he doesn’t like money from films and merchandise apparently lololol
“We have no idea.” - All Marvel employees past and present. 
I’m genuinely curious why some here are willing to go so far as to say, “he’s a shitty person.” Are people upset that Alan Moore isn’t a fan of DC and Marvel comics?
I remember when his niece showed him the Saturday Morning Watchmen. He didn’t speak to her for a week after that
How the hell did Howard Mackie get dragged into this? He isn’t some big name or writer that is talked about as being one of the best. He simply had solid runs on popular titles during the 90s.
Dunno I just had a flashback of that fucking Spider-Man clone saga and spit out his name in disgust.
Clone Saga isn’t Mackie’s fault.
Dude is a douche who can never be appeased, like there noting you can do to make him happy.
He hates how his comics get adapted, but when offered a paid role of being an consultant and being on the writing staff he upright refuses.
Moore is a jerk to everyone, he a douche to his fans, he makes his coworkers lives a living hell, he even would shit on his own family, and he thinks being British makes him entitled to be so.
Fuck Moore.
I am not even going to go into his personal political and religious views (thats a topic for a different thread) , although finding out about his personal views I can see how he took the direction he did for V for Vendetta.
Mackie’s more “famous” for the Mackie Reboot in Spider-Man. It was Spider-Man after Mary Jane was supposedly killed in an airplane explosion making Spider-Man single again. It was dreadful. Worse than Brand New Day. At least early Brand New Day had some charm to it in the beginning, but the multiple writers and repeating of the same beats killed it quick. The Mackie Reboot however was DOA.
The New Clone Saga Mackie did with DeFalco a few years ago wasn’t bad. No one for a second believes it was the original intent for the 90s Clone Saga as advertised. Everyone knows it was really a stunt to make Spider-Man single again. But the new mini was fun.
And Todd Nuack pencils! He really needs more Marvel work. He mostly does PR and ads for Marvel these days. Follow him on Facebook if you can. He tosses up great artwork daily.
So I got the entire Lee/Ditko run of Amazing Spider-Man to re-read. I haven’t read that stuff in years but I guess Spider-Man Homecoming got me wanting to check out that material again. I got them via the Marvel Epic Collection so it’s nice to have them in color. These will do until I finally decided to get the first Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus.
Speaking of Spider-Man, I haven’t really touched the main line books since the atrocity that is One More Day. Brand New Day was not for me and One Moment in Time was more Quesada fan wankery. But Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows sounds like it would be something I would enjoy.
Oh, I’m also gonna be checking out the Spidey series via TPBs.
While I’m on the subject of the web slinger…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4EuOMiKSQ
Yeah, I am not feeling this new Spider-Man cartoon.
Lee/Ditko run was great. The book changed with John Romita Sr. All of a sudden Spider-Man became a cool kid instead of Ditko’s weird oddly dressed outsider. It felt like a natural progression to me though.
I don’t have numbers but I’m hearing that Renew Your Vows is outselling Amazing Spider-Man now. Crazy how Marvel thinks people don’t want the Spider-Marriage. Ultimately we just want a well written book and Spider-Man characters written in character. Something ASM hasn’t given us in a long time.
Not crazy about the new cartoon but at least Drake Bell is not voicing Spider-Man. He sounds like Johnny Test there. I absolutely could not stand Drake Bell’s little monkey girl scream. He does it in every episode of Ultimate Spider-Man now. So freaking bad.
Howard Mackie is probably a nice guy but his comics were wack. He may not be solely responsible for the Clone Saga, but it’s not like he ever wrote anything that was halfway decent, either.
Not knowing Alan Moore personally, and having never even met him in passing, I’ll have to take your word that he’s a jerk to everyone, he’s a douche to his fans, and would shit on his own family. That seems a bit extreme to me, but if that’s what he really does to the people who love him, then yeah, he’s a despicable piece of human filth.
However, regarding how he hates how his comics are adapted, I believe his issue has more to do with ownership and creators’ right more than anything. I remember he said he liked how Justice League Unlimited did an adaptation of For the Man Who Has Everything. He’s washed his hands of Watchmen, and DC, due to how DC swindled him out of it. So I can’t really blame him for not wanting to be involved in any of the movies that DC has made based on his works. It’s not about the money at some point - it’s about principles. I respect that.
But I’m glad I’m not related to him - I don’t want his excrement anywhere near me.
The problem being with out Moore complains he was swindled, he tried to paint himself into another Jack Kirby. His story was never the case.
