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-Nice, those things were the ones that i had in mind to check out in the lab…i’ll wait for the video to check them up-

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Here’s the video. Sorry for the crappy editing. CPU was put onto No Guard. Like I stated above. If you put the cpu on autoguard and they block the TAC you are put in a favorable position to either go low or go for a ground grab or tag in your character for an instant overhead. This combo TAC also works midscreen I just didn’t have enough time to record because I made this video really quickly. O and the reason this works is because the charged H in sword mode already uses up your ground bounce so that when you do the sword dive move it makes the opponent reset since the ground bounce was already used in the beginning of the combo.
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Hey Pertho, how about you refer to my earlier post about not being a dick? There is so much information covered in here it is a shame you were only able to selectively read the parts about throw resets as opposed to everything else in attempts to make me feel stupid, in which you failed both at insulting me and at improving your overall knowledge. Really though, your not a genius because you not only got rid of this amazing game, but you also feel the need to flame comments pointlessly like a 15 year old kid with a computer and nothing better in life to spend his time on.

EDIT: Floating a character to TAC with damage scale reset = Combo reset / Unintended gameplay mechanic = Glitch.

Man for a self-proclaimed genius you sure are bad at interpretations!
Have a good day anyway, hope you cheer up!

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Dude this isn’t all that good because 99% of people are going to be holding block. You are doing this in a corner with a character that can’t teleport. This means that you don’t have any l/r mixups to go with it.

First thing you do in SRK is lurk and not post shit. This should’ve gone into the regular amaterasu thread. Only reason I’m posting is because Adelheid has put in a fuckload of work making useful videos. She is also a very good '11 poster. So yeah, Stark > this thread.

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-Haha, it was obvious that you were in favor of Stark…anyways. Phill, that looks great, i was right that using glaive stab was the way meant for this to be used and of course, ammy doesn’t have teleports but for example, if they block, i have Dorm’s dark hole to lock them down and mix them with a high-low, which is ammy’s strongest mixup, maybe we can work around that even more, time to go to the lab to experiment, good job…-

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So what do you do if they roll?

Not even out of the corner, rolling into the corner would also screw up your timing on following it up.

(I know this because we explored this stuff sixteen months ago and everyone stopped using it very quickly)

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Hmm true just tested this out in training mode and rolling does mess up w/ the timing like sometimes it hits and sometimes it doesn’t. What if they are pressing a TAC direction. Wouldn’t they get hit then?

Edit well actually in the corner only a roll out of the corner messes up w/ the timing

Second Edit: Actually the reset still works in the corner whether they front or back roll because after the TAC if you immediately raw tag your character then they get hit w/ the overhead.

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Yo phillipro that was sooooo sick, I’m looking forward to seeing what new things you will come up with in the future. Good work!

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Thank you sir. I just recorded a few more videos. The good thing about the downward exchange is also that it causes a long enough hard knockdown state so if you have a character that can combo from a self otg state such as phoenix, viper, akuma (maybe shuma?) then it works even if you miss the launcher when bringing in your character.

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Here’s some more stuff.
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Just showing some mixups that you can do if someone blocks the TAC reset since your put in a favorable position if it’s blocked. You can go for a grab or tick grab setup or go for a low w/ ammy who has a 3 frame short attack. You can also go for an instant overhead setup by holding down the assist button and having your partner raw tag and hit the opponent.

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What Phillpro is posting is actually useful, unlike stopping a combo in mid-air (in the corner of all places) and expecting the opponent to be mashing something. That’s Day -3 stuff; wouldn’t work on anyone with common sense. Dante and Vergil (among others) can swat her for a free combo.

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Thanks for all the critiquing on the video I posted. Hopefully people can come up w/ more ideas to improve on this maybe involving the whip stance or if people can come up and discuss mind games that ammy players can use for this. I’ll definitely be using these new techniques at CEO next week. Hopefully some new stuff is developed so I can put it to practice. Now my week long training begins :slight_smile:

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Phillpro. What you have just suggested is trying to defeat block by doing something that is extremely punishable on block and generally offers very minimal reward.

I really hope I don’t have to explain why you should not go for this.

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Refer to prior post about not being a dick.

You know there are two different kind of people In this world, those who strive to prove things right and those who strive to prove wrong. If you ever have kids, I urge you to let your husband raise them (I’m now under the impression that your a girl) because you have a terrible mentality and you will most certainly ruin their lives with your negative attitude.

