Scarfed Landorus after Goss has been soften up a lil.
Really? Because Fini has been putting in plenty of work for me as is. Gonna give her Nature’s madness so she can check stall better.
It’s a combination of things. He’s not dumb like Blaziken or Mega Lucario who use whoever they want as set up and then sweep entire teams.
He’s the best pokemon in the tier and the controlling force. He’s incredibly powerful with more natural bulk than ferrothorn and a great speed tier and coverage. He also has that chance to raise his attack 1 stage with meteor mash. That fucking boost ruins all the counter metagame and you basically have to play around and pray he doesnt make the right call. Ive run scarf heatran to deal with it and i hope they dont click hammer arm or eq for the call out.
Does that mean he’s banworthy? Maybe. I think it’s more of a case for stale metagame fears. I like the meta more with pheromosa being gone. It’s much easier to handle threats now than when pheromosa was tearing it up. it could be the same thing. It now has more competition for the mega slot with medicham and mawile’s release so there’s that. I think greninja is more of a problem cause that straight destroys any hazard removal there is and puts huge pressure on team building more so than i think metagross does.
I will not advocate a ban here as i dont feel we play enough games here to determine it’s potential brokenness and would rather wait until at least mega manectric, mega lopunny, and mega swampert are released to truly test it. Smogon can do what it wants idc
It’s no wonder Capcpom is allowed to get away with DLC shadiness… Motherfuckers intentionally get rid of options in Pokemon, when the game gives you everything basically for free. At least you don’t have to pay to win in Pokemon.
What gets me is last gen Smogoners were finding every reason to keep Char-X around even with all the complaints, showing clear cut favoritism. All the Megas haven’t been introduced and the metagame on a whole is still in its “terrible twos” phase.
I wonder if this is a generational shift in the attitude of competitive gamers on a whole or just smogoners?
It’s just that shitty place. Anyone that was even somewhat reasonable has long since left after the scandals with mods harassing underaged female members and other such nonsense. Their userbase is incredibly tiny compared to what it was in Gens 3 and 4, which is hilarious considering how much bigger Pokémon is now due to GO and Sun/Moon.
They are literally an echo chamber devoid of dissenting opinions.
They literally had a server overload from too many battles occurring. I dont even want to imagine what would have happened to shoddy battle if such thing occurred.
Even with the plus one atk boost he still fails to 3 hko physical defensive Mega Scizor. And i don’t think he 3hko physical def Swampert either. Now Pheramosa. yeah she was dumb and had to go. That is the only pokemon I had complaints about this gen. Like that bitch, and Tapu lele ran with her making priority not an option against her. Only answer was a tough defensive wall. And even the toughest of defensive walls couldn’t just shrug off a High Jump kick with that much power behind it
Don’t use the thing that can stand up to it, because there are things that can beat it… There are counters to the counter… Wow, didn’t see that coming… Is this not the definition of a metagame?
Whipped up a uber team real quick and won like 5 games straight lol. Lugia takes hits like a planet lol. only at 50% health and took a hit from Mega Salamence frustratrion. And it’s sp def invested lol. And normal E speed Arceus puts in work.
New/old Megastones y’all! Mega Tyranitar might have a niche in the metagame being ridiculously bulky and Mega Manectric thanks to the speed changes upon Mega evolving makes it an even better check to Megagross with its nice Intimidate+Overheat combo. The sad irony is that this excellent check may be without a niche in few weeks because “reasons”. Sigh