Jack Kirby only wanted recognition and his own fair slice of the Pie. It took his family to sue after his death for his estate to see any of that money.
Moore is no Kirby, not by a mile, not by a thousand miles.
Moore got more than enough Recognition, and he was offered money time and time again (and Moore refused). Moore’s principles lose out as he wanted special-snow flake artistic integrity on top of everything else.
Moore issue is not that he didn’t get recognition for his work and offered money, he never wanted his works adapted in the first place. Moore felt his work could only exist in it’s original medium in print, not even legally bought digital copies, and specially not adapted to TV and Film.
Moore knew while he worked with other publishers that they own the property not him, they not just include his name on the work, they headline his name. Books sold because it said “BY ALAN MORE” on the cover more than the characters on the cover. Directors who was using Moore’s work and was doing a film adaption practically begged Moore to come and help as a creative consultant and Moore basically spat in their faces.
Moore renounced magazines like Wizards who held him in high regards and his work on a pedestal because the magazines liked and encourage film adaptions. The one panel Moore did appear on for a comics co. he ripped the Magazine in half in rage.
Moore hasn’t wanted money, though, as you point out - he just wants people to be principled in their dealings. ABC Comics, Miracleman/Marvelman, and the Watchmen movie are recent examples. If it benefitted people he liked, he’d generally roll with things until such time as somebody violated some principle at which point he left in a huff.
Spat in their faces? I’m pretty sure he just wanted to be left to his own devices. Given that people spoke for him out of context and incorrectly, it seems understandable that he wants nothing to do with the movie peoples.
What I dislike about Moore is he doesn’t seem to like it when writers use his work for their stories. It’s like he doesn’t understand how continuity is suppose to work
http://comicsalliance.com/alan-moore-puts-on-red-lantern-ring-takes-a-potshot-at-blackes/
Preppy is right. And I think Frank Miller is the guy who ripped up a Wizard magazine at a convention panel - or at least, he’s the more famous case of it that I’ve heard of. Also, it was a Wizard magazine. Not exactly a font of analytical journalism.
Moore’s case isn’t exactly the same as Kirby’s case, but it’s still been a matter of being treated fairly and with respect to his contributions. I believe a lot of his dissatisfaction with DC begins with Watchmen. He was swindled out of owning Watchmen. He didn’t create the foundation of an entire company’s universe, but I don’t know how anyone can think Moore and Gibbons got exactly what they deserved for Watchmen. His “complaints” seem justified.
All the movie stuff you mentioned, Darksakul, is sort of just more justification for him in his mind how he’s not being treated well. Again, he’s not interested in money. You say he spat in their faces when they offered him money to attach his name to (for example) the V for Vendetta movie. But based on his history with DC (and Warner), why would he want to cooperate? It doesn’t sound unwarranted for him to not want to participate in celebrating the movie adaptations of his works. You said that his principles began to lose out as he wanted “snowflake” artistic integrity. But artistic integrity is one of his principles. He would have compromised if he had taken the money and allowed the conglomerate to use his name to promote the movie. Moore had no interest in his comics being adapted into film, and is that so bad? I don’t think he was actively trying to stop these productions from being made because he had no legal recourse to block their existence, but he didn’t want to participate. If anything, he was the one minding his own business until the movie folks dragged him into the muck.
As for Moore’s comments regarding Blackest Night (and his other rants against mainstream comics), he was/is ignorant. Not that I would ever defend the artistic validity or quality of Blackest Night, but it’s obvious he doesn’t read mainstream superhero comics. Saying what he said earned him a lot of ire that he probably deserved. His hyperbolic rants are outrageous.
Eight years ago, he called DC’s writers “raccoons” who dig through his trash. Then again, I’ve seen people on the Internet say harsher things, like saying a guy would shit on his own family. 
Yeah, it was Frank Miller who tore up the Wizard magazine on-stage way long ago:
I’ve heard that Frank Miller has been in a dark bad place for a while now, so while I loathe the guy’s work now I’m happy to not think about him. Sin City was great at the time but now it’s just painful.
I liked this quote from Hawkingbird’s article:
As far as I can recall, he generally doesn’t read other people’s comics, so when you hear him posturing it’s usually just him being cantankerous. His interviews with Predrag have been pretty good over time.
Can anyone recommend me a good read? Last good comic book I read was Ring of Nibelung and Fables.
Classic: whatever happened to the man of tomorrow?
Current: secret empire (main series)
Avoid: civil war II