Phillipro, I used some of your ideas in online matches last night and they were a big success. Be proud of what your accomplishing brudda!

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Are you going to evo, SPHC?

Because I am always up for money matches, if you want to prove things right.

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and now this thread is interesting

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Haha no way man, I’m nowhere near good at this game enough to compete at such a high level event. Nor am I financially stable enough to just leave work for a week and pay all the expenses to even go and watch (tho it has been a dream of mine for many years to attend). In my defense there was not one point in this entire thread that I came even close to saying anything that could be interperted as boasting that I was better than you, you just like to start confrontations and such online because you need drama to stay busy because you probably don’t have much going on in your real life… I get it. I apologize again for letting the FGC know about this because it really seems to bother you.

Oh well, try to cheer up champ!

And good luck at EVO, even though your a real asshole on here I would be super stoked to see An Amaterasu player make it far at this years tournament.

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I’m sorry.

I have a lot of experience with fighting games, and… Everything my intuition tells me is that the tactics you were trying to give were subpar. At first I was… Honestly trying to help, saying that this was not a strong tactic and generally a waste in the face of finishing combos and more… traditional sorts of resets. But I was bullheaded about it; I haven’t been feeling well and have not been feeling as… Pleasant as normal. What you did though, is sort of say “No I’m pretty sure you’re wrong” despite freely admitting that you are not a strong player.

Now, I understand it feels good to contribute, to help people. I love helping people, which is why I post so much to my youtube channel. Although, I haven’t posted to my youtube channel for awhile. Actually, I have been in the hospital for the past thirteen days, which has rather negatively affected my mood. (I don’t want to get into what happened to me.) And, when I saw what I perceived as disrespect… I was rude. I think that some of the things that I said were justified, but my general demeanor was undignified, to say the least.

So, I want to apologize. I’m normally nicer than this. I try to be nicer than this. If your tech works for you at the level you’re at, well, I don’t think it’d be helpful for me, but it’s probably helpful for your scene if for no other reason than to teach them not to fall for that sort of thing. So, it’s good. It’s good, and I’ve been a jerk.

I’m not out to make enemies. This post might be too little, too late. But I feel bad about my actions and want to make reparations.

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It’s all good friend for I’m not quick to make enemies, especially w people I don’t even know via. the Internet. The thing that really bothered me was your negativity right off the bat, it was like you were making fun of a baby for trying to crawl because walking is obviously better yakno? I look up to many of the more well known contribuers out there, hell I have learned a good bit from what you have provided in the past, and given I had an opportunity to showcase a glitch and possible ways to abuse it I was just excited to give something back to the community I have taken so much from in the past.

I hope you won’t continue to be offended while I do intend to keep this thread alive. I have worked on a good bit of new strategy and it would be pointless unless I allowed everybody the chance to “take it or leave it” so to speak.

It’s alllllll good, hakuna matata!

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I agree with stark, this isn’t at all useful in a normal match against opponents that actually understand why they get hit by this “reset”.

There is actually one use for this “tech”, it is really gimmicky and not something that is at all limited to ammy. It will only work once in a lifetime and only against people that actually mash the tac counter (which no one should be doing anyway). Also its only use is against phoenix teams or against people that try to tech forward while trying to counter side exchanges. In that regard this might be regarded as a very weak version of magnetos sj.l reset in the courner.

How it works is, you need to have so much hitstunscaling in your combo, that when you side exchange the enemy will still be in hitstun during the exchange flash (this is the part where the game pauses for a very brief moment) after which the 15 frames of tech window start. What you want is that your opponent actually flips out of your combo just before these 15 frames start (so during the flash it looks like the opponent is in hitstun, but just before the techwindow starts he flips out of the combo). What happens is, your opponent can’t break the sideexchange (as it is not part of the combo anymore due to hitstunscaling) but can just block it. Phoenix players that don’t want to eat a sideexchange might get hit by this if they mash on s to break the exchange, thus losing a bar in the process.

The reason why this only works if the opponent is mashing: If the opponent only presses s once to break the exchange, the s will be registered while the opponent is in the “flipping out”-animation and no air s will actually come out, which lets the opponent block freely. In very heated situations or in situations where a phx player is about to lose her 5 bars phx and you don’t have xf, this might work (in this scenario its also pretty much a no brainer to go for this gamble, as you probably will lose the game anyway if you let phx get dark.) But then again, there are much better and superior techs out there against phx and how to steal a bar from her…